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  AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 04:12 -0700
    Re: AntiX wifi Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-27 09:44 -0400
      Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 07:27 -0700
        Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 08:45 -0700
          Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 09:39 -0700
            Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 10:33 -0700
              Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 14:16 -0700
                Re: AntiX wifi Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-27 17:23 -0400
                  Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 15:22 -0700
                    Re: AntiX wifi Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-10-27 18:58 -0400
                Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 14:53 -0700
                Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 15:58 -0700
                  Re: AntiX wifi Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-10-27 23:07 +0000
                    Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 17:08 -0700
                      Re: AntiX wifi Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-10-28 00:37 +0000
                        Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-27 17:53 -0700
                          Re: AntiX wifi Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-10-28 06:37 +0000
    Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-10-30 07:20 -0700
      Re: AntiX wifi Skippy Fandango <skippyfandango@ultvok.org> - 2016-10-30 10:29 -0400
        Buh bye Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-10-30 12:40 -0400
          Re: Buh bye Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-10-30 18:39 +0000
          Re: Buh bye GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-10-30 21:44 -0600
          Re: Buh bye Skippy Fandango <skippyfandango@ultvok.org> - 2016-10-31 21:21 -0400
            Re: Buh bye Jim Polaski <jpolaski@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-01 01:33 +0000
    Re: AntiX wifi Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2016-11-02 11:15 -0700

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#193355 — AntiX wifi

This isn't Ub, but this group is more sane than the alt.os.linux group 
activity.  I may have to take this to antiX or mepis forum, but I prefer 
ng/s.

I'm trying to get antiX 16 wifi up on an Acer AO722 (cpu AMD C-60, 4G 
ram) which has  wifi Atheros chipset and driver ath9k.  The enhanced 
XFCE interface of MX-15 works fine for the wifi.  The antiX graphical 
tool wpagui isn't working properly ie its adapter field menu is 
unpopulated.  It also has an atheros ethernet which isn't connected to 
the lan.  The ethernet is AR8152 (driver atlic) and the wifi chip is AR9485.

When I try to run ceni from antix internet menu, I get an error message: 
invalid desktop entry file, /usr/share/applications/ceni-desktop.  When 
I look to see if ceni is installed using synaptic, there is no entry, 
and ceni from the command line says command not found.  (But) When I use 
locate, there are all kinds of ceni files, but they are absent when I 
try to find them with the SpaceFM file manager with the hidden files 
unhidden.  That baffles me.

When I boot the antiX on a system with ethernet connectivity, it 
connects automatically and has a notification icon.  On the Acer, that 
icon registers no ethernet connectivity; no wifi mentioned. (Corrected 
see below)

I've booted this antiX on 2 different wifi-only systems, because 
sometimes in the past this atheros wifi has acted 'funky' I think 
because it reports itself as ethernet inconsistently; but I get the same 
problems on the alternate laptop.

It has a wpa_supplicant, but I don't know how to use it manually. I 
don't think the supplicant is going to help me until I get the wifi card 
recognized properly.

It shows in

sudo lspci -v | grep Net

Correction to ethernet/wifi notification icon:

I used

sudo ifconfig wlan0 up

... which caused another icon to appear which annunciates no wlan0 
connectivity like the ethernet, but its only function Repair doesn't help

