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| From | Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.computers |
| Subject | Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine |
| Date | 2024-12-10 20:36 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <lrqjt8Fuab5U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (3 earlier) <lqvuk4FksadU2@mid.individual.net> <674b78d6@news.ausics.net> <lrno7kFg7j5U1@mid.individual.net> <lrnrr2Fgo8rU1@mid.individual.net> <vj6qtr$dtqb$1@dont-email.me> |
On 9/12/2024 11:22 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > Keithr0 wrote on 9/12/24 8:33 pm: >> On 9/12/2024 6:31 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote: >>> Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote: >>>>> On 29/11/2024 10:54 am, Keithr0 wrote: >>>>>> On 29/11/2024 7:27 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote: >>>>>>> Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/11/found-in-the-wild-the- >>>>>>>> worlds-first-unkillable-uefi-bootkit-for-linux/ >>>>>>> Secure Boot has already proven insecure on Windows anyway: >>>>>>> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/03/unkillable- >>>>>>> uefi-malware-bypassing-secure-boot-enabled-by-unpatchable- >>>>>>> windows- flaw/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> Better than nothing >>>>> or maybe not >>>>> >>>>> https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/11/code-found-online- >>>>> exploits- logofail-to-install-bootkitty-linux-backdoor/ >>>>> >>>>> Shows that Linux is susceptible to hacks just the same as any other >>>>> OS. >>>> Well all this is about the boot process, and this latest article is >>>> about Secure Boot in PC manufacturer's flawed UEFI code. These >>>> hacks depend on a hacker finding a way to get root access on their >>>> target machine first in order to run these exploits. Plenty of >>>> software bugs allowing that have been found in applications which >>>> run on Linux over the years, but this is about the extent of what >>>> hackers can do _after_ the Linux OS itself has been hacked. >>>> >>>> Since you're pretty stuffed once a hacker has root access anyway, >>>> Secure Boot never seemed worth the added complexity to me, but >>>> that's a matter of opinion. >>> >>> what happens if they get root access? >>> >> They own the machine. > > .... until you disconnect from the Net and re-install your OS, probably. Unless they did via a boot kit, then even changing the disk won't help.
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Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-28 21:55 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-11-29 07:27 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-29 10:54 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-30 17:53 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-01 06:43 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-02 21:31 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-09 19:31 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-09 19:33 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-10 00:22 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-10 20:36 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-12-10 22:05 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-11 00:38 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-11 07:20 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-18 09:43 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-18 09:59 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-18 11:32 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 13:18 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-19 13:34 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 17:57 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 18:22 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-19 20:34 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-20 12:26 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-21 07:34 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 12:30 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-21 14:36 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 18:18 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-21 22:32 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-22 07:55 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 11:14 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:48 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-23 12:12 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:52 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine ng <ng@ng.com> - 2024-12-29 14:33 +0000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine ng <ng@ng.com> - 2025-01-03 03:43 +0000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2025-01-05 18:43 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine MightyMouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2025-01-05 18:43 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-10 08:05 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-12-10 10:23 +1100
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-11 07:28 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-12 21:41 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> - 2024-12-13 07:08 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2024-12-13 07:19 +1000
Re: Why secure boot might be a good idea on your Linux machine Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-12-16 16:39 +1000
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