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| First post | 2025-01-30 18:39 +1100 |
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"Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 18:39 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-30 03:21 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 22:05 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-30 12:27 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 18:54 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-31 14:06 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 19:26 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 06:56 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 00:02 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-30 07:15 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 18:55 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-01-30 09:08 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-30 22:14 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-01-30 12:49 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-01-30 12:33 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-31 19:11 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-01-31 13:27 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 00:20 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-30 16:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-30 12:35 -0600
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-06 01:49 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-06 13:38 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> - 2025-02-09 10:44 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-18 00:41 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-18 11:05 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-18 11:57 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-20 15:48 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-20 16:33 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 18:44 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:42 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 20:12 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Jeff Gaines" <jgnewsid@outlook.com> - 2025-02-02 09:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 06:24 -0500
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-05 22:28 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-05 22:41 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-05 12:51 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-10 20:35 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-10 10:14 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:42 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:47 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 20:52 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 21:13 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-11 11:24 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 23:03 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-12 20:58 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-12 10:11 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-12 11:56 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:35 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-12 11:10 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:45 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-13 11:10 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:03 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-14 11:06 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-12 11:27 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 20:56 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-13 16:19 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:05 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-11 13:47 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 21:00 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-13 21:08 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-13 16:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-13 22:18 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 16:24 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-17 20:57 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:09 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-14 22:37 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-14 16:06 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-15 20:13 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-02-11 22:00 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-11 10:31 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-11 23:07 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-11 12:25 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-12 21:07 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-02-12 11:06 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 11:14 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:12 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-02-06 01:57 +0000
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-10 20:53 +1100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-10 14:16 +0100
Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it?? Dabe Vlohn <tar@tara.bar> - 2025-03-30 18:32 +0000
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-13 16:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vola8q.lfc.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80963 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: [...] > When do MicroSoft release their 'normal' updates?? First Tuesday of the > month?? Second?? Third?? Second Tuesday US time. For you that would be the second Wednesday. I'm in The Netherlands and do my updates on the second Wednesday, which was yesterday (day before yesterday by the time you wake up! :-)). BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay updates for upto 4 weeks: Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click that button, it'll do a check for updates right away.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-13 22:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <m175ssFns5eU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80966 |
On 2025-02-13 17:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> When do MicroSoft release their 'normal' updates?? First Tuesday of the