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193358

On 2016-10-27, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> This isn't Ub, but this group is more sane than the alt.os.linux group 
> activity.  I may have to take this to antiX or mepis forum, but I prefer 
> ng/s.
>
> I'm trying to get antiX 16 wifi up on an Acer AO722 (cpu AMD C-60, 4G 
> ram) which has  wifi Atheros chipset and driver ath9k.  The enhanced 
> XFCE interface of MX-15 works fine for the wifi.  The antiX graphical 
> tool wpagui isn't working properly ie its adapter field menu is 
> unpopulated.  It also has an atheros ethernet which isn't connected to 
> the lan.  The ethernet is AR8152 (driver atlic) and the wifi chip is AR9485.
>
> When I try to run ceni from antix internet menu, I get an error message: 
> invalid desktop entry file, /usr/share/applications/ceni-desktop.  When 
> I look to see if ceni is installed using synaptic, there is no entry, 
> and ceni from the command line says command not found.  (But) When I use 
> locate, there are all kinds of ceni files, but they are absent when I 
> try to find them with the SpaceFM file manager with the hidden files 
> unhidden.  That baffles me.
>
> When I boot the antiX on a system with ethernet connectivity, it 
> connects automatically and has a notification icon.  On the Acer, that 
> icon registers no ethernet connectivity; no wifi mentioned. (Corrected 
> see below)
>
> I've booted this antiX on 2 different wifi-only systems, because 
> sometimes in the past this atheros wifi has acted 'funky' I think 
> because it reports itself as ethernet inconsistently; but I get the same 
> problems on the alternate laptop.
>
> It has a wpa_supplicant, but I don't know how to use it manually. I 
> don't think the supplicant is going to help me until I get the wifi card 
> recognized properly.
>
> It shows in
>
> sudo lspci -v | grep Net
>
> Correction to ethernet/wifi notification icon:
>
> I used
>
> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
>
> ... which caused another icon to appear which annunciates no wlan0 
> connectivity like the ethernet, but its only function Repair doesn't help

What's your kernel version? 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#193359

Marek Novotny wrote:
> What's your kernel version?

4.4.10-antix-1-486-smp

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193360

Mike Easter wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>> What's your kernel version?
>
> 4.4.10-antix-1-486-smp

I also have the 64 bit.  I'm going to replace the 32 bit with the 64. 
That 32 bit 486 has features like dialup utilities on it.  Maybe the 64 
bit will be more oriented to wifi.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#193362

Mike Easter wrote:
> That 32 bit 486 has features like dialup utilities on it.  Maybe the 64
> bit will be more oriented to wifi.

The 64 bit has a very different interface including wicd which can now 
see the SSIDs.  For some reason I'm having trouble authenticating. 
There are choices which are unfamiliar to me.  I usually call it WPA PSK 
but that isn't a choice.  I'm choosing WPA 1/2 (Passphrase) which isn't 
working.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193365

Mike Easter wrote:
> I usually call it WPA PSK but that isn't a choice.  I'm choosing WPA 1/2
> (Passphrase) which isn't working.

Trial & error (with repeats after failures) eventually resulted in 
success acquiring LAN IP with what it calls: WPA 1/2 Hex.

The desktop is IceWM and its menu gives options for 13 other choices 
which are WM combos such as Rox-Flux, Space-Flux, Space-jwm, etc.

Oops.  I have an IP but I can't connect WAN.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193372

Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> I usually call it WPA PSK but that isn't a choice.  I'm choosing WPA 1/2
>> (Passphrase) which isn't working.
>
> Trial & error (with repeats after failures) eventually resulted in
> success acquiring LAN IP with what it calls: WPA 1/2 Hex.

> Oops.  I have an IP but I can't connect WAN.

Research tells me that I should be using WPA 1/2 Passphrase not Hex; so 
I tried over and over again to make that configuration connect and get a 
LAN IP and it finally did, but I still can't ping ANYTHING.

I have a lan IP.  I can't ping 8.8.8.8 and I can't ping my gateway at 
192.168.1.1 and the firewall is off.

I don't understand why I can see the various neighborhood SSIDs but I 
still can't even ping my gateway.  Let's see, those are radios but my 
packets can't travel or get back.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#193373

On 2016-10-27, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> I usually call it WPA PSK but that isn't a choice.  I'm choosing WPA 1/2
>>> (Passphrase) which isn't working.
>>
>> Trial & error (with repeats after failures) eventually resulted in
>> success acquiring LAN IP with what it calls: WPA 1/2 Hex.
>
>> Oops.  I have an IP but I can't connect WAN.
>
> Research tells me that I should be using WPA 1/2 Passphrase not Hex; so 
> I tried over and over again to make that configuration connect and get a 
> LAN IP and it finally did, but I still can't ping ANYTHING.
>
> I have a lan IP.  I can't ping 8.8.8.8 and I can't ping my gateway at 
> 192.168.1.1 and the firewall is off.
>
> I don't understand why I can see the various neighborhood SSIDs but I 
> still can't even ping my gateway.  Let's see, those are radios but my 
> packets can't travel or get back.

