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| Started by | Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> |
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| First post | 2016-02-21 09:13 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-02-27 10:17 -0800 |
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Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:23 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 17:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 01:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:00 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 16:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 20:49 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 18:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 17:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 19:30 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:20 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-24 17:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 05:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:31 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 15:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 14:55 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 20:18 -0800
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:23 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-26 12:15 +0100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:24 -0800
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:14 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 23:34 -0600
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 10:14 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 14:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 15:50 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:46 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:40 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 10:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:23 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 14:27 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:22 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:03 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 13:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:56 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-26 12:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-26 23:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-27 09:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-27 14:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-27 17:08 -0800
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-28 09:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-28 15:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-28 19:00 -0800
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-29 22:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-01 22:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 13:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-02 21:09 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 05:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-02 19:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-03 01:02 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-16 17:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-17 10:42 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:21 -0800
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:19 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 08:27 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:25 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:30 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 15:00 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 13:52 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 17:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 18:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-27 17:12 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 05:43 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:41 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 11:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 14:57 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:55 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:25 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 16:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 09:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:25 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:35 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:35 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-08 00:48 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:49 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:49 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 11:03 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 15:56 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:30 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 10:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 18:41 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:12 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 03:28 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:48 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:09 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:22 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:13 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:28 -0800
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-28 12:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:32 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:40 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 18:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 20:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:22 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:40 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 06:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:35 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:00 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:54 +1100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 10:51 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 22:06 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:01 +1100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-29 08:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 05:01 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0800
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:59 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:06 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 09:12 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:37 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:24 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 06:04 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:33 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 11:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:47 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-28 10:58 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 04:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:38 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:44 +1100
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:46 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:56 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 22:53 -0600
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:44 -0600
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 14:02 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 11:36 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:58 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:20 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 10:16 -0800
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0800
Re: Qbasic Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 21:03 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:23 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:02 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 11:18 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 15:14 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:24 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:13 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-09 12:38 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-09 19:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 05:06 -0800
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 09:35 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 07:42 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 04:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-10 15:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-02 14:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:23 -0700
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-02 07:29 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:04 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-02 12:50 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:55 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:40 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 11:47 -0800
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 22:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:16 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:44 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 16:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 15:08 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:19 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:56 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:57 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:56 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:28 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:41 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:24 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 14:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:16 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 18:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 21:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 23:13 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:25 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 23:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 12:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 10:32 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 10:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:10 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 19:41 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 05:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-25 08:50 -0400
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-25 10:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:34 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 12:58 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:01 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 16:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:49 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 10:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 12:56 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 18:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:53 -0800
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 19:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 20:19 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 20:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 16:18 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 16:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 09:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 13:29 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 18:27 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 20:14 -0600
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 11:06 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-11 10:09 -0600
Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:21 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-11 10:28 -0800
Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 19:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-10 16:58 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 00:51 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 18:59 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 10:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 18:11 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:26 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:44 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:36 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 12:55 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 08:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 11:57 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:13 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:36 -0600
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:44 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 12:14 -0800
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 18:06 -0800
