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  SDF Public Access Unix System rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-02-14 21:09 +0000
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2026-02-14 17:31 -0500
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-15 11:12 -0800
    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-17 19:07 +0000
      Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-oru-this> - 2026-02-18 07:50 -0800
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-02-18 09:45 -0800
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us> - 2026-02-19 03:15 +0000
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-19 03:49 +0000
          Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-d7b-this> - 2026-02-19 07:16 -0800
            Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-05-31 06:57 +0200
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:46 +0100
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-05-31 08:11 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-05-31 17:58 +0000
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:49 +0100
                    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-04 16:09 +0000
                      Mastodon (and the fediverse) (was: Re: SDF Public Access Unix System) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-05 09:53 +0100
                        Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) - 2026-06-05 09:03 +0000
                          Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-06-05 17:28 +0100
                            Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-06-05 16:47 +0000
                              Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-05 23:57 +0000
                                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-06 07:07 -0400
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:59 -0400
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-06 21:16 +0000
                                    Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:23 +0100
                                      Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:28 -0400
                                        Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 16:15 +0100
                                        Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-06-07 16:42 +0000
                                          Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 23:11 +0000
                                            Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:58 +0100
                                              Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:21 +0000
                              Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-06 14:56 -0400
                                Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:11 +0100
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-07 00:17 +0000
                                    Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 02:33 +0000
                                      Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-07 09:25 -0400
                                      Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> - 2026-06-07 12:24 -0400
                                  Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-07 07:05 +0100
                                    Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-07 08:04 +0000
                            Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse) Root Badger <admin@rootbadger.com> - 2026-06-07 18:43 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Jonathan Lamothe <jonathan@jlamothe.net> - 2026-06-01 12:34 -0400
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel Cerqueira <dan.list@lispclub.com> - 2026-06-01 20:11 +0100
                    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-04 11:52 +0100
              Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-06-01 14:06 -0700
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-06-02 01:46 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 11:01 +0000
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-06-02 09:17 -0700
                    Re: SDF Public Access Unix System cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:30 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-9jk-this> - 2026-06-02 07:25 -0700
                  Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 22:00 +0000
                Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Juancho <eternal@notreally.com> - 2026-06-03 19:50 +0200
        Re: SDF Public Access Unix System Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-02-21 10:11 +0000

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#234923 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did ldo@nz.invalid 
deliver unto us this message:
> 
> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
> 
> > If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
> > about the message, not the fluff.
> 
> No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
> beginning ...

ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine. 

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#234926 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

The True Melissa <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

> Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did ldo@nz.invalid 
> deliver unto us this message:
>> 
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
>> 
>> > If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
>> > about the message, not the fluff.
>> 
>> No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
>> beginning ...
>
> ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine. 

Unless it's being wiewed with a *shudders* variable width font.

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Regards,
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#234927 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:

> Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
> ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
>>
>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
>>
>>> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
>>> about the message, not the fluff.
>>
>> No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
>> beginning ...
>
> ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.

Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?

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#234931 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-06, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:
>
>> Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
>> ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
>>>> about the message, not the fluff.
>>>
>>> No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
>>> beginning ...
>>
>> ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
>
> Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?

Not allowing unicode *at all* would be a mistake, given that gives a
good solution to handle so many languages, even if considering just the
ones revolving around the latin alphabet! One could perhaps talk about
limiting emoji usage, and then there's overuse of glyphs other than
emojis, like not using apostrophes (which are ASCII-compatible) and
instead using ASCII-incompatible glyphs that likely don't even have the
same meaning :-P

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Nuno Silva

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#234941 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:

> On 2026-06-06, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:
>>
>>> Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
>>> ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
>>>>> about the message, not the fluff.
>>>>
>>>> No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
>>>> beginning ...
>>>
>>> ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
>>
>> Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?
>
> Not allowing unicode *at all* would be a mistake, given that gives a
> good solution to handle so many languages, even if considering just the
> ones revolving around the latin alphabet! One could perhaps talk about
> limiting emoji usage, and then there's overuse of glyphs other than
> emojis, like not using apostrophes (which are ASCII-compatible) and
> instead using ASCII-incompatible glyphs that likely don't even have the
> same meaning :-P

I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too.  ;)

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Regards,
Jonathan Lamothe
https://jlamothe.net - PGP: 9CF2CE03EBF08E8C8B66C3660198463E3CF3FFD1
I � Unicode

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#234942 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-07, Jonathan Lamothe wrote:

> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2026-06-06, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:
>>>
>>>> Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
>>>> ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
>>>>>> about the message, not the fluff.
>>>>>
>>>>> No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
>>>>> beginning ...
>>>>
>>>> ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
>>>
>>> Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?
>>
>> Not allowing unicode *at all* would be a mistake, given that gives a
>> good solution to handle so many languages, even if considering just the
>> ones revolving around the latin alphabet! One could perhaps talk about
>> limiting emoji usage, and then there's overuse of glyphs other than
>> emojis, like not using apostrophes (which are ASCII-compatible) and
>> instead using ASCII-incompatible glyphs that likely don't even have the
>> same meaning :-P
>
> I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too.  ;)

ISWYDT :-)

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#234944 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

 > I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too.  ;)

ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".

