Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!rahul.net!wasp.rahul.net!rahul.net!news.lightlink.com!news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: David Lesher Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Re: Does FiOS support rotary phones? [telecom] Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:38:00 +0000 (UTC) Organization: The Telecom Digest Lines: 55 Sender: news@iecc.com Approved: telecom-moderator@telecom.csail.mit.edu Message-ID: References: <000501cbf189$db2d6530$01fea8c0@dell8100> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.iecc.com X-Trace: gal.iecc.com 1301936507 16304 64.57.183.58 (4 Apr 2011 17:01:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@iecc.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 17:01:47 +0000 (UTC) MBOX-Line: From news@panix.com Mon Apr 04 16:38:03 2011 In-Reply-To: <000501cbf189$db2d6530$01fea8c0@dell8100> User-Agent: nn/6.7.3 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.dcom.telecom:295 >***** Moderator's Note ***** > I suppose it's possible that the cable which came in from the street > was, in fact, a fiber-optic cable: the Verizon tech told me it was > coaxial, but that might be a misnomer. > The tech told me that the cable used "Moca" format, and when I asked > how it compared to Docsis, he just said "It's better". > I'll leave it to the experts to explain my confusion away. He's the confused one....not you. I see no way that Verizontal ever puts the ONT anywhere but inside the residence, for a basic reason: what would power it out there on the pole? Further, since it's the vict^H^H^H^H subscriber's job to not just supply it power but also buy & install new batteries..who will climb the pole...? Obviously in a MDU, where there's one multiport unit; it's slightly different. There, your unit does get POTS via existing twisted pair and TV & TCP/IP via MOCA/coax. They do use MOCA, but the reason to do so is to save time {money} on installations. They need their Set Top Box to have both TV and TCP/IP feeds; if it does not get TCP/IP, it can't sell you pay per view. BUT, while the ONT can supply TCP/IP out either the RJ45 jacks OR atop the coax via MOCA. it can not [do] both. And since there's {presumably} coax to the TV now, but not CAT5, they started providing routers with MOCA in, RJ45 out. In fact, it's a screwy mess, as the router has to back-feed back to the ONT to deliver TCP/IP via MOCA to the STB's. Somewhere there's a good writeup on same. I wonder if we're ever see a MOCA -> POTS adapter unit as well. Unlikely. Further, the first generation of MOCA "Actiontec" routers sucked sharp rocks and brought howls. Later ones may be better; there are now pages telling you how to turn the miserable Actiontecs into a bridge where it does less damage. As for power backup, I can't grasp why people are putting the ONT's on a UPS. A UPS takes AC and makes DC to charge a battery to later turn it back into AC again...so the ONT can make DC from it. And loses efficiency at every step. It's my understanding that all the ONT's have a 2nd battery input, and if you feed it 13.8vdc, it runs. So go buy a big "gel cell" or if you have the space, a 50AH deep cycle marine battery; and a $5 trickle charger. THAT will keep you going when Reddy Kilowatt goes on strike.