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  SDF Public Access Unix System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-14 21:09 +0000
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-02-14 17:31 -0500
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-15 11:12 -0800
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-17 19:07 +0000
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> - 2026-02-18 07:50 -0800
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-18 09:45 -0800
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-19 03:15 +0000
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-19 03:49 +0000
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> - 2026-02-19 07:16 -0800
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-05-31 06:57 +0200
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:46 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-05-31 08:11 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-31 17:58 +0000
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:49 +0100
                    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-04 16:09 +0000
                      Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 09:53 +0100
                        Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-05 09:03 +0000
                          Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-06-05 17:28 +0100
                            Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 16:47 +0000
                              Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-05 23:57 +0000
                                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 07:07 -0400
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:59 -0400
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 21:16 +0000
                                    Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:23 +0100
                                      Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:28 -0400
                                        Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:15 +0100
                                        Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                                          Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:11 +0000
                                            Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:58 +0100
                                              Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:21 +0000
                              Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:56 -0400
                                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:11 +0100
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:17 +0000
                                    Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:33 +0000
                                      Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:25 -0400
                                      Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 12:24 -0400
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-07 07:05 +0100
                                    Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 08:04 +0000
                            Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Root Badger <admin@rootbadger.com> - 2026-06-07 18:43 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-01 12:34 -0400
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-01 20:11 +0100
                    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:52 +0100
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-06-01 14:06 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 11:01 +0000
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 09:17 -0700
                    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:30 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-9jk-this> - 2026-06-02 07:25 -0700
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 22:00 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-06-03 19:50 +0200
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 10:11 +0000

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#233946 — SDF Public Access Unix System

https://connect.sdf.org/

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#233947

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

> https://connect.sdf.org/

SDF also hosts the Interim Computer Museum (https://icm.museum).  From the
Wikipedia page:

    The Interim Computer Museum is a non-profit organization based in Tukwila,
    Washington, United States. It focuses on the preservation, restoration, and
    public exhibition of vintage computing hardware and software.

SDF began several decades ago, when the founder was a student at SMU in Dallas, TX.
He was most recently the Engineering manager for Living Computers: Museum+Labs,
and was the last member fo the staff to be let go after the closing and auction
of the collection.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#233954

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:

> https://connect.sdf.org/

You could also connect via gopher.

Daniel
sysop  | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw

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#233956

In article <mvc6kdFl31rU1@mid.individual.net>,
rbowman  <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>https://connect.sdf.org/

I'm a big fan, MetaARPA member. It's not always the most stable in terms
of the extra services they run, but the core is solid. And the museum is
excellent. (I've heard. I *almost* got to go there the last time I was
in Seattle. Soon!)

-- 
Brian "Beej Jorgensen" Hall | beej@beej.us

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#233957

  To: Beej Jorgensen
-=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

 >https://connect.sdf.org/

 BJ> I'm a big fan, MetaARPA member. It's not always the most stable in
 BJ> terms of the extra services they run, but the core is solid. And the
 BJ> museum is excellent. (I've heard. I *almost* got to go there the last
 BJ> time I was in Seattle. Soon!)

 Have you looked at the "tildeverse"?

 Not quite as historical as some of the memories here, but "tildes" are
 usually single *nix boxes supporting a small group of like-minded
 users. They offer shell accounts, email, web, gopher and gemini spaces,
 news and IRC. (The name "tilde" came from ISPs that offered web space
 with isp.net/~username URLs...)

 They've gone modern, some have fediverse spaces now, too. Many seem to
 have roots in SDF.

         kurt weiske | kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org
                     | http://realitycheckbbs.org
                     | 1:218/700@fidonet



 
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#233958

"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> writes:

>  To: Beej Jorgensen
> -=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
>>https://connect.sdf.org/
>
> BJ> I'm a big fan, MetaARPA member. It's not always the most stable in
> BJ> terms of the extra services they run, but the core is solid. And the
> BJ> museum is excellent. (I've heard. I *almost* got to go there the last
> BJ> time I was in Seattle. Soon!)
>
> Have you looked at the "tildeverse"?
>
> Not quite as historical as some of the memories here, but "tildes" are
> usually single *nix boxes supporting a small group of like-minded
> users. They offer shell accounts, email, web, gopher and gemini spaces,
> news and IRC. (The name "tilde" came from ISPs that offered web space
> with isp.net/~username URLs...)
>
> They've gone modern, some have fediverse spaces now, too. Many seem to
> have roots in SDF.

I visit a few tilde gophers often for various reasons. Great commmunity.

