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Re: "Brian Kernigan speaks. 83 and still teaching."

From 🇵🇱Jacek Marcin Jaworski🇵🇱 <jaworski1978@adres.pl>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: "Brian Kernigan speaks. 83 and still teaching."
Date 2025-09-04 18:33 +0200
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W dniu 4.09.2025 o 04:30, Kaz Kylheku pisze:
>>>> I liked his reply to the question about the current state of software
>>>> today:
>>>>
>>>> "A lot of it sucks!  Unfortunately, it's all too true."
>>> Yes, and a large part of it because it is written in C.
>> Nonsense.
>>
>> It sucks due to design, not implementation.
> The concepts of "design" and "implementation" are tidy abstractions in the
> study of software engineering.
> 
> IN the practice of software engineering they are not separable.

BS! Behind every genius prog. or tool is some brilliant idea. That is 
the first step of design. All engineering art require detailed and aware 
design. If some body program in other way, then result can be one: piece 
of c* .

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"Brian Kernigan speaks. 83 and still teaching." Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-09-01 23:39 -0500
  Re: "Brian Kernigan speaks. 83 and still teaching." Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-09-02 20:34 -0500
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