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Samba? What a freaking joke

Started byScurvy McRicketts <scurvymcricketts@teachers.org>
First post2015-07-10 19:31 -0400
Last post2015-07-13 09:26 -0400
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  Samba? What a freaking joke Scurvy McRicketts <scurvymcricketts@teachers.org> - 2015-07-10 19:31 -0400
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke deep - 2015-07-10 17:59 -0600
      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-10 20:12 -0400
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-11 03:30 +0000
          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-07-11 15:06 +0100
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-11 00:27 +0000
      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-10 20:33 -0400
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-10 23:01 -0400
          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-07-11 15:05 +0100
            Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-11 11:36 -0500
              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-11 18:45 +0200
                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-11 13:50 -0500
                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-11 23:09 -0400
                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-11 23:17 -0400
                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-12 05:59 +0200
                        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 00:09 -0400
                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 15:49 +0000
                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 12:14 -0400
                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:05 +0200
                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 13:26 -0400
                        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:59 +0200
                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-12 16:56 -0500
                        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-13 00:45 +0200
                          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-12 20:10 -0500
                            Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-13 03:52 +0200
                              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-13 08:55 -0500
                                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-07-13 10:10 -0400
                                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-13 09:43 -0500
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-07-13 11:48 -0400
                                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-13 11:14 -0500
                                        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2015-07-13 10:43 -0700
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-13 11:18 -0500
                                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-13 13:38 -0400
                                        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-13 12:57 -0500
                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2015-07-12 10:29 -0700
                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 17:56 +0000
                        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2015-07-12 11:38 -0700
                          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 19:11 +0000
                            Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 15:22 -0400
                              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Godzilla <godzilla@lizardboss.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:58 +0000
                              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 20:32 +0000
                                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-12 22:48 +0200
                                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 20:51 +0000
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:30 +0200
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-12 19:27 -0500
                                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 17:31 -0400
                                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 21:32 +0000
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net> - 2015-07-12 17:08 -0700
                              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-12 22:36 +0200
                                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 17:41 -0400
                                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:35 +0200
                              Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 17:58 -0400
                                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 18:06 -0400
                                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:37 +0200
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-07-12 19:08 -0400
                                Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-07-13 00:37 +0200
                                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> - 2015-07-12 19:30 -0400
                                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.invalid> - 2015-07-12 23:42 +0000
                                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-07-13 04:07 +0200
                            Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2015-07-12 13:08 -0700
                    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2015-07-12 12:52 -0500
                      Re: Samba? What a freaking joke DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2015-07-12 14:03 -0400
                  Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2015-07-12 15:54 +0000
          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-07-11 14:52 -0500
        Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-11 03:32 +0000
          Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-12 02:41 +0000
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-07-11 03:31 +0000
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2015-07-12 09:03 -0500
    Re: Samba? What a freaking joke ceed <ceed@is.indeed.invalid> - 2015-07-13 09:26 -0400

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#177578

FromDan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid>
Date2015-07-12 20:32 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmq5jp5.j6k.DanP@XPS-Linux.djph.net>
In reply to#177565
On 2015-07-12, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> [snip...]
>
> Unless you are interested in becoming a system admin, and that's
> great, you are going backwards in time.
> For an end user the CLI is living on borrowed time.

Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
the terminal than 

1. Open gedit (etc.)
2. File -> Open ... 
3. Navigate to file location...

> And please don't misunderstand, I 100 percent support the CLI and
> hope it never goes away and in that context Linux rules the roost,
> but unless you are interested in scripting and so forth, devote your
> cycles towards moving forward in time by like a decade or so.

Helps with my dayjob anyway.  Not a "sysadmin" by any means, but we rely
heavily on ssh, both for "speed" reasons (webUI is slow), and the simple
fact that you can hop around in one or two sessions, rather than needing
to log into 3 or 4 or 5 different webUIs.

> SLRN is a joke these days.
> Of course the Linux crowd uses it as some kind of badge of "success"
> when your User-Agent field says slrn, but that's about it.

Do you have a better CLI option then?

> [snip...]

> My guess is you will spend a week trying to figure out how to create
> a .jnewsrc and a proper NNTP environment variable because chances are
> you don't have your own registered domain.

