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  New Slackware version Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 11:41 +0000
    Re: New Slackware version Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-08-23 03:57 +0000
      Re: New Slackware version Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-23 09:49 -0400
        Re: New Slackware version Doug713705 <doug.letough@free.fr> - 2015-08-24 18:30 +0200
          Re: New Slackware version noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-25 09:51 +1000
            Re: New Slackware version "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldi@notaserver.com> - 2015-08-24 21:50 -0500
              Re: New Slackware version Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-08-25 11:27 -0400
              Re: New Slackware version noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2015-08-26 11:10 +1000
                Re: New Slackware version Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:35 +0000
            Re: New Slackware version "Mr. Mxyztplk" <user@foobar.com.invalid> - 2015-09-04 17:19 +0000
        Re: New Slackware version Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> - 2015-08-28 03:26 +0000
          Re: New Slackware version Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 11:07 +0000
            Re: New Slackware version "Cpt (aka Cor Takken)" <cpt@cpt1.nospampleasedemon.nl> - 2015-12-29 16:38 +0100
              Re: New Slackware version John McCue <jmccue@jmclin0.bstnma.east.verizon.net> - 2015-12-29 19:58 +0000
              Re: New Slackware version Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2015-12-29 15:05 -0500
                Re: New Slackware version "Cpt (aka Cor Takken)" <cpt@cpt1.nospampleasedemon.nl> - 2015-12-30 09:47 +0100
            Re: New Slackware version King Beowulf <kingbeowulf@nomail.com> - 2016-01-01 19:08 +0000
              Re: New Slackware version andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> - 2016-01-01 21:50 +0000
                Re: New Slackware version Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-01 22:26 +0000
                  Re: New Slackware version Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-01-01 23:43 -0500
                    Re: New Slackware version Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-02 07:14 +0000
                      Re: New Slackware version Peter Chant <pete@petezilla.co.uk> - 2016-01-02 12:50 +0000
            Re: New Slackware version Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@gmail.com> - 2016-01-13 09:39 +0000
              Re: New Slackware version noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> - 2016-01-13 23:41 +1000
                Re: New Slackware version Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> - 2016-01-13 19:34 +0000

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#25384 — New Slackware version

It seems, from the latest set of updates to -current, that a new
release is getting nearer:
> Fri Aug 21 21:17:48 UTC 2015
> a/aaa_elflibs-14.2-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
> a/dosfstools-3.0.28-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
> a/etc-14.2-i586-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
        ^^^^
and that the version will be 14.2 (see the version of aaa_elflibs
too).
So maybe someone should start a new "fun and games" competition for
the release date (and no, I'm NOT volunteering for that).

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#25385

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:41:30 +0000, Eef Hartman wrote:

> It seems, from the latest set of updates to -current, that a new release
> is getting nearer:
>> Fri Aug 21 21:17:48 UTC 2015 a/aaa_elflibs-14.2-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
>> a/dosfstools-3.0.28-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
>> a/etc-14.2-i586-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
>         ^^^^
> and that the version will be 14.2 (see the version of aaa_elflibs too).
> So maybe someone should start a new "fun and games" competition for the
> release date (and no, I'm NOT volunteering for that).

Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)


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#25388

On Sat, 23 Aug 2015, Dan C wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:41:30 +0000, Eef Hartman wrote:
>
>> It seems, from the latest set of updates to -current, that a new release
>> is getting nearer:
>>> Fri Aug 21 21:17:48 UTC 2015 a/aaa_elflibs-14.2-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
>>> a/dosfstools-3.0.28-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
>>> a/etc-14.2-i586-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
>>         ^^^^
>> and that the version will be 14.2 (see the version of aaa_elflibs too).
>> So maybe someone should start a new "fun and games" competition for the
>> release date (and no, I'm NOT volunteering for that).
>
> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>
Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major release 
seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have slowed down 
upstream enough that the time between major releases will increase.

Of course, if he's not careful, we'll end up with having to make a jump at 
some point, when the other distributions have much bigger release numbers, 
making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.

   Michael

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#25399

Le 23-08-2015, Michael Black nous expliquait dans 
alt.os.linux.slackware
(<alpine.LNX.2.02.1508230946400.14860@darkstar.example.org>) :

> making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.