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:44 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:23 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 15:03 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 14:04 -0800
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 16:16 -0800
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-11 17:02 -0800
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 19:01 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 09:47 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 11:25 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:32 -0600
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:34 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:02 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 10:54 -0800
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-04 20:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:41 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 17:34 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 14:42 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 22:37 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:22 -0600
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:45 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-08 17:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 22:11 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:10 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 13:07 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 11:27 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 16:28 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:05 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:28 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 17:37 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 16:10 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 18:00 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:07 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:06 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:39 -0400
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 20:23 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:17 -0500
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:15 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 08:13 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:24 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:53 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:58 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:34 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-09 14:39 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 10:05 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-09 09:41 -0800
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:57 +1100
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 21:11 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 15:23 -0600
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-10 17:40 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:31 +0000
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 12:59 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:44 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:19 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:29 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 15:45 -0600
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 17:52 -0800
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:42 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:11 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 13:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:31 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 19:28 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:19 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 11:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-16 22:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 09:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-16 12:10 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-16 19:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 17:01 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:39 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-18 12:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:02 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 10:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-19 13:23 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 11:54 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 12:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-18 15:42 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 17:54 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 19:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-18 21:09 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:55 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 14:39 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-21 07:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-21 20:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 12:56 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-19 17:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-20 03:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 07:45 -0600
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 06:09 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 09:16 -0600
Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 04:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:21 -0600
Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 17:02 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 18:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-21 11:24 -0600
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 16:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-21 17:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:55 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:03 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 10:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 11:14 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:07 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 17:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 10:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-13 07:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-21 19:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:27 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 08:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:17 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:42 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:58 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:28 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 13:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 16:48 -0700
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-20 00:37 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:05 -0600
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-20 12:43 -0600
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 14:04 -0600
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:06 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 19:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 12:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:17 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 12:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 17:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:55 -0600
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 11:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 14:00 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 14:32 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:53 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:03 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 19:34 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 17:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 21:47 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-23 18:34 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:39 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 16:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 17:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 18:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:30 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 15:16 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:51 +1100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-24 01:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 22:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 19:02 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-24 13:03 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-25 12:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-25 09:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:03 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 12:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:55 +0100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-29 13:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last,name.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:12 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:43 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 05:39 +0100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:26 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 09:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:01 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 23:06 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:14 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:08 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 17:59 +0100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-30 11:01 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-30 15:13 -0600
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:14 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:53 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic pechter@cobalt.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-04-01 16:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-01 12:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 14:05 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 09:41 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:07 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:22 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:45 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:06 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-29 22:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:29 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:16 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:58 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:13 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 09:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 21:19 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:23 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:38 +1100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-31 12:33 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-31 12:16 +0200
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:00 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-31 12:41 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-31 13:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:39 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:55 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:20 -0500
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-30 11:48 -0600
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:56 -0500
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:11 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-31 16:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 16:27 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 17:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 23:20 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:19 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 19:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:24 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-03 08:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 13:47 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 18:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-09 18:23 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:03 +1000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:45 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 14:45 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:34 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-05 13:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-05 10:16 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:05 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-25 12:15 -0600
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 11:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:43 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:24 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:31 +1100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:24 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-28 15:53 -0600