Does this WPA/2 device have ethernet ports on it? If yes, test one and
see what happens. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#193375

Marek Novotny wrote:
> Does this WPA/2 device have ethernet ports on it? If yes, test one and
> see what happens.

With ethernet connected it automatically gets eth0 up and connected and 
can get anything LAN or WAN without my doing anything.

This is a live system, so I don't have the option of testing some of 
these wifi steps with a intervening reboot.  What I have been able to do 
in the past when I would have like to have rebooted, I just logged out 
and back in again.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193377

On 2016-10-27, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>> Does this WPA/2 device have ethernet ports on it? If yes, test one and
>> see what happens.
>
> With ethernet connected it automatically gets eth0 up and connected and 
> can get anything LAN or WAN without my doing anything.
>
> This is a live system, so I don't have the option of testing some of 
> these wifi steps with a intervening reboot.  What I have been able to do 
> in the past when I would have like to have rebooted, I just logged out 
> and back in again.

Well, at least the device works if the Ethernet ports work. Any other
device using WiFi on it? If yes, then it's your config, which is likely
where you are now. Just thinking out loud. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#193374

Mike Easter wrote:
> I have a lan IP.  I can't ping 8.8.8.8 and I can't ping my gateway at
> 192.168.1.1 and the firewall is off.

cat /etc/resolv.conf

gives me the DNS which are normally assigned by DHCP and shows the 
additional 8.8.8.8 which I put into part of the config for wicd.

So, when it got its IP, it also got the DHCP DNS.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193376

Mike Easter wrote:
> I have a lan IP.  I can't ping 8.8.8.8 and I can't ping my gateway at
> 192.168.1.1 and the firewall is off.

Checking booting the antiX on another system which has a different 
Atheros chipset and uses ath5k instead of ath9k, I have the same 
problem.  It takes about 4 attempts to get a LAN IP using the passphrase 
type WPA, then after I get the LAN IP I can't ping 8.8.8.8 nor 
192.168.1.1 but I can ping 127.0.0.1.  Firewall off.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193379

On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 15:58:24 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:
>> I have a lan IP.  I can't ping 8.8.8.8 and I can't ping my gateway at
>> 192.168.1.1 and the firewall is off.
>
> Checking booting the antiX on another system which has a different 
> Atheros chipset and uses ath5k instead of ath9k, I have the same 
> problem.  It takes about 4 attempts to get a LAN IP using the passphrase 
> type WPA, then after I get the LAN IP I can't ping 8.8.8.8 nor 
> 192.168.1.1 but I can ping 127.0.0.1.  Firewall off.

I do not run Ubuntu, If your install has systemd/journalctl then click
up a terminal,
   sudo -i
   journalctl -fa --no-pager


In another root terminal run      route -n     once you think you have
a wifi connection.

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#193382

Bit Twister wrote:

> I do not run Ubuntu,

antiX is based on Deb + WMs & some tools.

If your install has systemd/journalctl then click
> up a terminal,
>    sudo -i
>    journalctl -fa --no-pager

Nope.  sudo -i shifted to root then the journalctl...

... command not found

> In another root terminal run      route -n     once you think you have
> a wifi connection.

Well I wouldn't call it a connection.  I get a LAN IP that can only 
connect to/ ping/ 127.0.0.1

I can't cut & paste the route -n info because the machine is isolated, 
so I'll just type it out with CSV; make that commas + space

Headings:
Destination, Gateway, Genmask, Flags, Metric, Ref, Use, Iface
Values 2 lines:
0.0.0.0, 192.168.1.1, 0.0.0.0, UG, 0, 0, 0. wlan0
192.168.1.0, 0.0.0.0, 255.255.255.0, U, 0, 0, 0, wlan0