De

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#234954 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 16:42:40 +0000, Dennis Boone wrote:

>> I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too.  ;)
> 
> ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law>

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#234958 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-08, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 16:42:40 +0000, Dennis Boone wrote:
>
>>> I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too.  ;)
>> 
>> ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".
>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law>

ITYM <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%60s_law>

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Nuno Silva

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#234960 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-07, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 2026-06-08, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 16:42:40 +0000, Dennis Boone wrote:
>>
>>>> I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too.  ;)
>>> 
>>> ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".
>>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law>
>
> ITYM <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%60s_law>

No, no - backticks are out of style.  It should be

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry$(s_law)>

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\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  intelligence was
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  used in the creation
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  of this post.

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#234925 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:

> "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> posted:
>
>
>  
>> What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
>> system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
>> intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
>> troll idiots.
>> One can dream.
>
>
> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it about 
> the message, not the fluff.
>
> (I'm on the fence with stuff like text-effects like bold and italics. We 
> can discuss hyperlinking. ;-)
>
> Or is that too old-school?
>
>
> (More importantly though: the ideal system would have to be decentralized. 
> Usenet wouldn't survived as long as it did if it were dependent on a single
> provider.)

I would push back slightly on the no emoji thing, not because I feel any
particular way about emoji themselves, but if you want this system to be
able to serve non English-speaking users, Unicode support would be the
best (though admittedly imperfect) tool we've currently got for that
purpose.

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Regards,
Jonathan Lamothe
https://jlamothe.net - PGP: 9CF2CE03EBF08E8C8B66C3660198463E3CF3FFD1
I � Unicode

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#234930 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-06, Jonathan Lamothe wrote:

> SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
>
>> "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> posted:
>>
>>
>>  
>>> What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
>>> system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
>>> intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
>>> troll idiots.
>>> One can dream.
>>
>>
>> If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it about 
>> the message, not the fluff.
>>
>> (I'm on the fence with stuff like text-effects like bold and italics. We 
>> can discuss hyperlinking. ;-)
>>
>> Or is that too old-school?
>>
>>
>> (More importantly though: the ideal system would have to be decentralized. 
>> Usenet wouldn't survived as long as it did if it were dependent on a single
>> provider.)
>
> I would push back slightly on the no emoji thing, not because I feel any
> particular way about emoji themselves, but if you want this system to be
> able to serve non English-speaking users, Unicode support would be the
> best (though admittedly imperfect) tool we've currently got for that
> purpose.

Emojis are still an accessibility problem. Having them handled
via UCS *should* be good from a point of view of ensuring some
consistency and well-defined meaning, that could be exploited to either
show these as text or provide descriptions somehow. But the usual
approach of cramming a bunch of stuff in a single glyph *is* a huge
downgrade compared to ASCII smileys and the like.

... but don't forget this: there are glyphs in wide use that aren't
really consistent or adequate, there's widespread usage of a "no 18"
sign with the meaning and name of "no one under eighteen" (0x1F51E) -
which was even submitted to UCS with the bogus "no 18" rendering some
fonts use.

I've been told this is because the source fonts did not have room for
more [1], which both points to possible issues regarding what is shown
v. the meaning even with UCS, and to the problem of readability and
accessibility itself.

[1] <https://mastodon.social/@CharlotteBuff/112806149720738139> - which
is in a thread about another issue with sign coverage in UCS, for some
reason there are (or at least that was the case when the posts were
made?) a bunch of prohibition signs... but not C3a.

But I digress: the point I wanted to make is that emojis in general end
up being a downgrade IMHO, but that I'd hope at least UCS or, in
image-based add-ons to systems like Mastodon, proper metadata, would
make it possible to provide better readability, and possibly fully ASCII
replacements.

At least for stuff close enough to ASCII, like the UCS equivalent of
Microsoft Dumb Quotes™ and some mathematical signs, it's even possible
to add //TRANSLIT to the iconv(1) encoding specification to get
e.g. ASCII or latin1 versions. But of course this isn't any good for
emojis. I merely mean something similar should be, in theory, possible.

I have some Gnus settings to convert some of the glyphs of the kind
//TRANSLIT can handle to something more capable of being displayed in a
latin1 terminal, I should check if that could be useful for emojis.