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-25 22:48 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 07:04 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:18 +1100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 17:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-26 19:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 20:22 +0000
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:34 -0300
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-27 09:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-27 17:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 04:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:47 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:50 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:48 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:29 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 09:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-24 09:52 -0600
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 10:18 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-24 10:39 -0600
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 09:21 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 10:37 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 11:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 14:19 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-11 23:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 13:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 07:15 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:35 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 05:26 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-25 12:17 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:09 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:43 -0300
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 04:45 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-27 13:02 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-27 19:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-27 15:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-27 15:40 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-27 17:40 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 11:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 11:08 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 09:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 11:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 12:02 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 07:32 +1100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-27 17:48 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-27 15:53 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-28 13:29 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:34 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 13:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 14:47 +0100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:49 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:22 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:25 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-01 07:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-01 09:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-01 13:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-02 06:23 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-02 08:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 12:27 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 17:45 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-28 13:30 -0500
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 18:31 -0300
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 16:32 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 09:30 +0000
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 04:17 +1100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 04:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 04:30 +1100
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:55 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-04 11:01 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 19:43 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-04 23:31 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-04 17:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 00:42 +0200
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:41 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-28 14:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:30 -0700
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:11 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 20:33 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 09:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 19:58 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:45 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:07 -0600
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 07:20 +1100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-22 19:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 11:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 06:30 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 10:07 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 10:37 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-24 14:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 14:46 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-24 16:59 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 13:59 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:23 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-25 13:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:54 -0700
Re: Qbasic Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-21 17:46 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 11:31 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 13:15 +0100
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 04:48 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:37 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-16 18:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 21:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:48 +1100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 00:49 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-17 09:28 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-17 10:45 -0500
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:16 +1100
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-17 12:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 06:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 13:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:22 +1100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-18 18:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 20:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 07:28 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:27 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 17:44 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:07 -0700
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-24 13:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 13:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:21 +1100
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 12:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-16 23:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:10 +1100
Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:07 +1100
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-03-04 21:45 -0800
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-05 10:50 +0000
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-03-06 13:52 -0800
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:04 +0000
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-02 13:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160302134629.5dabace7012a3c8eff048566@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #160446 |
On 2 Mar 2016 12:26:55 GMT mausg@mail.com wrote: > On 2016-03-01, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:37:48 -0500 (EST), sidd@situ.com (sidd) wrote: > >> > >>"The Big Short" is a good movie. > >> > >>sidd > > > > Just watched the movie. > > Wonderfully life affirming. > > > > Carl Goldsworthy > > -- > > In a "zero sum game" there are no winners. > > AFAIbelieve a zero sum game is where there is no `house' > charge?. That's one way to look at it, except that in some games the 'house charge' may be negative, these are positive sum games - technology development is one example. A zero sum game is one in which the total in play is fixed - a friendly poker game for example. There are also negative sum games in which the total decreases (nuclear war for example). -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-03-02 21:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nb7kpf02e6u@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #160448 |
On 2016-03-02, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On 2 Mar 2016 12:26:55 GMT > mausg@mail.com wrote: > >> On 2016-03-01, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:37:48 -0500 (EST), sidd@situ.com (sidd) wrote: >>> >>>> "The Big Short" is a good movie. >>> >>> Just watched the movie. >>> Wonderfully life affirming. >>> >>> Carl Goldsworthy >>> -- >>> In a "zero sum game" there are no winners. >> >> AFAIbelieve a zero sum game is where there is no `house' >> charge?. > > That's one way to look at it, except that in some games the 'house > charge' may be negative, these are positive sum games - technology > development is one example. A zero sum game is one in which the total in > play is fixed - a friendly poker game for example. There are also negative > sum games in which the total decreases (nuclear war for example). Nevertheless, some people may favour a negative sum game if they think that they can scoop up most of what's left. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2016-03-03 05:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20160303053329.97e148aab83f37b609d6e3a7@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #160480 |
On 2 Mar 2016 21:09:03 GMT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > On 2016-03-02, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > > > On 2 Mar 2016 12:26:55 GMT > > mausg@mail.com wrote: > > > >> On 2016-03-01, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote: > >> > >>> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:37:48 -0500 (EST), sidd@situ.com (sidd) wrote: > >>> > >>>> "The Big Short" is a good movie. > >>> > >>> Just watched the movie. > >>> Wonderfully life affirming. > >>> > >>> Carl Goldsworthy > >>> -- > >>> In a "zero sum game" there are no winners. > >> > >> AFAIbelieve a zero sum game is where there is no `house' > >> charge?. > > > > That's one way to look at it, except that in some games the > > 'house charge' may be negative, these are positive sum games - > > technology development is one example. A zero sum game is one in which > > the total in play is fixed - a friendly poker game for example. There > > are also negative sum games in which the total decreases (nuclear war > > for example). > > Nevertheless, some people may favour a negative sum game if they think > that they can scoop up most of what's left. Lotteries being a prime example. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Ibmekon <Ibmekon> |
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| Date | 2016-03-02 19:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <u9eedbl2lpfmco2jbek6onkp0gva1aachv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #160446 |
On 2 Mar 2016 12:26:55 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote: >On 2016-03-01, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote: >> On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:37:48 -0500 (EST), sidd@situ.com (sidd) wrote: >>> >>>"The Big Short" is a good movie. >>> >>>sidd >> >> Just watched the movie. >> Wonderfully life affirming. >> >> Carl Goldsworthy >> -- >> In a "zero sum game" there are no winners. > >AFAIbelieve a zero sum game is where there is no `house' >charge?. Just so. The popular current context is the Derivatives market, unregulated but estimated at $1.2 quadrillion. Advocates say the size is immaterial, it is a "zero sum game". Of course if an Irish bank, eg AIB lost a few tens of billions to a German bank, eg Deutsche, the effect on the Irish taxpayer is not zero. In the "The Big Short", the guy who was first to realise the impending CFD CDO housing meltdown around 2007 was asked how he could predict this. He said there are signs before a market collapse - one indicator is when the financial products get ever more complex. It is a sign that Wallstreet is hiding the sh1t in an opaque wrapper. Carl Goldsworthy -- Derivatives is a "zero sum game" - "The Big Lie".
