Re: Hello World in Russian

From	Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c++
Subject	Re: Hello World in Russian
Date	2022-01-31 16:36 +0000
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2022 16:11:23 GMT
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
>Muttley@dastardlyhq.com writes:
>>On Sun, 30 Jan 2022 12:12:33 +0000
>>Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> wrote:
>>>"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> My opinion is that C (and hence also C++) text mode is an abomination
>>>> that should never have been introduced, and that in addition, given
>>>> that it was introduced, it's designed in a stupid way with the data
>>>> conversion applied underneath the buffer level so that one can't get a
>>>> clear view of the raw data.
>>>>
>>>> As an example, the design means that Unix `cat` can't be faithfully
>>>> implemented in Windows using only standard C or C++, which IMO is
>>>> extreme.
>>>
>>>I assume you are talking about the cases where cat defaults to reading
>>>stdin and/or writing stdout, If so, it could be argued that it's not the
>>>fault of the C and C++ standards, but more the fault of the
>>>implementations not providing a useful freopen function.
>>
>>I see no reason why cat would need freopen because it probably uses low level
>>I/O anyway and doesn't care where its stdin is coming from if it has to read
>>from it.
>
>cat(1) uses read(2)/write(2)

As I suspected. You don't want the overhead of the higher level I/O functions
for system utilities.

 unless -v is specified, in which case it uses
>getc(3).
>
>int
>cat(fi, fname)
>FILE *fi;
>char *fname;
>{

Its been a while since I've seen K&R style C in the wild.

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Hello World in Russian Joseph Hesse <joeh@gmail.com> - 2022-01-29 05:51 +0200
  Re: Hello World in Russian James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-28 23:27 -0500
    Re: Hello World in Russian Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-29 10:21 +0000
  Re: Hello World in Russian Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-28 22:42 -0800
    Re: Hello World in Russian David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-29 13:01 +0100
      Re: Hello World in Russian "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-29 14:12 +0100
        Re: Hello World in Russian David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2022-01-29 17:34 +0100
      Re: Hello World in Russian James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-30 14:17 -0500
        Re: Hello World in Russian Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-30 20:17 -0800
  Re: Hello World in Russian "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-29 11:48 +0100
    Re: Hello World in Russian Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-01-29 17:39 +0200
      Re: Hello World in Russian "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-30 09:18 +0100
        Re: Hello World in Russian Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-01-30 12:12 +0000
          Re: Hello World in Russian "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-30 14:02 +0100
            Re: Hello World in Russian Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-01-30 14:45 +0000
              Re: Hello World in Russian "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-30 21:53 +0100
                Re: Hello World in Russian Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-01-30 21:00 +0000
            Re: Hello World in Russian James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2022-01-30 14:02 -0500
          Re: Hello World in Russian Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-31 10:23 +0000
            Re: Hello World in Russian scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-01-31 16:11 +0000
              Re: Hello World in Russian Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-31 16:36 +0000
              Re: Hello World in Russian Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-01-31 20:20 +0200
            Re: Hello World in Russian Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-01-31 16:12 +0000
              Re: Hello World in Russian Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2022-01-31 16:39 +0000
                Re: Hello World in Russian Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2022-01-31 23:47 +0000
        Re: Hello World in Russian Manfred <noname@add.invalid> - 2022-01-31 16:45 +0100
        Re: Hello World in Russian Andrey Tarasevich <andreytarasevich@hotmail.com> - 2022-01-31 10:10 -0800
          Re: Hello World in Russian "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> - 2022-01-31 19:25 +0100
      Re: Hello World in Russian Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2022-01-30 12:09 +0100
        Re: Hello World in Russian Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-01-30 14:26 +0200
          Re: Hello World in Russian Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-01-30 08:59 -0500
            Re: Hello World in Russian Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2022-01-30 18:21 +0200
              Re: Hello World in Russian Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2022-01-30 12:56 -0500
                Re: Hello World in Russian Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-02-07 21:05 +0000

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