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Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1?

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First post2019-12-31 20:08 -0800
Last post2020-01-21 16:44 +0100
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  Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2019-12-31 20:08 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-12-31 23:50 -0500
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 03:28 -0800
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 03:49 -0800
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:26 +0100
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 04:34 -0800
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 13:56 +0100
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 05:04 -0800
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:18 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 13:21 +0000
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:26 +0100
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 13:19 +0000
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 14:24 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 14:56 +0000
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 16:06 +0100
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-01 15:44 +0000
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 16:54 +0100
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 08:07 -0800
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-01 14:19 +0000
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-01 15:28 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2020-01-02 11:06 +0000
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 10:19 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-02 13:33 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-02 13:55 +0000
          Raku (Was: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-02 14:48 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-02 15:03 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-02 06:18 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? m.nasim85@gmail.com - 2020-01-02 01:26 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2020-01-05 19:32 +0000
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-05 12:25 -0800
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? F Russell <fr@random.info> - 2020-01-07 00:33 +0000
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 01:11 +0000
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 22:32 -0800
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 10:08 +0000
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:24 -0800
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:30 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:42 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 12:47 -0800
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 21:20 +0000
                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-07 21:53 +0000
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:01 -0800
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:22 -0800
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 22:31 +0000
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-08 00:27 -0800
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-08 08:13 -0800
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:33 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:38 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 06:49 -0800
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 16:38 +0000
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:31 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:44 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 19:54 +0100
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-11 10:24 -0800
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 14:23 -0800
                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> - 2020-01-21 04:21 -0800
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-21 05:06 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 10:59 -0800
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 19:21 +0000
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 11:36 -0800
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@delq.com> - 2020-01-06 18:02 -0800
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-07 10:55 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-06 23:34 -0500
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 22:30 -0800
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2020-01-05 16:30 -0500
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 02:07 -0800
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-06 07:57 -0800
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:03 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:11 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-01-07 10:09 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 11:12 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 11:09 +0000
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 13:45 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 13:06 +0000
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 14:14 +0100
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-07 16:27 +0000
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 17:53 +0100
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 08:55 -0800
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-07 05:19 -0800
        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 19:11 +0100
          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-11 19:09 +0000
            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-11 20:18 +0100
              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-11 20:00 +0000
                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 07:02 +0100
                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 00:32 -0800
                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:38 +0100
                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 01:09 -0800
                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 10:48 +0100
                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 01:57 -0800
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 11:02 +0100
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:09 -0800
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:45 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:54 -0800
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:13 +0100
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:35 -0800
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:38 +0100
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:44 -0800
                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:49 +0100
                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:59 -0800
                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 14:03 +0100
                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 05:21 -0800
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 14:35 +0100
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 05:46 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 15:11 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 06:41 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 16:15 +0100
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:11 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:19 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:42 +0100
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:40 +0100
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:04 -0800
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:05 +0100
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:13 -0800
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:16 +0100
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:25 -0800
                                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:26 +0100
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:21 -0800
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:25 +0100
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 09:31 -0800
                                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:33 +0100
                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 13:21 +0000
                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 09:16 +0100
                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 04:28 -0800
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 13:36 +0100
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2020-01-13 04:39 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 15:22 +0100
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-13 05:10 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 15:10 +0100
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-01-13 07:31 -0800
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 16:34 +0100
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:59 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 16:32 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 17:17 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:13 +0100
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:19 -0800
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:22 +0100
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:29 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:34 +0100
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:40 -0800
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 18:42 +0100
                                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:56 -0800
                                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 19:19 +0100
                                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 10:21 -0800
                                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 19:25 +0100
                                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 10:46 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 08:02 -0800
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 01:04 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 01:25 -0800
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 06:37 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-15 10:49 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 01:15 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2020-02-04 01:48 -0800
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 02:29 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 03:05 -0800
                                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 04:07 -0800
                                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 04:59 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 08:51 -0800
                                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 15:19 +0100
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:47 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 06:51 -0800
                                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 09:35 -0800
                                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-13 21:48 +0100
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 12:54 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-13 13:38 -0800
                                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.arthur.mclean@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:30 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:40 -0800
                                                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 02:47 -0800
                                                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 03:52 -0800
                                                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-14 04:00 -0800
                                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2020-01-14 14:20 +0100
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:21 -0800
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:50 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 04:14 -0800
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 14:23 +0000
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 16:16 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 08:13 -0800
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 17:43 +0100
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 17:42 +0000
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 18:43 +0100
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 18:04 +0000
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 19:31 +0100
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 21:18 +0000
                                          Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:53 -0800
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 19:36 +0100
                                        Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bart <bc@freeuk.com> - 2020-01-12 20:56 +0000
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 10:04 -0800
                            Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 02:05 -0800
                              Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:43 +0100
                                Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:46 -0800
                                  Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 12:51 +0100
                                    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 03:58 -0800
                                      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-12 13:14 +0100
      Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2020-01-07 13:03 +0000
    Re: Do "C" arrays start a 0 or 1? Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-01-21 16:44 +0100