Looks like it took about an hour, all told (assuming this posts, I can
_read_ things fine.  Maybe you shouldn't assume things about people.

>  BTW USENET is on life support so I would devote my time to learning
> shell scripting.
> Very useful indeed.

What's "Usenet being on life support" have to do with anything.  If it
dies, then it dies ... and people go off to somewhere else.  

Though with that said, there are very few places these days that have
not fallen to the stance of "get as many luddite eyes as possible", so
I'm sure there will kind of always be some dark corner of the internet
where tech-savvy people congregate.  Just takes some looking ... 

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#177582

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2015-07-12 22:48 +0200
Message-ID<55a2d292$0$2933$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#177578
Op 12-07-15 om 22:32 schreef Dan Purgert:
> Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
> ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
> my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
> the terminal than
>
> 1. Open gedit (etc.)
> 2. File -> Open ...
> 3. Navigate to file location...

Although I generally agree with your assessment of the CLI I can 
recommend using QuickLaunch to find the document and then a single click 
to open it with the/an associated application like Kate.

It's many years ago I would open a file via the application.

Yes that's KDE stuff.

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#177583

FromDan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid>
Date2015-07-12 20:51 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmq5ku6.j6k.DanP@XPS-Linux.djph.net>
In reply to#177582
On 2015-07-12, Dirk T. Verbeek <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Op 12-07-15 om 22:32 schreef Dan Purgert:
>> Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
>> ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
>> my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
>> the terminal than
>>
>> 1. Open gedit (etc.)
>> 2. File -> Open ...
>> 3. Navigate to file location...
>
> Although I generally agree with your assessment of the CLI I can 
> recommend using QuickLaunch to find the document and then a single click 
> to open it with the/an associated application like Kate.
>
> It's many years ago I would open a file via the application.
>
> Yes that's KDE stuff.

Well, yeah, there's always the "find the file using nautilus" (or
whatever your file manager happens to be) option too.  But then I
invariably forget to run it with sudo / gksu, and it whines that I'm not
allowed to edit the file ... 

But seriously, the whole point of *nix (and UNIX-like systems in
general) is pretty much "a million and one ways to get to the correct
answer".

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#177608

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2015-07-13 00:30 +0200
Message-ID<55a2ea8d$0$2845$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#177583
Op 12-07-15 om 22:51 schreef Dan Purgert:
> On 2015-07-12, Dirk T. Verbeek <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>> Op 12-07-15 om 22:32 schreef Dan Purgert:
>>> Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
>>> ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
>>> my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
>>> the terminal than
>>>
>>> 1. Open gedit (etc.)
>>> 2. File -> Open ...
>>> 3. Navigate to file location...
>>
>> Although I generally agree with your assessment of the CLI I can
>> recommend using QuickLaunch to find the document and then a single click
>> to open it with the/an associated application like Kate.
>>
>> It's many years ago I would open a file via the application.
>>
>> Yes that's KDE stuff.
>
> Well, yeah, there's always the "find the file using nautilus" (or
> whatever your file manager happens to be) option too.  But then I
> invariably forget to run it with sudo / gksu, and it whines that I'm not
> allowed to edit the file ...
>
> But seriously, the whole point of *nix (and UNIX-like systems in
> general) is pretty much "a million and one ways to get to the correct
> answer".
>
True, and that keeps the idiots at a distance :)

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#177638

From"Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid>
Date2015-07-12 19:27 -0500
Message-ID<20150712192756.17c35c84@wizardstower>
In reply to#177583
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:51:59 +0000 (UTC)
Dan Purgert <"Dan P"@djph.invalid> wrote:

> the whole point of *nix (and UNIX-like systems in
> general) is pretty much "a million and one ways to get to the correct
> answer".

...and all are correct.

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
Nice computers don't go down.
	Larry Niven, Steven Barnes
		"The Barsoom Project"

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#177585

FromTomas <tgif9fri@numo.net>
Date2015-07-12 17:31 -0400
Message-ID<1hbjzxbs508wy.wuh371kgzkxz.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#177578
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:32:14 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:

> On 2015-07-12, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>>
>> [snip...]
>>
>> Unless you are interested in becoming a system admin, and that's
>> great, you are going backwards in time.
>> For an end user the CLI is living on borrowed time.
> 
> Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
> ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
> my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
> the terminal than 
> 
> 1. Open gedit (etc.)
> 2. File -> Open ... 
> 3. Navigate to file location...