Daniel
sysop  | air & wave bbs
finger | calcmandan@bbs.erb.pw

>         kurt weiske | kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org
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>
>
>
>
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#233959

In article <6995DFCA.14762.news.afc@realitycheckbbs.org>,
Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> wrote:
> Have you looked at the "tildeverse"?

I have! It's also great--very much in the nature of the "small web" and
DIY.

> *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org

Excellent... One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a
new BBS from scratch in Rust. :)

-- 
Brian "Beej Jorgensen" Hall | beej@beej.us

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#233960

On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 03:15:09 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen wrote:

> One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a new BBS
> from scratch in Rust. :)

Scratch ... rust ... expose new shiny metal ... leading to more rust
...

... sorry, did I just get into another free-association episode again?

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#233961

  To: Beej Jorgensen
-=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

 > *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org

 BJ> Excellent... One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a
 BJ> new BBS from scratch in Rust. :)

Please do! There are others writing BBSes from scratch and resurrecting
old BBS packages. It's exciting seeing some activity in the scene.


 
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#234811

2026-02-19, Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> wrote:
> -=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
> > *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org
>
>  BJ> Excellent... One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a
>  BJ> new BBS from scratch in Rust. :)
>
> Please do! There are others writing BBSes from scratch and resurrecting
> old BBS packages. It's exciting seeing some activity in the scene.

BBS are quite isolated in terms of "reaching out to the world", I don't see
their appeal compared to hosting/using a pubnix/tilde server loaded to the
brim with Internet-native, text-based tools.

I see BBS as islands designed to serve small geographical areas in the times of
metered dial-up connectivity. For that scenario, they totally made sense.

But there are better options (namely, pubnix and tildes) for partaking in the
smolnet in a world of always-on, universal Internet access.

Why use BBS-siloed message boards, when you can have full USENET access?

Why use FIDO email and convoluted inter-zones gateways, when you can have full
Internet email?

Why use BBS chat rooms, when you have IRC at a global scale?

Why bother publishing anything in a BBS-constrained presence, when you
can publish a Gopher site and instantly be world-reachable?

Now that we have always-on Internet and cheap UNIX-derived/-inspired operating
systems (instead of MS-DOS machines), there are better options than BBS.

-- 
EOT

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#234813

On 2026-05-31, Juancho wrote:

> 2026-02-19, Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> wrote:
>> -=> Beej Jorgensen wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>
>> > *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org
>>
>>  BJ> Excellent... One of my many side projects to never get to is to write a
>>  BJ> new BBS from scratch in Rust. :)
>>
>> Please do! There are others writing BBSes from scratch and resurrecting
>> old BBS packages. It's exciting seeing some activity in the scene.
>
> BBS are quite isolated in terms of "reaching out to the world", I don't see
> their appeal compared to hosting/using a pubnix/tilde server loaded to the
> brim with Internet-native, text-based tools.
>
> I see BBS as islands designed to serve small geographical areas in the times of
> metered dial-up connectivity. For that scenario, they totally made
> sense.

In a few specific countries, I gather? There's a bunch of historical
systems that don't seem to make much sense until you consider in some
places local calls were free at least to part of the telephony
customers.

I wish I had that when I had to use dial-up. At one point you even had
to pay separately for the call *and* the Internet service.

> But there are better options (namely, pubnix and tildes) for partaking in the
> smolnet in a world of always-on, universal Internet access.
>
> Why use BBS-siloed message boards, when you can have full USENET access?
>
> Why use FIDO email and convoluted inter-zones gateways, when you can have full
> Internet email?
>
> Why use BBS chat rooms, when you have IRC at a global scale?
>
> Why bother publishing anything in a BBS-constrained presence, when you
> can publish a Gopher site and instantly be world-reachable?
>
> Now that we have always-on Internet and cheap UNIX-derived/-inspired operating
> systems (instead of MS-DOS machines), there are better options than
> BBS.

Are there mechanisms by which some BBSes could try to be connected in a
wider network? (I don't really know much of that field, historical or
current.)

Well, I guess it could be nostalgia and interest on these specific kinds
of interactions.

But yes, if the goal is communicating with a larger audience, then
USENET and IRC and internetworked e-mail are much better.

Meanwhile, the fediverse could use a bit of a focus on e.g. having
mastodon actually stop trying to be a twitter clone, especially where it
regards browser compatibility and CPU and memory usage... it's a bit
like trying to copy Apple smartphones instead of designing something
better...