>> month?? Second?? Third??
>
> Second Tuesday US time. For you that would be the second Wednesday.
> I'm in The Netherlands and do my updates on the second Wednesday, which
> was yesterday (day before yesterday by the time you wake up! :-)).
>
> BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay
> updates for upto 4 weeks:
>
> Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for
> updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for
> X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume
> updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click
> that button, it'll do a check for updates right away.
Better to define the connection as metered. Windows will then not do
automatic updates.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-14 16:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vonu90.oe4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80967 |
Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2025-02-13 17:31, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: [...] > > BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay > > updates for upto 4 weeks: > > > > Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for > > updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for > > X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume > > updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click > > that button, it'll do a check for updates right away. > > Better to define the connection as metered. Windows will then not do > automatic updates. Yes, I know. I was just describing where Daniel wants to use Windows Update over his mobile phone connection, but just not now. BTW, you can only set a connection as metered if that connection is currently visible to your computer. I.e. the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot on the phone must be switched on and the computer must be connected to that hotspot, only then you can see/change the 'Metered connection' setting in the properties of that connection. That's different than on Android, where you have a 'Manage networks' facility to manage known, but unconnected, networks. You can get around this Windows limitation by turning off 'Mobile data' on the phone and then connecting to the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot. I.e. you're connected to the hotspot, so you can change its 'Metered connection' setting on the Windows side, but since 'Mobile data' is off, you won't be wasting any mobile data for this change is setting. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt! :-)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 20:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5ugc8lxgq6.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #80974 |
On 2025-02-14 17:24, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> On 2025-02-13 17:31, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > [...] >>> BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay >>> updates for upto 4 weeks: >>> >>> Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for >>> updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for >>> X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume >>> updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click >>> that button, it'll do a check for updates right away. >> >> Better to define the connection as metered. Windows will then not do >> automatic updates. > > Yes, I know. I was just describing where Daniel wants to use Windows > Update over his mobile phone connection, but just not now. > > BTW, you can only set a connection as metered if that connection is > currently visible to your computer. YES! I know. It's dumb. > I.e. the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot on the > phone must be switched on and the computer must be connected to that > hotspot, only then you can see/change the 'Metered connection' setting > in the properties of that connection. That's different than on Android, > where you have a 'Manage networks' facility to manage known, but > unconnected, networks. > > You can get around this Windows limitation by turning off 'Mobile > data' on the phone and then connecting to the mobile/Wi-Fi hotspot. I.e. > you're connected to the hotspot, so you can change its 'Metered > connection' setting on the Windows side, but since 'Mobile data' is off, > you won't be wasting any mobile data for this change is setting. Ah, nice trick. It did not occur to me that the phone would allow the connection. > > Been there, done that, got the T-shirt! :-) Yeah, I see :-) I've never tethered a computer using Windows, only with Linux (using openSUSE). It is easier to control what uses Internet, although distros try to emulate Windows. I have to manually disable the automatic updater (it looks for updates but does not install them; one variant downloads them as well) or uninstall it, then do manual updates when convenient. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-14 22:09 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <von88e$3ef4d$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80966 |
On 14/02/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > [...] > >> When do MicroSoft release their 'normal' updates?? First Tuesday of the >> month?? Second?? Third?? > > Second Tuesday US time. For you that would be the second Wednesday. > I'm in The Netherlands and do my updates on the second Wednesday, which > was yesterday (day before yesterday by the time you wake up! :-)). > > BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay > updates for upto 4 weeks: > > Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for > updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for > X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume > updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click > that button, it'll do a check for updates right away. > Thanks for that, Frank, again. ;-P -- Daniel70
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-14 22:37 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <von9u0$3er95$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80971 |