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87lh60l9zr.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #160466 |
Ibmekon <Ibmekon> writes: > Just so. > The popular current context is the Derivatives market, unregulated but > estimated at $1.2 quadrillion. > Advocates say the size is immaterial, it is a "zero sum game". > Of course if an Irish bank, eg AIB lost a few tens of billions to a > German bank, eg Deutsche, the effect on the Irish taxpayer is not > zero. > > In the "The Big Short", the guy who was first to realise the impending > CFD CDO housing meltdown around 2007 was asked how he could predict > this. > He said there are signs before a market collapse - one indicator is > when the financial products get ever more complex. It is a sign that > Wallstreet is hiding the sh1t in an opaque wrapper. > > Carl Goldsworthy > -- > Derivatives is a "zero sum game" - "The Big Lie". securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages. Early 1999, I'm asked to look at improving the integrity of mortgage supporting documents as countermeasure. A FED LEO explains that many of the investment bankers walked away "clean" from the S&L crisis and they were currently manipulating the INTERNET IPO market mill and they were predicted to get into mortgages next. The problem then is that they find they can pay the rating agencies for triple-A rating (when both the sellers and the rating agencies know they weren't worth triple-A from Oct2008 congressional testimony) on toxic CDOs; triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can start doing no-documentation, liar loans. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo during the first part of the century up through the crash ... there are periodic industry articles about how complex the math is to correctly value these products ... which is largely obfuscation since valuation is dependent on valid supporting documents ... which they didn't have. During this period there were periodic comments about the enormous amounts of money to be made playing the game ... but it was a little like musical chairs ... you had to know when to get out just before the music stops (they knew it would meltdown, it wasn't if, it was when). from the law of unintended consequences ... the biggest fines on the "too big to fail" (for all this) have been for the robo-signing mills that were fabricating the documents for the no-documentation liar loans ... in order to file foreclosers. Note they were able to scam that also. They setup the firms that were supposed to administer the fines for the benefit of the foreclosure victims ... and little of the money actually make it to the victims. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail When the chair of CFTC suggests regulating derivatives, the forces are marsheled and the chair is replaced with the wife of #2 on times list of those responsible for the financial mess http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html while the senator gets law passed prevented regulating derivatives (billed as gift to ENRON who is heavily playing in derivatives), the wife then resigns and joins the ENRON board and audit committee. Originally triple-A rating on toxic CDOs eliminated any reason to care about borrower's qualification or loan quality. Then they realize that they can design toxic CDOs to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their customer victims, and take out CDS/derivative gambling bets that they would fail (they now have reason to care about loan quality, they want large numbers that are as bad as possible) The largest holder of the CDS gambling bets was AIG and is negotiating to pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the secretary of treasury steps in and says that they have to sign a document that they can't sue those making the gambling bets and forced to take TARP funds to pay off the CDS gambling bets at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is AIG and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the firm formally headed by the secretary of treasury. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87h9gol81z.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #160466 |
Late 80s, calculations on CITIs ARM mortgage portfolio shows that minor rate changes can result in bringing the bank down. At the time, CITI was the largest player in the market, it then gets out of the mortgage market, sells off its portfolio and requires private bailout (Saudi prince) to stay in business. old long-winded post touching on it and other subjects from Jan1999 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm Black-Scholes is major model for calculating risk for these triple-A rated toxic CDO ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black%E2%80%93Scholes the person responsible for the CITI portfolio calculations publishes a number of industry articles in 2006 time-frame showing the Black-Scholes calculations aren't accounting for the various kinds of CDO risk (not even taking into account that the triple-A ratings aren't accurate/correct and the lack of documentation on which to base risk calculations). Despite CITIs experience from late 80s ARM mortgage portfolio, last decade, CITI is one of the four largest "too big to fail" players http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail some more of citi http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/08/the-untold-story-of-the-bailout-of-citigroup/ Earlier, president of AMEX "wins" competition to be the next CEO. The looser takes their protegee and leave, going to Baltimore taking over what is described as loan sharking business. They make some number of other