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#234816

On 5/31/26 00:46, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2026-05-31, Juancho wrote:> 
>>
>> I see BBS as islands designed to serve small geographical areas in the times of
>> metered dial-up connectivity. For that scenario, they totally made
>> sense.
> 
> In a few specific countries, I gather? There's a bunch of historical
> systems that don't seem to make much sense until you consider in some
> places local calls were free at least to part of the telephony
> customers.
> 
> I wish I had that when I had to use dial-up. At one point you even had
> to pay separately for the call *and* the Internet service.

This is why timesharing companies installed concentrators in some major 
markets. Local call from LA to access a computer in New York. Sessions 
were multiplexed over a high-speed line.
> 
>> But there are better options (namely, pubnix and tildes) for partaking in the
>> smolnet in a world of always-on, universal Internet access.
>>
>> Why use BBS-siloed message boards, when you can have full USENET access?

Unfortunately usenet also seems to be going away. I subscribe to four 
groups now, down a bunch from years ago. This is the only one that has 
activity more than a couple of times a year. Posting to the others is 
like yelling out into the void. I'm sure there are other groups that are 
quite active, but everyone seems to be moving elsewhere. For example the 
Hercules-390 list is hosted on groups.io.

What is the advantage of a BBS over a website these days other than as a 
retrocomputing exercise?

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#234819

Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Meanwhile, the fediverse could use a bit of a focus on e.g. having
> mastodon actually stop trying to be a twitter clone, especially where it
> regards browser compatibility and CPU and memory usage... it's a bit
> like trying to copy Apple smartphones instead of designing something
> better...

But isn't that exactly what mastodon wants to be? A twitter clone?

Thankfully, there's lots of other fediverse servers that are a lot less
resource hungry. GoToSocial comes to mind, or snac.

https://gotosocial.org/
https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

Cheers,

Koen

-- 
Software architecture & engineering: https://www.sonologic.se/
Sci-fi: https://www.koenmartens.nl/
Retrocomputing videos: https://retroscandinavian.eu/

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#234884

On 2026-05-31, Koen Martens wrote:

> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Meanwhile, the fediverse could use a bit of a focus on e.g. having
>> mastodon actually stop trying to be a twitter clone, especially where it
>> regards browser compatibility and CPU and memory usage... it's a bit
>> like trying to copy Apple smartphones instead of designing something
>> better...
>
> But isn't that exactly what mastodon wants to be? A twitter clone?

Sadly it seems to be at least their unofficial charter. The UI has some
issues that perhaps wouldn't exist if it didn't try to mimick twitter,
and this besides the short character limit per post, which basically
forces people to do "multiposts" even for short stuff, and even
complicates usage of hashtags.

Sadly that one is hardcoded, it can be changed but AFAIK isn't something
exposed as a setting administrators can change...

> Thankfully, there's lots of other fediverse servers that are a lot less
> resource hungry. GoToSocial comes to mind, or snac.
>
> https://gotosocial.org/
> https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2

Brutaldon at least allows a more pleasant experience, even if limited in
some features, but it has issues in OAuth2 that have not been fixed,
making it so that a brutaldon instance might be unable to authenticate
with a mastodon instance if certain conditions have been met in the
past.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#234892

Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Sadly it seems to be at least their unofficial charter. The UI has some
> issues that perhaps wouldn't exist if it didn't try to mimick twitter,
> and this besides the short character limit per post, which basically
> forces people to do "multiposts" even for short stuff, and even
> complicates usage of hashtags.
> 
> Sadly that one is hardcoded, it can be changed but AFAIK isn't something
> exposed as a setting administrators can change...

The maximum post length can be changed on mastodon.

What that doesn't fix is that people on mastodon don't see threads. I
use friendica, which does show complete threads, but everytime I post
something that's mildly popular, I get 10x the same response from
mastodon people who haven't seen the other 9 responses because mastodon
doesn't show that.

>> Thankfully, there's lots of other fediverse servers that are a lot less
>> resource hungry. GoToSocial comes to mind, or snac.
>>
>> https://gotosocial.org/
>> https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2
> 
> Brutaldon at least allows a more pleasant experience, even if limited in
> some features, but it has issues in OAuth2 that have not been fixed,
> making it so that a brutaldon instance might be unable to authenticate
> with a mastodon instance if certain conditions have been met in the
> past.

Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!

Cheers,

Koen

-- 
Software architecture & engineering: https://www.sonologic.se/
Sci-fi: https://www.koenmartens.nl/
Retrocomputing videos: https://retroscandinavian.eu/

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#234905 — Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System)

On 2026-06-04, Koen Martens wrote:

> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> Sadly it seems to be at least their unofficial charter. The UI has some
>> issues that perhaps wouldn't exist if it didn't try to mimick twitter,
>> and this besides the short character limit per post, which basically
>> forces people to do "multiposts" even for short stuff, and even
>> complicates usage of hashtags.
>> 
>> Sadly that one is hardcoded, it can be changed but AFAIK isn't something
>> exposed as a setting administrators can change...
>
> The maximum post length can be changed on mastodon.