On 14/02/2025 10:09 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > On 14/02/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> [...] >> >>> When do MicroSoft release their 'normal' updates?? First Tuesday of the >>> month?? Second?? Third?? >> >> Second Tuesday US time. For you that would be the second Wednesday. >> I'm in The Netherlands and do my updates on the second Wednesday, which >> was yesterday (day before yesterday by the time you wake up! :-)). >> >> BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay >> updates for upto 4 weeks: >> >> Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for >> updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for >> X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume >> updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click >> that button, it'll do a check for updates right away. >> > Thanks for that, Frank, again. ;-P O.K., I found the Settings -> Windows Updates, and, on the 'Pause update' tab, it's saying "You've reached the maximum amount of pause time. To help keep your device secure, get the latest updates - then you'll be able to pause again" .... and the 'Pause for 1 week" button is Greyed out. ..... and, at the top of that screen, it states "Updates paused until 10/03/2025" .... so I guess I'll just have to wait!! -- Daniel70
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-14 16:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vont5t.d0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80972 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > On 14/02/2025 10:09 pm, Daniel70 wrote: > > On 14/02/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: [...] > >> BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay > >> updates for upto 4 weeks: > >> > >> Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for > >> updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for > >> X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume > >> updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click > >> that button, it'll do a check for updates right away. > >> > > Thanks for that, Frank, again. ;-P > > O.K., I found the Settings -> Windows Updates, and, on the 'Pause > update' tab, it's saying "You've reached the maximum amount of pause > time. To help keep your device secure, get the latest updates - then > you'll be able to pause again" .... and the 'Pause for 1 week" button is > Greyed out. ..... and, at the top of that screen, it states "Updates > paused until 10/03/2025" .... so I guess I'll just have to wait!! Was 'Pause updates' giving that message *before you (tried to?) chance the setting? If so, something/somebody must have set it, because normally there is no message and the button says 'Pause for 1 week \/', where '\/' is the down arrow which opens the other choices. BUT, Windows Update probably checks when the last update was done, because I said you could delay updates for 4 weeks, while I was sure that one could set it to 5 weeks. And lo and behold, today, *after* yesterday's 'Check for updates', it's indeed back to upto 5 weeks. Anyway, you can get out of the dead-lock by disconnecting from the network, clicking 'Check for updates' (which of course will give an error because there is no network) and reconnecting to the network. Then the 'Pause for 1 week \/' button is no longer greyed out. Of course now the system is back to normal and will regularly check for updates and hence 'eat' data.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-15 20:13 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <voplsn$3v94n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80973 |
On 15/02/2025 3:06 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> On 14/02/2025 10:09 pm, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 14/02/2025 3:31 am, Frank Slootweg wrote: > [...] >>>> BTW, with regard to your data-limit problems: You can easily delay >>>> updates for upto 4 weeks: >>>> >>>> Disconnect from the network (so Windows Update can't check for >>>> updates). Settings -> Windows Update -> Pause updates -> Extend for >>>> X weeks. And connect again to the network. Windows Update has a '[Resume >>>> updates]' button to resume at any time, but be warned, when you click >>>> that button, it'll do a check for updates right away. >>>> >>> Thanks for that, Frank, again. ;-P >> >> O.K., I found the Settings -> Windows Updates, and, on the 'Pause >> update' tab, it's saying "You've reached the maximum amount of pause >> time. To help keep your device secure, get the latest updates - then >> you'll be able to pause again" .... and the 'Pause for 1 week" button is >> Greyed out. ..... and, at the top of that screen, it states "Updates >> paused until 10/03/2025" .... so I guess I'll just have to wait!! > > Was 'Pause updates' giving that message *before you (tried to?) chance > the setting? If so, something/somebody must have set it, because > normally there is no message and the button says 'Pause for 1 week \/', > where '\/' is the down arrow which opens the other choices. > > BUT, Windows Update probably checks when the last update was done, > because I said you could delay updates for 4 weeks, while I was sure > that one could set it to 5 weeks. And lo and behold, today, *after* > yesterday's 'Check for updates', it's indeed back to upto 5 weeks. > > Anyway, you can get out of the dead-lock by disconnecting from the > network, clicking 'Check for updates' (which of course will give an > error because there is no network) and reconnecting to the network. Then > the 'Pause for 1 week \/' button is no longer greyed out. Of course now > the system is back to normal and will regularly check for updates and > hence 'eat' data. > I disconnected from any/all connections and checked Settings -> Windows updates ... and it was telling me the "You've reached the maximum amount of pause time. To help keep your device secure, get the latest updates - then you'll be able to pause again" .... and the 'Pause for 1 week" button is Greyed out." message as before. Let's call it quits for now and I'll have another fiddle later!! -- Daniel70
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-11 22:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m11vivF2hakU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80942 |