acquisitions and eventually take-over CITI in violation of glass-steagall. some posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagal Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for repeal. some Greenspan (and other FED chairman) posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#greenspan They get lots of help from the then secretary of treasury (and former head of goldman sachs) with repeal of glass-steagall ... who resigns afterwards and joins CITI, at the time described as co-CEO. The protegee then leaves and becomes CEO of another of the four largest "too big to fail". AMEX is in competition with KKR for LBO, private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco the industry gets such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis that they change the industry name to "private equity" (and junk bonds become "high yield" bonds), some posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity KKR then runs into trouble and hires away the president of KKR to turn it around. IBM has gone into the red and is being reorganized into the 13 "baby blues" in preparation to breaking up the company. The board then hires away the former president of IBM to reverse the breakup and resurrect the company ... using some of the same techniques used at RJR http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml some posts http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-03 01:02 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <87d1rckk71.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #160485 |
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes: > Greenspan gives them an exemption while they lobby congress for > repeal. some Greenspan (and other FED chairman) posts > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#greenspan note when chair of CFTC suggested regulating derivatives/CDSs, Greenspan participated in getting the chair replace (with wife of senator that is #2 on time's list of those responsible for economic mess, after senator gets legislation passed preventing CDS regulation ... characterized as gift to ENRON, his wife resigns and joins ENRON board & audit committee). http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron Reports are Greenspan supported congress letting fiscal responsibility act (spending can't exceed tax revenue) expire in 2002 because he was concerned about effect it would have had eliminating all federal debt. 2010 CBO report has tax revenue cut by $6T and spending increased by $6T for $12T budget gap (compared to fiscal responsibility act). Since then the tax revenue hasn't been restored and only modest efforts on reducing the spending ... so federal debt has further balooned and interest on federal debt is approaching half trillion. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#fiscal.responsibility.act Note that just the four largest "too big to fail" were still holding $5.2T in off-book toxic assets the end of 2008 ... so there was no possibility that the $700B appropriated for buying toxic assets in TARP would make more than small dent in the problem. Instead TARP is used for other purposes ... and the Federal Reserve is buying toxic assets at 98cents on the dollar and providing tens of trillions in ZIRP funds. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail Bernanke holds a press conference not long after the Federal Reserve looses the long drawn out legal proceedings to force it to divulge what it was doing for bailout (including ZIRP funds) ... and says that he assumed that the "too big to fail" would use the ZIRP funds to lend to mainstreet, but when they didn't, he had no way to force them ... instead they were buying treasuries (federal debt) and taking in avg. of $300B/annum (compared to aggregate of $300B in fines for all illegal activity since economic mess). Supposedly one of the choices of Bernanke (to replace Greenspan) was he was a depression era scholar, but the FED had tried something similar then with the same results, so Bernanke should have had no expectations that they would do something different this time. In any case, w/o the explosion in the federal debt, the "too big to fail" wouldn't have safe place to park ZIRP funds for the $300B/annum. latest in the deferred prosecution sagas (gov. & HSBC fighting to prevent disclosure of all the charges & settlement) ... part of the reason that "too big to fail" are now also referred to as "too big to prosecute" and "too big to jail" ... and the fines (small compared to the amounts involves) are viewed as the cost of doing criminal business How The U.S. Government And HSBC Teamed Up To Hide The Truth From A Pennsylvania Couple http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-02/how-us-government-and-hsbc-teamed-hide-truth-pennsylvania-couple including money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering older case http://www.businessinsider.com/how-wachovia-laundered-billions-in-mexican-drug-money-2011-4 http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/04/wachovia-paid-trivial-fine-for-nearly-400-billion-of-drug-related-money-laundering.html past posts mentioning deferred prosecution: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#80 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#23 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#44 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#37 LIBOR: History's Largest Financial Crime that the WSJ and NYT Would Like You to Forget http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#57 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#61 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#31 Talk of Criminally Prosecuting Corporations Up, Actual Prosecutions Down http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#47 rationality http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#65 Economic Mess http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#10 25 Years: How the Web began http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#0 Thanks Obama -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-16 17:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87oaadx6k0.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #160485 |