(AFAIK it's hardcoded, not an exposed setting. So it can be changed but
only in the code directly, and requires recompiling or at least
redeploying, see [1,2].)

[1] <https://mastodon.ie/@2legged/115830641882158143>
[2] <https://oldfriends.live/@paul/115830834904852474>

(Threads have context, but in these two cases the post themselves are
what I want to point to, so checking page metadata to read the posts is
sufficient in incompatible browsers, albeit not as easy as just serving
that content in plain HTML...)

> What that doesn't fix is that people on mastodon don't see threads. I
> use friendica, which does show complete threads, but everytime I post
> something that's mildly popular, I get 10x the same response from
> mastodon people who haven't seen the other 9 responses because mastodon
> doesn't show that.

*Sigh*. There seem to be improvements in this, as now the instance I use
will often say "more replies found", but it still seems suboptimal. If
other fediverse systems fare better here, then, yes, it'd be good to get
that on Mastodon.

That besides the point that even when displaying the full thread,
Mastodon's official UIs still don't display it as a thread, with
nesting. As an example http://threadtree.xyz does this but leaves out
attachments. I guess this one goes into the "wants to imitate twitter"
bucket?

>>> Thankfully, there's lots of other fediverse servers that are a lot less
>>> resource hungry. GoToSocial comes to mind, or snac.
>>>
>>> https://gotosocial.org/
>>> https://codeberg.org/grunfink/snac2
>> 
>> Brutaldon at least allows a more pleasant experience, even if limited in
>> some features, but it has issues in OAuth2 that have not been fixed,
>> making it so that a brutaldon instance might be unable to authenticate
>> with a mastodon instance if certain conditions have been met in the
>> past.
>
> Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!

Might even enable browsing mastodon on low-bandwidth and/or high-latency
connections. Most of the troubles I've had with it have been because of
the instance itself, not because of brutaldon.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#234906 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> That besides the point that even when displaying the full thread,
> Mastodon's official UIs still don't display it as a thread, with
> nesting. As an example http://threadtree.xyz does this but leaves out
> attachments. I guess this one goes into the "wants to imitate twitter"
> bucket?

I think so, but it just makes for poor interaction imho.

>> Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!
> 
> Might even enable browsing mastodon on low-bandwidth and/or high-latency
> connections. Most of the troubles I've had with it have been because of
> the instance itself, not because of brutaldon.

Ah, it's a web front-end for regular mastodon I see now. That still
doesn't take away my major beef with mastodon: it's a bloated piece
of ruby software that guzzles resources like it's no-one's business.

Not that friendica is particularly light though. Which is why I'm
intending to give snac and gotosocial a try. They are being advertised
as light-weight, so if their user experience is anywhere near decent it
might be interesting to switch over.

Cheers,

Koen

-- 
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#234910 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 09:03:53 -0000 (UTC)
gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:

> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > That besides the point that even when displaying the full thread,
> > Mastodon's official UIs still don't display it as a thread, with
> > nesting. As an example http://threadtree.xyz does this but leaves out
> > attachments. I guess this one goes into the "wants to imitate twitter"
> > bucket?
> 
> I think so, but it just makes for poor interaction imho.
> 
> >> Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!
> > 
> > Might even enable browsing mastodon on low-bandwidth and/or high-latency
> > connections. Most of the troubles I've had with it have been because of
> > the instance itself, not because of brutaldon.
> 
> Ah, it's a web front-end for regular mastodon I see now. That still
> doesn't take away my major beef with mastodon: it's a bloated piece
> of ruby software that guzzles resources like it's no-one's business.
> 
> Not that friendica is particularly light though. Which is why I'm
> intending to give snac and gotosocial a try. They are being advertised
> as light-weight, so if their user experience is anywhere near decent it
> might be interesting to switch over.

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What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
troll idiots.
One can dream.
, -- 
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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#234911 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> posted:


 
> What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
> system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
> intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
> troll idiots.
> One can dream.


If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it about 
the message, not the fluff.

(I'm on the fence with stuff like text-effects like bold and italics. We 
can discuss hyperlinking. ;-)

Or is that too old-school?


(More importantly though: the ideal system would have to be decentralized. 
Usenet wouldn't survived as long as it did if it were dependent on a single
provider.)

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#234916 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:

> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
> about the message, not the fluff.

No ASCII art? Only that’s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...

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