Does gedit have automatic line wrap yet?

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#177586

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.invalid>
Date2015-07-12 21:32 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmq5nah.jgr.dan@XPS-Linux.djph.net>
In reply to#177585
On 2015-07-12, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:32:14 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> On 2015-07-12, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip...]
>>>
>>> Unless you are interested in becoming a system admin, and that's
>>> great, you are going backwards in time.
>>> For an end user the CLI is living on borrowed time.
>> 
>> Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
>> ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
>> my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
>> the terminal than 
>> 
>> 1. Open gedit (etc.)
>> 2. File -> Open ... 
>> 3. Navigate to file location...
>
> Does gedit have automatic line wrap yet?

Looks like the only "line wrap" is has is to wrap a line to the width of
the currently open window; though it does not appear to have a "wrap at
## characters, regardless of window size" option.

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#177635

From"jeff g." <jeff.g.group@att.net>
Date2015-07-12 17:08 -0700
Message-ID<mnuvfe$o6j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#177586
On 07/12/2015 02:32 PM, Dan Purgert wrote:
> On 2015-07-12, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:32:14 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-07-12, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 19:11:22 +0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip...]
>>>>
>>>> Unless you are interested in becoming a system admin, and that's
>>>> great, you are going backwards in time.
>>>> For an end user the CLI is living on borrowed time.
>>>
>>> Funny, I've learned / accomplished more with linux and the CLI than I
>>> ever would have if I stuck with GUI-only.  It's just faster (at least in
>>> my experience) to be able to type "vi [somefile]" after poking around in
>>> the terminal than
>>>
>>> 1. Open gedit (etc.)
>>> 2. File -> Open ...
>>> 3. Navigate to file location...
>>
>> Does gedit have automatic line wrap yet?
>
> Looks like the only "line wrap" is has is to wrap a line to the width of
> the currently open window; though it does not appear to have a "wrap at
> ## characters, regardless of window size" option.
>

it does:

edit>preferences>view
2nd choice (I think)
display right margin at [xx]

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#177579

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2015-07-12 22:36 +0200
Message-ID<55a2cfb0$0$2836$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#177565
Op 12-07-15 om 21:22 schreef Tomas:
> SLRN is a joke these days.
> Of course the Linux crowd uses it as some kind of badge of "success"
> when your User-Agent field says slrn, but that's about it.

Oh?
I can run SLRN on my ISP's shell server and the config has been in place 
since ~15 years!
This is when on the road and with rather low bandwidth a real God-sent.

They've just installed another bunch of Terra byte servers to double 
retention time (for the spammers and other trolls), whatever you call 
life support :)

Oh man, you are SO out of touch that you sound like a Windows user...

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#177587

FromTomas <tgif9fri@numo.net>
Date2015-07-12 17:41 -0400
Message-ID<1q5nlbtu4fsjs$.9aoqycprjt4d$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#177579
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 22:36:00 +0200, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:

> Op 12-07-15 om 21:22 schreef Tomas:
>> SLRN is a joke these days.
>> Of course the Linux crowd uses it as some kind of badge of "success"
>> when your User-Agent field says slrn, but that's about it.
> 
> Oh?
> I can run SLRN on my ISP's shell server and the config has been in place 
> since ~15 years!
> This is when on the road and with rather low bandwidth a real God-sent.

Still using that US Robotics Modem are you?


 
> They've just installed another bunch of Terra byte servers to double 
> retention time (for the spammers and other trolls), whatever you call 
> life support :)
> 
> Oh man, you are SO out of touch that you sound like a Windows user...

They installed those servers for pirates downloading binaries not
text news groups like aolu etc.

Think Newsbin, or Newsleecher not slrn.