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#148943

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-11 20:18 +0100
Message-ID<qvd71k$d87$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148942
> A good effort with C++ but my language still deals with this stuff 
> effortlessly and more intuitively.

C++ has a unbeatable relation of abstraction and performance. There is
no language that is comparable in this. My window-class will be fully
optimized away by the compiler if you don't use .at().
And with this adapter-class you might multiple windows to the same
random-access structure. That's just good for confusion as well as
your languages ability to have different array base-indices.

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#148944

FromBart <bc@freeuk.com>
Date2020-01-11 20:00 +0000
Message-ID<LPpSF.16223$OZ3.3198@fx28.am4>
In reply to#148943
On 11/01/2020 19:18, Bonita Montero wrote:
>> A good effort with C++ but my language still deals with this stuff 
>> effortlessly and more intuitively.
> 
> C++ has a unbeatable relation of abstraction and performance.

Maybe. Once you've gotten around the performance hit of having to first 
generate all that boilerplate code, then having to optimise it all away, 
each time you compile.

  There is
> no language that is comparable in this. My window-class will be fully
> optimized away by the compiler if you don't use .at().
> And with this adapter-class you might multiple windows to the same
> random-access structure.


Multiple views are common and often used to pass sub-arrays to 
functions. Silly example:

     proc start=
         []int A=(10,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,90,100)

         fred(A[8..10], A[1..5], A[2..7])
     end

     proc fred(slice[]int x,y,z)=
         printslice(x)
         printslice(y)
         printslice(z)
     end

     proc printslice(slice[]int a)=
         forall x in a do
             println x
         od
         println
     end

Where's the confusion? Slices are just views.

(And although not implemented for this low-level slice, I have a version 
where if the underlying vector is destroyed while slices are still 
active, the slices are still intact. I've no idea if your C++ can deal 
with that.)

---------------------------------------------
output:

80
90
100

10
20
30
40
50

20
30
40
50
60
70

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#148946

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 07:02 +0100
Message-ID<qvecp1$dq7$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148944
> Maybe. Once you've gotten around the performance hit of having to first generate all that boilerplate code, then having to optimise it all away, each time you compile.

In C++ you've usually to write not much boilerplate-code;
in contrast to C.

> Multiple views are common and often used to pass sub-arrays to 
> functions. Silly example:

No, thats neither "common" nor "often".


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#148947

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 00:32 -0800
Message-ID<026e3197-af7f-49c8-9d90-f2b8b4ad4838@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148946
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 07:02:18 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > Maybe. Once you've gotten around the performance hit of having to first generate all that boilerplate code, then having to optimise it all away, each time you compile.
> 
> In C++ you've usually to write not much boilerplate-code;
> in contrast to C.
> 

it seems you define your own style of boilerplate bulshit 

in normal c youre unable to write boilerplate as c is very sobstantial

(there are maybe some slight possibilities ow wriing boilerplate related to headers, macros and maybe some slight boilerplate related to some constructs (like switch or pointer expressions)

(headers are boilerplate becouse natural relation is 1 header 41 library and this populating of 1 header 4 all projects that use this library is natural boilerplate

in standard c (by what i call it, c not focused on defining macros and headers)
youre unable to write boilerplate as all is substantial

> > Multiple views are common and often used to pass sub-arrays to 
> > functions. Silly example:
> 
> No, thats neither "common" nor "often".