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#234933 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-06, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Emojis are still an accessibility problem. Having them handled
> via UCS *should* be good from a point of view of ensuring some
> consistency and well-defined meaning, that could be exploited to either
> show these as text or provide descriptions somehow. But the usual
> approach of cramming a bunch of stuff in a single glyph *is* a huge
> downgrade compared to ASCII smileys and the like.

This whole thing is becoming a tempest in a teapot.  People were
communicating with text for centuries before emojis were invented.

I know, I know, Pandora's box has been opened and a bunch of
emojis have come flying out.  But remember that the last thing
in the box was hope.

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#234934 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 00:17:14 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> People were communicating with text for centuries before emojis were
> invented.

What were these
<https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/kn60r/infographic_26_prehistoric_cave_symbols_used/>,
do you think?

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#234940 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

> On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 00:17:14 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> People were communicating with text for centuries before emojis were
>> invented.
>
> What were these
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/kn60r/infographic_26_prehistoric_cave_symbols_used/>,
> do you think?

I don't know.  Reddit doesn't like my VPN, apparently.

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#234943 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

Verily, in article <1102l8v$287og$1@dont-email.me>, did ldo@nz.invalid 
deliver unto us this message:
> 
> On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 00:17:14 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
> > People were communicating with text for centuries before emojis were
> > invented.
> 
> What were these
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/kn60r/infographic_26_prehistoric_cave_symbols_used/>,
> do you think?

Prehistory is one of my interests. These were likely tribal markings.

The "worldwide" is a bit misleading. Each sign is found only in some 
areas. It's not as if the same 26 signs were in use all over the world, 
but local areas did develop codes.

This probably isn't "writing" in quite the sense we think of it, because 
the sign probably didn't represent a word. Instead, it mostly likely 
represented the tribe directly, as a separate symbol. 

The very oldest cave markings are handprints, either positive or 
negative, on the wall. The intended message was probably "Ogg was here."


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#234935 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:


[...]

>
> I have some Gnus settings to convert some of the glyphs of the kind
> //TRANSLIT can handle to something more capable of being displayed in a
> latin1 terminal, I should check if that could be useful for emojis.

I am interested in this functionality, if it works with emojis.  Please
Nuno, do email me if this works with emojis, or do write an article
about it (it can be in the pt.* hierarchy).

The best thing I have so far, is using GNU Emacs' M-x describe-char for
knowing what an emoji means.  Which takes a lot of effort: setting the
point on the emoji, running that command, changing buffer, scrolling the
buffer down to read the description of the emoji, kill the current
buffer and get back to the previous buffer, and continue reading...  Too
much.

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#234939 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 07:05:53 +0100, Daniel Cerqueira wrote:

> The best thing I have so far, is using GNU Emacs' M-x describe-char
> for knowing what an emoji means.

This command <https://manpages.debian.org/unicode(1)> will accept an
argument in various formats, including copying and pasting a literal
character.

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#234947 — Re: Mastodon (and the fediverse)

On 2026-06-05, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 09:03:53 -0000 (UTC)
> gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:
>
>> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> > That besides the point that even when displaying the full thread,
>> > Mastodon's official UIs still don't display it as a thread, with
>> > nesting. As an example http://threadtree.xyz does this but leaves out
>> > attachments. I guess this one goes into the "wants to imitate twitter"
>> > bucket?
>> 
>> I think so, but it just makes for poor interaction imho.
>> 
>> >> Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!
>> > 
>> > Might even enable browsing mastodon on low-bandwidth and/or high-latency
>> > connections. Most of the troubles I've had with it have been because of
>> > the instance itself, not because of brutaldon.
>> 
>> Ah, it's a web front-end for regular mastodon I see now. That still
>> doesn't take away my major beef with mastodon: it's a bloated piece
>> of ruby software that guzzles resources like it's no-one's business.
>> 
>> Not that friendica is particularly light though. Which is why I'm
>> intending to give snac and gotosocial a try. They are being advertised
>> as light-weight, so if their user experience is anywhere near decent it
>> might be interesting to switch over.
>
> []
>
> What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
> system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
> intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
> troll idiots.
> One can dream.
> , -- 
> Bah, and indeed Humbug.

I have been working on RootBadger  www.rootbadger.com. it is a
usenetstyle discussion board.

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Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:

> On 2026-05-31, Juancho wrote:
<snip>

> Meanwhile, the fediverse could use a bit of a focus on e.g. having
> mastodon actually stop trying to be a twitter clone, especially where it
> regards browser compatibility and CPU and memory usage... it's a bit
> like trying to copy Apple smartphones instead of designing something
> better...

It's also worth noting that the fediverse is bigger than just Mastodon.
;)

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