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#177609

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2015-07-13 00:35 +0200
Message-ID<55a2ebc2$0$2862$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#177587
Op 12-07-15 om 23:41 schreef Tomas:
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 22:36:00 +0200, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>
>> Op 12-07-15 om 21:22 schreef Tomas:
>>> SLRN is a joke these days.
>>> Of course the Linux crowd uses it as some kind of badge of "success"
>>> when your User-Agent field says slrn, but that's about it.
>>
>> Oh?
>> I can run SLRN on my ISP's shell server and the config has been in place
>> since ~15 years!
>> This is when on the road and with rather low bandwidth a real God-sent.
>
> Still using that US Robotics Modem are you?

Yes it happens.
See, I travel and not all the world is wired up like Redmond.
>
>
>
>> They've just installed another bunch of Terra byte servers to double
>> retention time (for the spammers and other trolls), whatever you call
>> life support :)
>>
>> Oh man, you are SO out of touch that you sound like a Windows user...
>
> They installed those servers for pirates downloading binaries not
> text news groups like aolu etc.

Who cares, the text groups are available, of course except the ones 
Microsoft got afraid of and killed off years ago.
>
> Think Newsbin, or Newsleecher not slrn.
Beside the point, we're talking about communications not sharing.
>

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#177592

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2015-07-12 17:58 -0400
Message-ID<coo5qahq9onkst3so616m3g34j7o3fle2v@4ax.com>
In reply to#177565
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:22:19 -0400, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> Gave us:

>For an end user the CLI is living on borrowed time.

  You are an idiot.

  Open a file manager.  Ever wonder why some directories are write
protected?

  Now, how does one open a file manager with root privilege so as to
access those directories with the privilege of authorship?
  Oh, that's right, Tomas the total retard has no clue what security is.

  Oh...  That's right...  using sudo and a root password and the CLI!

  As in "sudo thunar" etc.

  You are such a fucking loser because you do not have the first clue
what security is, much less why the standard desktop has certain things
segregated *away* from point and click access.

  Essentially, Tomas the total retard strikes again with lies and utter
stupidity.

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#177598

FromTomas <tgif9fri@numo.net>
Date2015-07-12 18:06 -0400
Message-ID<x7yciup3026v.b8wv4b1vjqg0$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#177592
On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:58:39 -0400, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

> On Sun, 12 Jul 2015 15:22:19 -0400, Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> Gave us:
> 
>>For an end user the CLI is living on borrowed time.
> 
>   You are an idiot.

Yet you seem to be the one continuously making an ass of yourself.

 
>   Open a file manager.  Ever wonder why some directories are write
> protected?

And Joe user needs to do this exactly when?

>   Now, how does one open a file manager with root privilege so as to
> access those directories with the privilege of authorship?

Windows pops up a window asking me for the administrator password.
Easy.
Linux?
You tell me.


>   Oh, that's right, Tomas the total retard has no clue what security is.

Of course I do.
Do you?

 
>   Oh...  That's right...  using sudo and a root password and the CLI!

I use sudo all the time.
Don't have to under Windows, although technically it accomplishes the
same thing.
See above.

Your point?
 
>   As in "sudo thunar" etc.

thunar?
Is that the file manager that runs as slow as a snail?
 
>   You are such a fucking loser because you do not have the first clue
> what security is, much less why the standard desktop has certain things
> segregated *away* from point and click access.

Yawn.
Classic Linux loon attempting to flex his muscles and call the other
98.5 percent of computer users idiots because they don't need to use
all your cryptic commands.
Laughable at best.

 
>   Essentially, Tomas the total retard strikes again with lies and utter
> stupidity.

More like I poked the hive.
And you know it.

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#177611

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2015-07-13 00:37 +0200
Message-ID<55a2ec42$0$2862$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#177598
Op 13-07-15 om 00:06 schreef Tomas:
> Windows pops up a window asking me for the administrator password.
> Easy.
> Linux?
> You tell me.
Try Kubuntu.

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#177620

FromTomas <tgif9fri@numo.net>
Date2015-07-12 19:08 -0400
Message-ID<1eggp1aytm56y.1ib18i7kmjlpd.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#177611
On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 00:37:54 +0200, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:

> Op 13-07-15 om 00:06 schreef Tomas:
>> Windows pops up a window asking me for the administrator password.
>> Easy.
>> Linux?
>> You tell me.
> Try Kubuntu.