Who cares ? ;-)

-- 
Mais l'ombre des plaisirs s'enfuit
Toujours plus loin vers l'inconnu.
                    -- H.F. Thiéfaine, La môme kaléïdoscope

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#25408

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:30:21 +0200, Doug713705 wrote:

> Le 23-08-2015, Michael Black nous expliquait dans alt.os.linux.slackware
> (<alpine.LNX.2.02.1508230946400.14860@darkstar.example.org>) :
> 
>> making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.
> 
> Who cares ? ;-)

+1

 if I want upgrades every 3 f'n months  i'll go use fuckbuntu or fedora
I enjoy the stable by-default LTS that is every slackware release.

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#25409

noel decreed, Read These Runes!:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:30:21 +0200, Doug713705 wrote:
> 
>> Le 23-08-2015, Michael Black nous expliquait dans alt.os.linux.slackware
>> (<alpine.LNX.2.02.1508230946400.14860@darkstar.example.org>) :
>> 
>>> making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.
>> 
>> Who cares ? ;-)
> 
> +1
> 
>  if I want upgrades every 3 f'n months  i'll go use fuckbuntu or fedora
> I enjoy the stable by-default LTS that is every slackware release.

I think Pat does, kinda.  That was his justification to jump from like 4
to 7 or whatever it was way back then... Ah! (Wiki)

In 1999, Slackware's release number jumped from 4 to 7. Patrick
Volkerding explained this as a marketing effort to show that Slackware
was as up-to-date as other Linux distributions, many of which had
release numbers of 6 at the time, and Volkerding expected them to reach
version 7 by the time of the jump.


Rinaldi
-- 
One Page Principle:
	A specification that will not fit on one page of 8.5x11 inch
paper cannot be understood.
		-- Mark Ardis

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#25411

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:

> noel decreed, Read These Runes!:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:30:21 +0200, Doug713705 wrote:
>>
>>> Le 23-08-2015, Michael Black nous expliquait dans alt.os.linux.slackware
>>> (<alpine.LNX.2.02.1508230946400.14860@darkstar.example.org>) :
>>>
>>>> making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.
>>>
>>> Who cares ? ;-)
>>
>> +1
>>
>>  if I want upgrades every 3 f'n months  i'll go use fuckbuntu or fedora
>> I enjoy the stable by-default LTS that is every slackware release.
>
> I think Pat does, kinda.  That was his justification to jump from like 4
> to 7 or whatever it was way back then... Ah! (Wiki)
>
WHich is why I brought it up.  Since it did happen, I suspect it can 
happen again.

    Michael

> In 1999, Slackware's release number jumped from 4 to 7. Patrick
> Volkerding explained this as a marketing effort to show that Slackware
> was as up-to-date as other Linux distributions, many of which had
> release numbers of 6 at the time, and Volkerding expected them to reach
> version 7 by the time of the jump.
>
>
> Rinaldi
> -- 
> One Page Principle:
> 	A specification that will not fit on one page of 8.5x11 inch
> paper cannot be understood.
> 		-- Mark Ardis
>

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#25414

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:50:45 -0500, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:

> noel decreed, Read These Runes!:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:30:21 +0200, Doug713705 wrote:
>> 
>>> Le 23-08-2015, Michael Black nous expliquait dans
>>> alt.os.linux.slackware
>>> (<alpine.LNX.2.02.1508230946400.14860@darkstar.example.org>) :
>>> 
>>>> making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.
>>> 
>>> Who cares ? ;-)
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>>  if I want upgrades every 3 f'n months  i'll go use fuckbuntu or fedora
>> I enjoy the stable by-default LTS that is every slackware release.
> 
> I think Pat does, kinda.  That was his justification to jump from like 4
> to 7 or whatever it was way back then... Ah! (Wiki)
> 
> In 1999, Slackware's release number jumped from 4 to 7. Patrick
> Volkerding explained this as a marketing effort to show that Slackware
> was as up-to-date as other Linux distributions, many of which had
> release numbers of 6 at the time, and Volkerding expected them to reach
> version 7 by the time of the jump.
> 
> 
> Rinaldi

Yes, I know about that back then, but this aint 1999, its 2015, what 
applied then, doesnt now and with fukbuntu and fedora its just getting 
worse, however slackware is not in the same category as them, its more 
inline with RHEL, SEL, and debian -all of whom have versions way lower 
than ours. Even opensuse's version is lower and they dont show any signs 
of suffering - though have always tended to be more widely used in Europe 
than elsewhere.