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 20:52:45 +1100, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote in <vof6lk$1nhfv$1@dont-email.me>: > On 11/02/2025 8:47 pm, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 11/02/2025 8:42 pm, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote: >>>> Daniel70 wrote: >>>> >>>> [snip] >>>> >>>>>> >>>>> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals >>>>> ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi >>>>> connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. >>>> >>>> You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you. "Wi-Fi >>>> connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, >>>> (probably one in a router)". What you want is "make phone function >>>> as a wireless access point". >>>> >>>> To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the >>>> terminology may vary from one phone to another. So exactly what make >>>> and model of phone do you have? >>> >>> Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi hotspot >>> 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that mean >>> anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is using the >>> 2.4GHz AP Band >>>> >>>> Once you have enabled the hotspot you should see a new WiFi signal on >>>> your computer. The name of this WiFi signal will be something >>>> relating to the make and model of phone. >>> >>> .... and what do you know .... there is a 'Aspera Jazz 2' Hotspot >>> device showing up on my Computers list of possible connections ..... >>> so here I go!!!! >>> >>> It seems to suggest it has connected via 'Aspera JAZZ 2' and the >>> Mobile phone is now showing 'Android system Tethering or Hotspot >>> active 1 connected 0 blocked'. >>> >>> But ..... >>> "Sending of the message failed. >>> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server >>> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. >>> Please verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." >>> >>> So I've re-enabled the Telco Modem Wi-Fi and here we are!! (I hope!!) >> >> Did I just have a 'Doh!!' moment?? When I picked up my mobile phone to >> turn off the 'Hotspot and Tethering' .... and realised I hadn't actually >> turned ON the phone's mobile data function .... so, second time around >> ..... > > And, Lo and Behold!! I have uploaded a message to the Internet and > downloaded that same message from the Internet .... and starting the > Browser function of my SeaMonkey Suite and I can SEE WEBSITES!! > > Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!! > > (Now to remember to keep a check on how much of my 4.5GB Mobile Phone > Data I'm using .... until my normal account becomes re-active on about > the 20th of the month.) > > Thank you!! Thank you! Thank you. ;-) Congrats! :) -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.0-rc2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-11 10:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvqm9nr.983.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #80940 |
On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: > On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote: >> Daniel70 wrote: >> >> [snip] >> >>>> >>> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals >>> ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi >>> connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. >> >> You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you. "Wi-Fi >> connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, >> (probably one in a router)". What you want is "make phone function as a >> wireless access point". >> >> To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the >> terminology may vary from one phone to another. So exactly what make >> and model of phone do you have? > > Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi hotspot > 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that mean > anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is using the > 2.4GHz AP Band "WPA PSK" just means you're using a pre-shared key (i.e. you told the AP and the client what the password is). > But ..... > "Sending of the message failed. > The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server > failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please > verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." That might be your mobile phone carrier only allowing certain (common) ports through the hotspot, such as 80/443 for web browsing and 495/587/25 for email. Maybe a few other things too. -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-11 23:07 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vofehh$1orgp$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80944 |
On 11/02/2025 9:31 pm, Dan Purgert wrote: > On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 10/02/2025 9:14 pm, Graham J wrote: >>> Daniel70 wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>> >>>>> >>>> The Computer is showing about a half dozen different Wi-Fi signals >>>> ..... but the really frustrating thing is that, when I enable Wi-Fi >>>> connecting on the phone .... the Computer DOESN'T 'find' a new signal. >>> >>> You may have misunderstood what the phone is telling you. "Wi-Fi >>> connecting" probably means "connect phone to a wireless access point, >>> (probably one in a router)". What you want is "make phone function as a >>> wireless access point". >>> >>> To achieve this normally you would need to enable "hotspot" but the >>> terminology may vary from one phone to another. So exactly what make >>> and model of phone do you have? >> >> Mobile Phone model Aspera Jazz 2 and I have now turned Wi-Fi hotspot >> 'On'. It tells me I am using WPA2 PSK Security (does that mean >> anything?),there is a (12 Digit) Hotspot password and is using the >> 2.4GHz AP Band > > "WPA PSK" just means you're using a pre-shared key (i.e. you told the AP > and the client what the password is). > >> But ..... >> "Sending of the message failed. >> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server >> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please >> verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." > > That might be your mobile phone carrier only allowing certain (common) > ports through the hotspot, such as 80/443 for web browsing and > 495/587/25 for email. Maybe a few other things too. > Making note of these Port numbers .... you know ... Just in case. But, seems as I was able to browse and post to UseNet, I'm hoping it will not be necessary. -- Daniel70