Been there and done that.
Kubuntu is horrible.

LinuxMint 17.x is tolerable.

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#177610

From"Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl>
Date2015-07-13 00:37 +0200
Message-ID<55a2ec24$0$2862$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#177592
Op 12-07-15 om 23:58 schreef DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno:
>    Now, how does one open a file manager with root privilege so as to
> access those directories with the privilege of authorship?

Yes Tomas is not too bright but opening up as sudo is in Kubuntu just a 
right click away :)

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#177626

FromCaver1 <caver1@inthemud.org>
Date2015-07-12 19:30 -0400
Message-ID<mnut89$i77$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#177610
On 07/12/2015 06:37 PM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> Op 12-07-15 om 23:58 schreef DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno:
>>     Now, how does one open a file manager with root privilege so as to
>> access those directories with the privilege of authorship?
>
> Yes Tomas is not too bright but opening up as sudo is in Kubuntu just a
> right click away :)
>

And Ubuntu.  ;-)

-- 
Caver1

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#177630

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.invalid>
Date2015-07-12 23:42 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmq5ut2.jvr.dan@XPS-Linux.djph.net>
In reply to#177626
On 2015-07-12, Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:
> On 07/12/2015 06:37 PM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>> Op 12-07-15 om 23:58 schreef DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno:
>>>     Now, how does one open a file manager with root privilege so as to
>>> access those directories with the privilege of authorship?
>>
>> Yes Tomas is not too bright but opening up as sudo is in Kubuntu just a
>> right click away :)
>>
>
> And Ubuntu.  ;-)
>
And Mint. 

Had to check though ... never really use the GUI file manager to get
anywhere / do anything.

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#177678

FromAragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Date2015-07-13 04:07 +0200
Message-ID<mnv6e5$hm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#177630
On Monday 13 Jul 2015 01:42, Dan Purgert conveyed the following to 
alt.os.linux.ubuntu...

> On 2015-07-12, Caver1 <caver1@inthemud.org> wrote:
>
>> On 07/12/2015 06:37 PM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>>
>>> Op 12-07-15 om 23:58 schreef DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno:
>>>
>>>>     Now, how does one open a file manager with root privilege so as
>>>> to access those directories with the privilege of authorship?
>>>
>>> Yes Tomas is not too bright but opening up as sudo is in Kubuntu
>>> just a right click away :)
>>
>> And Ubuntu.  ;-)
>>
> And Mint.

And any other GNU/Linux distro, and any of the BSDs, and openIndiana, 
and IRIX, and any other POSIX system, including OS X.

> Had to check though ... never really use the GUI file manager to get
> anywhere / do anything.

Personally, I rarely ever use root privileges at all ─ I don't see what 
I would need them for in my normal day-to-day activity on my own machine 
[*] ─ but if and when I do need root privileges, then I will use the 
command line, for several reasons.

 1. It's significantly more powerful.

 2. It's significantly faster.

 3. It's more difficult to slip up while typing up a command than when
    you're using the mouse.  A mouse slip with root privileges can
    seriously damage your system.  A typo in a shell command can be
    easily corrected, and you can always test the command you're about
    to execute by typing "echo" in front of it.  Comes in very handy
    when testing scripts.


[*] In Microsoft Windows, you do regularly need "Administrator"
    privileges ─ unless your regular user account is already set up
    as an administrative account ─ because Windows was never designed
    with security in mind.  Hell, it was never even designed to be
    an actual operating system.  And now that it _is_ an operating
    system, it's still the worst one ever designed, even 20+ years
    after porting the Windows API to the NT kernel.

-- 
= Aragorn =

         http://www.linuxcounter.net - registrant #223157

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#177572

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2015-07-12 13:08 -0700
Message-ID<2L-dnU5Wfcm_VD_InZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#177562
On 2015-07-12, Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> wrote:

> In a somewhat related vein - is there a "How to use slrn for dummies" 
> book/tutorial out there?  Been using Pan for however long, but I'm 
> finding as I'm getting more accustomed to the terminal, I like having 
> command-line options alongside my graphical go-tos... 

http://slrn.sourceforge.net/docs/slrn-manual.html

And you can just ask here. Bit Twister knows it much better than I do. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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