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Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine

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From not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev)
Subject Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine
Newsgroups aus.computers
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Date 2024-12-01 06:43 +1000
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Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:
> On 29/11/2024 10:54 am, Keithr0 wrote:
>> On 29/11/2024 7:27 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote:
>>>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/11/found-in-the-wild-the- 
>>>> worlds-first-unkillable-uefi-bootkit-for-linux/
>>>
>>> Secure Boot has already proven insecure on Windows anyway:
>>> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/unkillable- 
>>> uefi-malware-bypassing-secure-boot-enabled-by-unpatchable-windows-flaw/
>>>
>> Better than nothing
> 
> or maybe not
> 
> https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/11/code-found-online-exploits-logofail-to-install-bootkitty-linux-backdoor/
> 
> Shows that Linux is susceptible to hacks just the same as any other OS.

Well all this is about the boot process, and this latest article is
about Secure Boot in PC manufacturer's flawed UEFI code. These
hacks depend on a hacker finding a way to get root access on their
target machine first in order to run these exploits. Plenty of
software bugs allowing that have been found in applications which
run on Linux over the years, but this is about the extent of what
hackers can do _after_ the Linux OS itself has been hacked.

Since you're pretty stuffed once a hacker has root access anyway,
Secure Boot never seemed worth the added complexity to me, but
that's a matter of opinion.

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Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-28 21:55 +1000
  Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-29 07:27 +1000
    Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-29 10:54 +1000
      Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-30 17:53 +1000
        Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-01 06:43 +1000
          Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-02 21:31 +1000
          Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-09 19:31 +1100
            Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-09 19:33 +1000
              Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-10 00:22 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-10 20:36 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-10 22:05 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-11 00:38 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-11 07:20 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-18 09:43 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-18 09:59 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-18 11:32 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 13:18 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-19 13:34 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 17:57 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 18:22 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 20:34 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-20 12:26 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-21 07:34 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 12:30 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-21 14:36 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 18:18 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 22:32 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-22 07:55 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:14 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:48 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 12:12 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:52 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine ng <ng@ng.com> - 2024-12-29 14:33 +0000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine ng <ng@ng.com> - 2025-01-03 03:43 +0000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2025-01-05 18:43 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2025-01-05 18:43 +1100
            Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-10 08:05 +1000
              Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-10 10:23 +1100
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-11 07:28 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-12 21:41 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2024-12-13 07:08 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-13 07:19 +1000
                Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-16 16:39 +1000

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