-- 
Mike Easter

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#193384

On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:08:51 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
> Bit Twister wrote:
>
>> I do not run Ubuntu,
>
> antiX is based on Deb + WMs & some tools.
>
> If your install has systemd/journalctl then click
>> up a terminal,
>>    sudo -i
>>    journalctl -fa --no-pager
>
> Nope.  sudo -i shifted to root then the journalctl...
>
> ... command not found
>
>> In another root terminal run      route -n     once you think you have
>> a wifi connection.
>
> Well I wouldn't call it a connection.  I get a LAN IP that can only 
> connect to/ ping/ 127.0.0.1
>
> I can't cut & paste the route -n info because the machine is isolated, 
> so I'll just type it out with CSV; make that commas + space
>
> Headings:
> Destination, Gateway, Genmask,      Flags, Metric, Ref, Use, Iface
> Values 2 lines:
> 0.0.0.0    192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0,    UG  0  0  0   wlan0
> 192.168.1.0  0.0.0.0     255.255.255.0, U  0  0  0   wlan0

Looks about right.  All traffic will go out the Gateway on wlan0

How about  the output from
  cat /etc/resolv.conf

First nameserver will do any name to ip resolving. You might try
    traceroute -In 206.190.36.45
to see how far you can get out onto the network going to yahoo.com.

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#193386

Bit Twister wrote:
> Looks about right.  All traffic will go out the Gateway on wlan0

Except I can't even ping the gateway/router IP.  It normally answers pings.

> How about  the output from
>   cat /etc/resolv.conf

When I get the LAN IP, I get the provider's 2 DHCP DNS OK.  Naturally I 
can't ping them either.  I generally add some additional other DNS per 
system as opposed to at the router.

> First nameserver will do any name to ip resolving. You might try
>     traceroute -In 206.190.36.45
> to see how far you can get out onto the network going to yahoo.com.

No traceroute utility available in the default live antiX.

Usually the traceroute first hop is the router; since I can't ping it, I 
suppose that if I HAD a traceroute I wouldn't see anything.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193391

On Thu, 27 Oct 2016 17:53:32 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
> Bit Twister wrote:
>> Looks about right.  All traffic will go out the Gateway on wlan0
>
> Except I can't even ping the gateway/router IP.  It normally answers pings.

Well I suggest logging into the router and see what you can see about
who is connected and whatever you can see in the logs.

>> How about  the output from
>>   cat /etc/resolv.conf
>
> When I get the LAN IP, I get the provider's 2 DHCP DNS OK.  Naturally I 
> can't ping them either.

Well that bites.

> I generally add some additional other DNS per system as opposed to
> at the router.


I hope you know the first entry wins if it responds. The rest are
never used unless the one before it fails to respond.

>
> No traceroute utility available in the default live antiX.
>
> Usually the traceroute first hop is the router; since I can't ping it, I 
> suppose that if I HAD a traceroute I wouldn't see anything.

Not necessarily so. Pings can be blocked whereas traceroute -In could
get you a response.

My guess is you will find that the router logs indicate a failed login
attempt.

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#193444

Mike Easter wrote:
> I'm trying to get antiX 16 wifi up on an Acer AO722 (cpu AMD C-60, 4G
> ram) which has wifi Atheros chipset and driver ath9k.

I solved my antiX wifi problem.

I created an (another) antiX USB stick using a live antiX's antiX2usb 
tool which has options to provide antiX-type persistence.

With persistence, I was able to get the wifi configuration saved so that 
it could come up on live boot.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#193445

On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 07:20:55 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:

> Mike Easter wrote:
>> I'm trying to get antiX 16 wifi up on an Acer AO722 (cpu AMD C-60, 4G
>> ram) which has wifi Atheros chipset and driver ath9k.
> 
> I solved my antiX wifi problem.
> 
> I created an (another) antiX USB stick using a live antiX's antiX2usb 
> tool which has options to provide antiX-type persistence.
> 
> With persistence, I was able to get the wifi configuration saved so that 
> it could come up on live boot.

Sounds like massive kludge.
But then again so is Linux.

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#193447 — Buh bye

Skippy Fandango wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

>

Jesus, this blubbering fool won't STFU.   Like a herpes infection that
won't go away.

-- 
Familiarity breeds contempt -- and children.
		-- Mark Twain

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