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-11 12:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvqmgei.983.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #80947 |
On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: > On 11/02/2025 9:31 pm, Dan Purgert wrote: >> On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: >>> But ..... >>> "Sending of the message failed. >>> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server >>> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please >>> verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." >> >> That might be your mobile phone carrier only allowing certain (common) >> ports through the hotspot, such as 80/443 for web browsing and >> 495/587/25 for email. Maybe a few other things too. >> > Making note of these Port numbers .... you know ... Just in case. > > But, seems as I was able to browse and post to UseNet, I'm hoping it > will not be necessary. Ignore the comment - it's an issue of responding to a post without having seen the followup of "I forgot to turn on mobile data". -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-12 21:07 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vohrse$29fbn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80948 |
On 11/02/2025 11:25 pm, Dan Purgert wrote: > On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 11/02/2025 9:31 pm, Dan Purgert wrote: >>> On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> But ..... >>>> "Sending of the message failed. >>>> The message could not be posted because connecting to the news server >>>> failed. The server may be unavailable or is refusing connections. Please >>>> verify that your news server settings are correct and try again." >>> >>> That might be your mobile phone carrier only allowing certain (common) >>> ports through the hotspot, such as 80/443 for web browsing and >>> 495/587/25 for email. Maybe a few other things too. >>> >> Making note of these Port numbers .... you know ... Just in case. >> >> But, seems as I was able to browse and post to UseNet, I'm hoping it >> will not be necessary. > > Ignore the comment - it's an issue of responding to a post without > having seen the followup of "I forgot to turn on mobile data". .... but you tried to help me, Dan, so thank you ..... and thank you to all the others that have tried. ;-P -- Daniel70
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| From | Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-12 11:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvqp054.983.dan@djph.net> |
| In reply to | #80953 |
On 2025-02-12, Daniel70 wrote: > On 11/02/2025 11:25 pm, Dan Purgert wrote: >> On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 11/02/2025 9:31 pm, Dan Purgert wrote: >>>> On 2025-02-11, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> But ..... >>>>> "Sending of the message failed. >>>> [...] >>>> That might be your mobile phone carrier only allowing certain >>>> (common) ports [...] >>>> >>> Making note of these Port numbers .... you know ... Just in case. >>> >>> But, seems as I was able to browse and post to UseNet, I'm hoping it >>> will not be necessary. >> >> Ignore the comment - it's an issue of responding to a post without >> having seen the followup of "I forgot to turn on mobile data". > > .... but you tried to help me, Dan, so thank you ..... and thank you to > all the others that have tried. ;-P No problem -- it was more that I didn't want to lead you any further astray, given the issue was simply "oh, data was off" :). -- |_|O|_| |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 11:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vocqi4.ug0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80932 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: [...] > It seems I have failed, over and over again, to connect my Computer to > the phones Wi-Fi. Indeed, now I find the phone will not Wi-Fi connect to > the Computer directly. > > The phone's Wi-Fi connects to the Telco's Modem and then tries to use my > (throttled) Telco account .... sure. > > But Wi-Fi connect to my mobile phone (which is sitting on the same table > as the Computer), NOPE, don't want to do that. ;-( You seem to be confused as to how this works. You can have *either* have your phone connect to the Wi-Fi access point of your Telco's modem *or* have your computer connect to the Wi-Fi hotspot in your phone. So when your phone is Wi-Fi connected to your Telco's modem, you cannot connect your computer to the Wi-Fi hotspot in the phone. And vice versa. When you turn on the Wi-Fi hotspot in your phone, i.e. not just *configure* it, but (also) *turn it on*, your phone will say it turns off Wi-Fi (or that you must turn it off), because the phone needs its Wi-Fi 'radio' to be used as a Wi-Fi hotspot. It can not do both at the same time. So in short: Check that the Wi-Fi hotspot in your phone is not only configured, but also switched on. And check that the Wi-Fi connection of the phone to the Telco's modem is of/disconnected. [...]
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 14:12 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <fjap7lx975.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #80935 |
On 2025-02-10 12:14, Frank Slootweg wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > [...] > >> It seems I have failed, over and over again, to connect my Computer to >> the phones Wi-Fi. Indeed, now I find the phone will not Wi-Fi connect to >> the Computer directly. >> >> The phone's Wi-Fi connects to the Telco's Modem and then tries to use my >> (throttled) Telco account .... sure. >> >> But Wi-Fi connect to my mobile phone (which is sitting on the same table >> as the Computer), NOPE, don't want to do that. ;-( > > You seem to be confused as to how this works. > > You can have *either* have your phone connect to the Wi-Fi access > point of your Telco's modem *or* have your computer connect to the Wi-Fi > hotspot in your phone. To add to the confusion, some phones are capable of connecting to the house WiFi and provide a hotspot at the same time. Yeah, I was very surprised. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-06 01:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m0ij7hFj8o7U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80905 |