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#26101

noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote:
> Even opensuse's version is lower and they dont show any signs 
> of suffering - though have always tended to be more widely used
> in Europe than elsewhere.

Actually, it is not, current version of openSUSE LEAP is 42.1,
now THEY made the big leap (the 2.1 is for SLE 12 SP 1 compatibility,
the 4 is just for fun).
But LEAP 42.1 _is_ the successor to openSUSE 13.2 (and was released
just about a year later).

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#25451

noel <deletethis@invalin.lan> wrote in news:55dbadff$1@news.ausics.net:

> 
> +1
> 
>  if I want upgrades every 3 f'n months  i'll go use fuckbuntu or fedora
> I enjoy the stable by-default LTS that is every slackware release.
> 

+2
yes

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#25433

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:49:49 -0400, Michael Black wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Aug 2015, Dan C wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:41:30 +0000, Eef Hartman wrote:
>>
>>> It seems, from the latest set of updates to -current, that a new
>>> release is getting nearer:
>>>> Fri Aug 21 21:17:48 UTC 2015 a/aaa_elflibs-14.2-i586-1.txz: 
>>>> Upgraded.
>>>> a/dosfstools-3.0.28-i586-1.txz:  Upgraded.
>>>> a/etc-14.2-i586-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
>>>         ^^^^
>>> and that the version will be 14.2 (see the version of aaa_elflibs
>>> too). So maybe someone should start a new "fun and games" competition
>>> for the release date (and no, I'm NOT volunteering for that).
>>
>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>>
> Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major
> release seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have
> slowed down upstream enough that the time between major releases will
> increase.
> 
> Of course, if he's not careful, we'll end up with having to make a jump
> at some point, when the other distributions have much bigger release
> numbers,
> making Slackware look like it's not been updated in a long time.

...which has happened before...



-- 
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"Bother!" said Pooh, as he rolled off the prostitute.
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#26037

Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>>>
>> Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major
>> release seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have
>> slowed down upstream enough that the time between major releases will
>> increase.

And now we _really_ seem to be close to the next release, Pat just
released the new version of "a/aaa_base-14.2", so with a 14.2 version
number, with as comment:
> Bumped version to 14.2
so I'm now expecting Slackware 14.2 within a few weeks.

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#26039

On 29-12-15 12:07, Eef Hartman wrote:
> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>>>>
>>> Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major
>>> release seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have
>>> slowed down upstream enough that the time between major releases will
>>> increase.
>
> And now we _really_ seem to be close to the next release, Pat just
> released the new version of "a/aaa_base-14.2", so with a 14.2 version
> number, with as comment:
>> Bumped version to 14.2
> so I'm now expecting Slackware 14.2 within a few weeks.
>
Probably at Valentines day: that being 14-2, and adding up 14 and 2 
gives: 16 which is F in hexadecimal, and... and... well.. that's just it 
I think. I could go on with declaring our lurv for Slackware and such 
but that would be too tacky, wouldn't it?

Cpt

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#26040

"Cpt (aka Cor Takken)" <cpt@cpt1.nospampleasedemon.nl> wrote:
> On 29-12-15 12:07, Eef Hartman wrote:
>> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
<snip>
> Probably at Valentines day: that being 14-2, and adding up 14 and 2 
> gives: 16 which is F in hexadecimal, and... and... well.. that's just it 
> I think. I could go on with declaring our lurv for Slackware and such 
> but that would be too tacky, wouldn't it?

Actually I am hoping for Feb 29 :)

> 
> Cpt

John

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#26041

On Tuesday December 29 2015 10:38, in alt.os.linux.slackware, "Cpt (aka Cor
Takken)" <cpt@cpt1.nospampleasedemon.nl> wrote:

> On 29-12-15 12:07, Eef Hartman wrote:
>> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>>>>>
>>>> Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major
>>>> release seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have
>>>> slowed down upstream enough that the time between major releases will
>>>> increase.
>>
>> And now we _really_ seem to be close to the next release, Pat just
>> released the new version of "a/aaa_base-14.2", so with a 14.2 version
>> number, with as comment:
>>> Bumped version to 14.2
>> so I'm now expecting Slackware 14.2 within a few weeks.
>>
> Probably at Valentines day: that being 14-2, and adding up 14 and 2
> gives: 16 which is F in hexadecimal,

Ahhh..... No.

