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Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom]

From David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com>
Newsgroups comp.dcom.telecom
Subject Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom]
Date 2011-04-04 16:38 +0000
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>***** Moderator's Note *****

> I suppose it's possible that the cable which came in from the street
> was, in fact, a fiber-optic cable: the Verizon tech told me it was
> coaxial, but that might be a misnomer.

> The tech told me that the cable used "Moca" format, and when I asked
> how it compared to Docsis, he just said "It's better".

> I'll leave it to the experts to explain my confusion away.

He's the confused one....not you.

I see no way that Verizontal ever puts the ONT anywhere but inside the
residence, for a basic reason: what would power it out there on the
pole? Further, since it's the vict^H^H^H^H subscriber's job to not
just supply it power but also buy & install new batteries..who will
climb the pole...?

Obviously in a MDU, where there's one multiport unit; it's slightly
different. There, your unit does get POTS via existing twisted pair
and TV & TCP/IP via MOCA/coax.

They do use MOCA, but the reason to do so is to save time {money} on
installations. They need their Set Top Box to have both TV and TCP/IP
feeds; if it does not get TCP/IP, it can't sell you pay per view.

BUT, while the ONT can supply TCP/IP out either the RJ45 jacks 
OR atop the coax via MOCA. it can not [do] both. And since there's
{presumably} coax to the TV now, but not CAT5, they started providing
routers with MOCA in, RJ45 out.

In fact, it's a screwy mess, as the router has to back-feed back
to the ONT to deliver TCP/IP via MOCA to the STB's. Somewhere
there's a good writeup on same. 

I wonder if we're ever see a MOCA -> POTS adapter unit as well.
Unlikely.

Further, the first generation of MOCA "Actiontec" routers sucked
sharp rocks and brought howls. Later ones may be better; there
are now pages telling you how to turn the miserable Actiontecs
into a bridge where it does less damage.

As for power backup, I can't grasp why people are putting the
ONT's on a UPS. A UPS takes AC and makes DC to charge a battery
to later turn it back into AC again...so the ONT can make DC
from it. And loses efficiency at every step.

It's my understanding that all the ONT's have a 2nd battery
input, and if you feed it 13.8vdc, it runs. So go buy a big
"gel cell" or if you have the space, a 50AH deep cycle marine
battery; and a $5 trickle charger. THAT will keep you going when
Reddy Kilowatt goes on strike.

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Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] "AJB Consulting" <ajbcs@frontier.com> - 2011-04-02 19:01 -0400
  Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2011-04-04 02:44 +0000
  Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones?  [telecom] John Stahl <aljon@stny.rr.com> - 2011-04-04 07:13 -0400
    Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones?  [telecom] T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> - 2011-04-11 07:51 -0400
  Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2011-04-04 16:38 +0000
    Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] "Gary" <bogus-email@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-10 14:10 -0400
    Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) - 2011-04-30 13:02 +0000
      Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] "D. W." <indianut@gmail.com> - 2011-06-07 15:39 -0700
    Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) - 2011-04-28 14:37 +0000
      Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net> - 2011-04-29 19:15 -0400
  Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] "Gary" <bogus-email@hotmail.com> - 2011-04-10 14:30 -0400
  Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) - 2011-04-28 14:35 +0000
    Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon) - 2011-04-28 15:55 +0000

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