On 02/02/2025 09:12, Daniel70 wrote: > Under "Network & Internet", one option is "Hotspot & Tethering", I am > offered > > 1. 'Wi-Fi hotspot' which says "Not sharing internet or content with > other devices" > > 2. (Greyed out) 'USB Tethering' "Share phone's internet connection via > USB" and the associated slide switch is also Greyed Out. Maybe you have to connect the phone to you PC via USB first on this phone? Maybe once you've done that you can turn it on? > 3. 'Bluetooth tethering' Share phone's Internet connection via > Bluetooth .. and that slide switch is turned off but can be turned on. That's another possibility if your PC has Bluetooth. I used to do it many years ago. It's a little more complicated though, and it's pretty slow. > And the note at the bottom of that screen states "Use hotspot or > tethering to provide internet to other devices through your mobile data > connection. Apps can also create a hotspot to share content with nearby > devices." -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 20:53 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <vocibj$15d9k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80926 |
On 6/02/2025 12:57 pm, Brian Gregory wrote: > On 02/02/2025 09:12, Daniel70 wrote: >> Under "Network & Internet", one option is "Hotspot & Tethering", I am >> offered >> >> 1. 'Wi-Fi hotspot' which says "Not sharing internet or content with >> other devices" >> >> 2. (Greyed out) 'USB Tethering' "Share phone's internet connection via >> USB" and the associated slide switch is also Greyed Out. > > Maybe you have to connect the phone to you PC via USB first on this > phone? Maybe once you've done that you can turn it on? Easy done .... (I think) .... as I recharge my Mobile Phone by connecting it to a mini-USB plug hanging of one end of a Cable who's other end (USB) is plugged into this Computer .... Done!! I just "deselected" my usual Wi-Fi signal and tried connecting to the other Wi-Fi signals .... but the all required "Network Security Keys" >> 3. 'Bluetooth tethering' Share phone's Internet connection via >> Bluetooth .. and that slide switch is turned off but can be turned on. > > That's another possibility if your PC has Bluetooth. I used to do it > many years ago. It's a little more complicated though, and it's pretty > slow. > > >> And the note at the bottom of that screen states "Use hotspot or >> tethering to provide internet to other devices through your mobile >> data connection. Apps can also create a hotspot to share content with >> nearby devices." > -- Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-02-10 14:16 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1qap7lx975.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #80933 |
On 2025-02-10 10:53, Daniel70 wrote: > On 6/02/2025 12:57 pm, Brian Gregory wrote: >> On 02/02/2025 09:12, Daniel70 wrote: >>> Under "Network & Internet", one option is "Hotspot & Tethering", I am >>> offered >>> >>> 1. 'Wi-Fi hotspot' which says "Not sharing internet or content with >>> other devices" >>> >>> 2. (Greyed out) 'USB Tethering' "Share phone's internet connection >>> via USB" and the associated slide switch is also Greyed Out. >> >> Maybe you have to connect the phone to you PC via USB first on this >> phone? Maybe once you've done that you can turn it on? > > Easy done .... (I think) .... as I recharge my Mobile Phone by > connecting it to a mini-USB plug hanging of one end of a Cable who's > other end (USB) is plugged into this Computer .... Done!! At this point you have to tell your phone to share Internet via the USB connection. Not "charging". > > I just "deselected" my usual Wi-Fi signal and tried connecting to the > other Wi-Fi signals .... but the all required "Network Security Keys" Not WiFi. It will be ethernet over USB or similar wording. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Dabe Vlohn <tar@tara.bar> |
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| Date | 2025-03-30 18:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvuj3ik.296ra.tar@dod.tara.bar> |
| In reply to | #80882 |
Just a quick Google search for "tether" brings up a lot of results. I'm not sure if it's the same thing as what you're looking for. Cheers, Dabe On 2025-01-30, Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: > This post is cross-posted to both alt.comp.os.windows-11 and > alt.os.linux to increase my chances of getting an answer. > > Some of you may have read that my HP 6730b Dual-boot Win7/Linux Laptop > has died/is dieing so I've resorted to this HP Win-11 Desktop that I am > tring to get up and running. > > However, in updating the Win-11 OS and all the bits and pieces of this > HP 24-cr0002a 24 All-in-One N100 8GB/256GB Desktop Computer, I've used > up all my monthly Data allowance ..... which doesn't get renewed until > about 20 Feb so, until then my download speed is limited to about 35kB/sec. > > However .... (as I was trying to drift off to sleep last night), I > thought "What about if I use a PrePaid chip (like I use in my > Mobilephone), could I connect via the chip in a USB dongle (after > disabling my Wi-Fi)??" > > Back in the day (2000 - 2010'ish), I used to connect via a USB dongle so > it must be possible .... > > But, then I thought .... If I can connect like this using a chip in a > Dongle .... when I connect my Mobile Phone (via USB to9 recharge my > phone) to my Computer can't I effectively use my mobile phone, using > it's Data allocation, to do my Web Browsing?? > > Is this what 'they' call "Tethering"?? > > If so how, on this HP Win11 Computer, do I disable Wi-Fi and then enable > USB Tethering?? > > TIA.
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