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#148948

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 09:38 +0100
Message-ID<qveltm$761$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148947
>> In C++ you've usually to write not much boilerplate-code;
>> in contrast to C.

> it seems you define your own style of boilerplate bulshit

You don't understand what boilerplate-code is.
Boilerplate code is code repeated over and over.
The example I've given doesn't imply any boilerplate code.

> in normal c youre unable to write boilerplate as c is very sobstantial

In C you write a lot of boilerplate code because it is
the language with almost the least amount of features.

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#148949

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 01:09 -0800
Message-ID<00985284-cf04-4b50-919e-ae4eaa89fedc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148948
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 09:38:23 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> >> In C++ you've usually to write not much boilerplate-code;
> >> in contrast to C.
> 
> > it seems you define your own style of boilerplate bulshit
> 
> You don't understand what boilerplate-code is.
> Boilerplate code is code repeated over and over.
> The example I've given doesn't imply any boilerplate code.
> 
> > in normal c youre unable to write boilerplate as c is very sobstantial
> 
> In C you write a lot of boilerplate code because it is
> the language with almost the least amount of features.

lol, i wrote a lot of c and didnt noticed i write boilerplate..c gies you substsantionaly concise ways of xpresion and you use it

if iwould like to repeat something i write function to it

[note people here (so to say about them where a number of not-able-to-read trolls snd simpleheads live here too) know c (where seems liek you dont know it) and i guess listening false things you postulete but not prove and which is non conformant to their reality may make you become received as a sorta another dick hodgin..isnt it a shame?]

BTW

as to c being step over asm and c++ being greater step over c: lul no

i recently write back a bit in asm and ehen i must write things liek that

    // man_ox = mouse_down_x/frame_size_x * man_lx + man_ox - man_lx/2

    mov  eax (mouse_down_x)
    cvt si2ss x1 eax
    mov  eax green_fire.frame_size_x
    mov  ebx (eax)

    cvt si2ss x2 ebx

    div ss x1 x2
    mul ss x1 (man_lx)
    add ss x1 (man_ox)

    mov ss x2 (man_lx)
    mov eax -2
    cvt si2ss x3 eax
    div ss x2 x3

    add ss x1 x2
    mov ss (man_ox) x1

[(note his asm code is bad but i not yet thinked on details of writing math expresions in asembly today)]

i see how c is great,its really damn hard easier to think on programs in c and how much easier it is to build program and how more power you get (its liek 15 times more i could say)

(this exampel above is not all also typesafety etc is worth mentioning etc, though this above is probably most impressive..typesafety in turn is good but in practice when writing in asm i dont encounter that problems)

(also portability is worth mentioning)

those are epic great advances of turning from asm 2 c, the other part of the way i mean another advance from c to something other that would be such improvement is not existant for sure not in oop and not in c++

(i personally found hovevers osme real adance maybe comparable from advance form asm2c comparable though i think maybe half weaker compared to 1 of thiose mentioned advanes - it is
1) patterns and routines related to manage chunk and chunks (my sicl.c (small ICL, small initial chunk library) anmed also as sickle.c) that should be comon and also with a bit of built in support 
language

(also may note  resizable array realization (and syntax like tab.size+=10) (+ improving amny details in c) )

also note i belive one can make maybe some real step further (step of adance of real scale compared to mentioned asm2c migration) when using hipermodularity and 
micromodules-techniques , but yet im yet not yet quite sure how this advance can feel when do practical coding)

where c++ is not an evolution but degeneration and c++ is a cobol of last 30 years

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#148950

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 10:48 +0100
Message-ID<qveq1s$s2i$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148949
> lol, i wrote a lot of c and didnt noticed i write boilerplate..c gies you substsantionaly concise ways of xpresion and you use it


In C you have to write a lot of boilerplate-code because the language
provides almost nothing. Look at the C++-containers; C provides not
even the simplest form of it, a string, as a natve type.