0xF is 15 in decimal, not 16



> and... and... well.. that's just it 
> I think. I could go on with declaring our lurv for Slackware and such
> but that would be too tacky, wouldn't it?
> 
> Cpt


-- 
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"
PGP public key available upon request

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#26045

On 29-12-15 21:05, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Tuesday December 29 2015 10:38, in alt.os.linux.slackware, "Cpt (aka Cor
> Takken)" <cpt@cpt1.nospampleasedemon.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 29-12-15 12:07, Eef Hartman wrote:
>>> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major
>>>>> release seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have
>>>>> slowed down upstream enough that the time between major releases will
>>>>> increase.
>>>
>>> And now we _really_ seem to be close to the next release, Pat just
>>> released the new version of "a/aaa_base-14.2", so with a 14.2 version
>>> number, with as comment:
>>>> Bumped version to 14.2
>>> so I'm now expecting Slackware 14.2 within a few weeks.
>>>
>> Probably at Valentines day: that being 14-2, and adding up 14 and 2
>> gives: 16 which is F in hexadecimal,
>
> Ahhh..... No.
>
> 0xF is 15 in decimal, not 16

D'oh! Foot in back mouth... again..

>
>
>
>> and... and... well.. that's just it
>> I think. I could go on with declaring our lurv for Slackware and such
>> but that would be too tacky, wouldn't it?
>>
>> Cpt
>
>

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#26046

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:07:31 +0000, Eef Hartman wrote:

> Dan C <youmustbejoking@lan.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Dammit!  I was betting on 15.0!  :)
>>>>
>>> Considering 14.1 came out in early November of 2013, yes, a major
>>> release seems to be overdue.  On the other hand, maybe things have
>>> slowed down upstream enough that the time between major releases will
>>> increase.
> 
> And now we _really_ seem to be close to the next release, Pat just
> released the new version of "a/aaa_base-14.2", so with a 14.2 version
> number, with as comment:
>> Bumped version to 14.2
> so I'm now expecting Slackware 14.2 within a few weeks.

As always:  "it will be ready when it's ready."

I'd be surprised if PV sticks with 14.2, though - far too many updates 
for a minor version bump.
  

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#26047

On 2016-01-01, King Beowulf <kingbeowulf@nomail.com> wrote:

> I'd be surprised if PV sticks with 14.2, though - far too many updates
> for a minor version bump.

My money is still on 15.0 although I have outside money on 42.0 to match
Open Suse :)

Andrew
-- 
Do you think that's air you're breathing?

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#26048

andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> wrote:
>> I'd be surprised if PV sticks with 14.2, though - far too many updates

As he already has issued too many packages in -current with a 14.2
version, my money is still on 14.2

> My money is still on 15.0 although I have outside money on 42.0 to match
> Open Suse :)

openSUSE is already at 42.1 (as to reflect that they using SLE 12 SP1
packages too), so to beat that you would have to go to 42.2 <grin>

And yes, I've got both the SLE-12-SP1-Desktop as well as the openSUSE
Leap-42.1 iso's here:
4601151488 2015-11-26 18:25 SLE-12-SP1-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD1.iso
6712121344 2015-11-26 18:25 SLE-12-SP1-Desktop-DVD-x86_64-GM-DVD2.iso
4648337408 2015-10-30 00:33 openSUSE-Leap-42.1-DVD-x86_64.iso
(I've edited out a few fields as to make it not too wide).

Note that both SLE as well as openSUSE (and RHEL/CentOS 7 too) now only
come in a 64-bit version (and SLE CD2 is too large for single-layer
DVD's). Pat at least is still supporting 32-bit hardware.


I'm still registered as an official SLE (Desktop, the university
doesn't use the server version) support person, so can get (but NOT
redistribute) those SLE images.

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#26049

On Fri, 1 Jan 2016, Eef Hartman wrote:

> andrew <andrew@skamandros.invalid> wrote:
>>> I'd be surprised if PV sticks with 14.2, though - far too many updates
>
> As he already has issued too many packages in -current with a 14.2
> version, my money is still on 14.2
>
Yes.  I think he's catching up, and the next release will be "major" and 
carry "15.0".

I thought a "major" Slackware release depended on some specific major 
parts hitting a major release.

   Michael

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