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| From | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Help needed |
| Date | 2020-04-04 19:54 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <heqp9pFfrroU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (4 earlier) <slrnr8fcd2.eb4.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> <r691l0$idd$1@dont-email.me> <slrnr8g4vd.ep1.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> <heqiu1FfrroU1@mid.individual.net> <slrnr8g75k.eq7.nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> |
On 04/04/2020 18:35, Ned Latham wrote: > Ian Collins wrote: >> Ned Latham wrote: >>> James Kuyper wrote: >>>> >>>> Could you identify the specific changes in the text of the standard that >>>> you're referring to, and when they happened? >>> >>> No. I don't geek around with committee standards. The only C++ standard >>> that I know is Stroustrup's: "Programming in C++", vol 3, 1997. >>> >>> Exception throwing was optional back then, which suits me fine, because >>> one of my projects is a library, and that is no place for exceptions >>> (frankly, I think they encourage sloppy programming, and I eschew them >>> at all times, not just in libraries). At some point, which I haven't >>> reached yet, it became the default. When I reach that point, I'll be >>> dropping back to the previous compiler. >> >> Default, where? May contemporary projects (and Google's coding >> standards) don't permit exceptions. > > You use cout, you risk an exception. Do you? > How do they prevent them from occurring? Compile with exceptions disabled. >>> Namespace wasn't on the curriculum when I started learning C++. >>> I don't know when it was introduced, but in his book (vol 3) Stroustrup >>> seems to imply that it's a new thing. He discusses, for example, >>> "transitioning" to it. >> >> Namespaces where introduced in the origin 1998 C++ standard, the one >> described in Stroustrup's third edition. >> >>> Now, it seems, its use is compulsory. >> >> Says who? > > I do. Ah, so it isn't "compulsory". Good to know. >>>> Could you identify what you consider to be defective about C++'s >>>> post-increment semantic? >>> >>> It doesn't work with non-native types. >>> Post-decrement too, of course. >> >> How so? > > I just told you. It doesn't work. Yeah right, very helpful. -- Ian.
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Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-04 00:15 -0400
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-03 23:58 -0500
Re: Help needed Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-04-04 18:06 +1300
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 00:35 -0500
Re: Help needed Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-04-04 19:54 +1300
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Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-05 04:10 -0500
Re: Help needed Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-04-05 16:31 +0100
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Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-04 10:51 -0400
Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-04 10:44 -0400
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-05 04:06 -0500
Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-05 11:04 -0400
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Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-05 16:59 -0400
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-05 21:38 -0500
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Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 08:33 -0500
Re: Help needed Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-04-05 07:35 +1200
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-05 04:19 -0500
Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-05 11:27 -0400
Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-04 22:27 -0400
Re: Help needed Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-04-04 14:50 +0100
Re: Help needed James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2020-04-04 10:27 -0400
Re: Help needed Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-04-05 07:37 +1200
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-05 03:45 -0500
Re: Help needed Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-04-04 09:02 +0300
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 01:20 -0500
Re: Help needed Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2020-04-04 19:43 +1300
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 02:10 -0500
Re: Help needed Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2020-04-04 01:58 -0700
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 05:04 -0500
Re: Help needed Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-04-04 14:37 +0300
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-04 07:25 -0500
Re: Help needed Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee> - 2020-04-04 17:39 +0300
Re: Help needed Ned Latham <nedlatham@woden.valhalla.oz> - 2020-04-05 04:02 -0500
Re: Help needed Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-04-03 19:35 +0200
Re: Help needed Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-04-03 20:01 +0200
Re: Help needed Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-04-04 16:16 +0200
Re: Help needed Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2020-04-04 18:58 +0200
Re: Help needed Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de> - 2020-04-03 22:01 +0200
Re: Help needed Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-04-03 21:05 +0100
Re: Help needed Bo Persson <bo@bo-persson.se> - 2020-04-04 02:10 +0200
Re: Help needed Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-04-04 08:19 +0000
Re: Help needed Gerry Wolff <gerrywolff65@gmail.com> - 2020-04-05 02:56 -0700
Re: Help needed Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2020-04-04 01:14 +0100
Re: Help needed Gerry Wolff <gerrywolff65@gmail.com> - 2020-04-05 02:49 -0700
Re: Help needed Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2020-04-04 16:30 -0400
Re: Help needed Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk> - 2020-04-05 05:58 +0100
Re: Help needed Gerry Wolff <gerrywolff65@gmail.com> - 2020-04-05 03:21 -0700
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