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#148951

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 01:57 -0800
Message-ID<28a3f23e-1f8f-4f2c-b433-41b088f5779f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148950
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 10:48:53 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > lol, i wrote a lot of c and didnt noticed i write boilerplate..c gies you substsantionaly concise ways of xpresion and you use it
> 
> 
> In C you have to write a lot of boilerplate-code because the language
> provides almost nothing. Look at the C++-containers; C provides not
> even the simplest form of it, a string, as a natve type.

are you noob enough to not know libraries provide things? (you simply -l"libname")

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#148952

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 11:02 +0100
Message-ID<qveqsi$oqo$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148951
>> In C you have to write a lot of boilerplate-code because the language
>> provides almost nothing. Look at the C++-containers; C provides not
>> even the simplest form of it, a string, as a natve type.

> are you noob enough to not know libraries provide things? (you simply -l"libname")

There's no library that helps handling strings like a native type
in C because C doesn't provide the base facilties like templates
and operator-overloading.
And look at even more advanced STL-classes like unordered_map.
You simply say std::unordered_map<key, value> and thereby specialize
unordered_map for certain types. Having the same performance through
specialization (boilerplate-code is magnitudes more common) in C is
at least a whole day's work.

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#148954

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 02:09 -0800
Message-ID<352be219-7a54-4ade-8ad3-0281775430bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148952
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 11:03:06 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> >> In C you have to write a lot of boilerplate-code because the language
> >> provides almost nothing. Look at the C++-containers; C provides not
> >> even the simplest form of it, a string, as a natve type.
> 
> > are you noob enough to not know libraries provide things? (you simply -l"libname")
> 
> There's no library that helps handling strings like a native type
> in C because C doesn't provide the base facilties like templates
> and operator-overloading.
> And look at even more advanced STL-classes like unordered_map.
> You simply say std::unordered_map<key, value> and thereby specialize
> unordered_map for certain types. Having the same performance through
> specialization (boilerplate-code is magnitudes more common) in C is
> at least a whole day's work.

there is a lot of libraries in c.. c gies interfae and depends what you mean natie, i wouldnt call c++ crap string as native

for text i use my own library but it simple means you can take othere people .c or .dll library and use it

so getting back to it where is that boilerplate exactly? 

note im asking not becouse i want to mock yu (though you talking bulshit and lies is annoying and harmful) but becouse there is no such boilerplate as far as i know youre talking pure bulshit

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#148959

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 12:45 +0100
Message-ID<qvf0s8$a0p$2@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148954
> there is a lot of libraries in c.. c gies interfae and depends what you mean natie, i wouldnt call c++ crap string as native

No, there are not libraries which specialize themselfes for certain
types in C like in C++.

> so getting back to it where is that boilerplate exactly?

I'm pretty sure you have almost no programming-experience.

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#148963

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 03:54 -0800
Message-ID<bc95bcb5-69ce-4e93-a218-914a212ac838@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148959
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 12:45:19 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > there is a lot of libraries in c.. c gies interfae and depends what you mean natie, i wouldnt call c++ crap string as native
> 
> No, there are not libraries which specialize themselfes for certain
> types in C like in C++.
> 
> > so getting back to it where is that boilerplate exactly?
> 
> I'm pretty sure you have almost no programming-experience.

if you sure false things that defines you as an idiot (in near threads you for example may find when i wrote on my own x86 assembl;er that i wrote from scratch or my own library for 2d/3d games thru winapi blitter (named Green Fire) 

well i get no choice to think (see) that - person that pretty sure belives in obviously false things is idiot by definition


as to specialized afair i personally dont encountered a need to use that kind libraries on anything else than strongs so far

if i would need somethng for other types i would add it..its not a problem and unlike c++ rap when you 'specialize' code you get a big opportunity to polish it for separate cases nicely

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#148965

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 13:13 +0100
Message-ID<qvf2ha$5d5$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148963
> as to specialized afair i personally dont encountered a need to use that kind libraries on anything else than strongs so far

Then you don't understand generic programming and you shouldn't make any
dumb statements about that.

> if i would need somethng for other types i would add it..its not a problem and unlike c++ rap when you 'specialize' code you get a big opportunity to polish it for separate cases nicely

In C you have to specialize every algorithm for every datatype if you
want maximum performance or you have to stick with callbacks like with
sort(), which is slow.

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#148968

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 04:35 -0800
Message-ID<d93bb8e6-6fb9-4962-907c-08bf4c8d5e9c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148965
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 13:13:38 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > as to specialized afair i personally dont encountered a need to use that kind libraries on anything else than strongs so far
> 
> Then you don't understand generic programming and you shouldn't make any
> dumb statements about that.
> 
> > if i would need somethng for other types i would add it..its not a problem and unlike c++ rap when you 'specialize' code you get a big opportunity to polish it for separate cases nicely
> 
> In C you have to specialize every algorithm for every datatype if you
> want maximum performance or you have to stick with callbacks like with
> sort(), which is slow.

god damn ths noobs topic i seen 20 years ago and answered 20 years ago.. i see generation of idiots still sticking here...still so disgusting

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#148969

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 13:38 +0100
Message-ID<qvf413$2ns$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148968
>> In C you have to specialize every algorithm for every datatype if you
>> want maximum performance or you have to stick with callbacks like with
>> sort(), which is slow.

> god damn ths noobs topic i seen 20 years ago and answered 20 years ago.. i see generation of idiots still sticking here...still so disgusting

sort is just a good example of the advantages of generic programming.
There are far more advanced exampes. It's a lot of work in C to do the
same you can have with a few lines of code in C++.

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#148970

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 04:44 -0800
Message-ID<04685ccb-62cf-40d9-bc5a-7ecbc18d917f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148968
besides where is the bloat? even staying to quicksort or algorithms liek that (like milions of c codes would be quicksort which itself is 15 lines or so)

is it in c implementation in ibrary is it in optimistation-crafted version in your c code?

i dont expect the answer watching the quality of this dumbhead reveletions

the answer bloat is in your head [and possibly in your c++ which is used to define idiotic bloated wrappers over pure substantial c things]

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#148971

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 13:49 +0100
Message-ID<qvf4k1$17i$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148970
> besides where is the bloat? ...

The bloat is in C, where you have to write magnitudes
more code for the  same effect.

> the answer bloat is in your head [and possibly in your c++ which is used to define idiotic bloated wrappers over pure substantial c things]

You don't like C++ because of your irrational taste.

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#148972

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 04:59 -0800
Message-ID<2c99d6ae-ae5e-4d83-99a8-8cad758df41e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148971
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 13:49:14 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > besides where is the bloat? ...
> 
> The bloat is in C, where you have to write magnitudes
> more code for the  same effect.
> 
> > the answer bloat is in your head [and possibly in your c++ which is used to define idiotic bloated wrappers over pure substantial c things]
> 
> You don't like C++ because of your irrational taste.

i dont like when people are stupid and i dont like when people lie - dumbheds reality is wast and probably i should not interfere

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#148973

FromBonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 14:03 +0100
Message-ID<qvf5ev$tjm$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#148972
> i dont like when people are stupid and i dont like when people lie - dumbheds reality is wast and probably i should not interfere

You neither have the expertise,
nor the impartiality to compare C and C++.

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#148975

Fromfir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>
Date2020-01-12 05:21 -0800
Message-ID<e90d176b-e040-43e8-8b95-3fef734be954@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#148973
W dniu niedziela, 12 stycznia 2020 14:03:36 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> > i dont like when people are stupid and i dont like when people lie - dumbheds reality is wast and probably i should not interfere
> 
> You neither have the expertise,
> nor the impartiality to compare C and C++.

listen to old c master, you wont deserve to learn c you will not - so its quite honest, you wasted enough of my time

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