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes: > Late 80s, calculations on CITIs ARM mortgage portfolio shows that minor > rate changes can result in bringing the bank down. At the time, CITI was > the largest player in the market, it then gets out of the mortgage market, > sells off its portfolio and requires private bailout (Saudi prince) to > stay in business. old long-winded post touching on it and other subjects > from Jan1999 > http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.htm#riskm The Untold Story of Why the SEC Paid Whistleblower Eric Hunsader $750,000 http://wallstreetonparade.com/2016/03/the-untold-story-of-why-the-sec-paid-whistleblower-eric-hunsader-750000/ Now we have learned a fact that might explain the low award to Hunsader, the three years it took to pay the award, and the slap on the wrist fine to the New York Stock Exchange while allowing it to go about its business of charging obscene fees for vastly different speeds of access to stock exchange data. Lawyers at Covington & Burling represented the New York Stock Exchange in this matter and bragged in an article carried on its web site that "NYSE Euronext got off with just a $5 million fine over allegations that it released market data to some clients faster than others." ... snip ... Why was no one prosecuted for contributing to the financial crisis? New documents reveal why http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bethany-mclean-why-no-one-prosecuted-for-financial-crisis-fcic-new-documents-233806072.html National Archives Opens Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission Records http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2016/nr16-45.html Rigged Justice: 2016 ; How Weak Enforcement Lets Corporate Offenders Off Easy http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/Rigged_Justice_2016.pdf long ago and far away, we were called in as consultants to small client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL"; the results is now frequently called "electronic commerce" Somewhat for doing "electronic commerce", in the mid-90s we were asked to participate in the X9A10 financial standard working group that had been given the requirement to preserve the integrity of the financial infrastructure for *ALL* retail payments (not just internet). One of the other members was from NSCC and later we got asked to come in (before NSCC merged with DTC to become DTCC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Securities_Clearing_Corporation to look at improving the integrity of exchange transactions. I work on it for awhile and then get call that it was being suspended. Unfortunately a side-effect of the integrity work was vastly improved "transparency and visibility" ... which is an anathema to wallstreet. Somewhat before HFT really takes off, ... "while illegal - was safe enough because, 'the Securities and Exchange Commmission never understands this.'" (or maybe just looks the otherway) http://nypost.com/2007/03/20/cramer-reveals-a-bit-too-much/ In the congressional Madoff hearings they had the person that had tried unsuccessfully for a decade to get SEC to do something about Madoff. They asked him if new regulations were needed. He responded that while new regulations might be needed, much more important "transparency and visibility" was required. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#madoff About the same time in the late 90s that I was (also) asked in to NSCC, I was also asked if I could help prevent the coming economic mess. A long winded post from Jan1999. http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/aepay3.html#riskm Securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate fraudulent mortgages (poster child was office bldgs in dallas/ft.worth that turned out to be empty lots). I was asked to look at improving integrity of supporting documents as countermeasure. Then they found they could pay for triple-A rating (when rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) ... triple-A trumps supporting documents and they can start doing no-documentation liar loans (no-documents means that there is no longer any supporting documents). The triple-A rating largely responsible for being able to do over $27T 2001-2008 (selling to funds restricted to dealing in "safe" investments like large public & private pension funds). http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo Jan2009 (a decade later), I was asked to HTML'ize the Pecora hearings (30s senate hearings into crash of '29 that results in Glass-Steagall and criminal convictions) with lots of internal x-refs and URLs between what happened then and what happened this time (comments that the new congress might have appetite to do something). I work on it for awhile and then get a call saying that it won't be needed after all (comments about enormous piles of wallstreet money totally burying capital hill). http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagal Was the U.S. Justice Department Sold to the Highest Bidder http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/09/was-the-u-s-justice-department-sold-to-the-highest-bidder/ Crisis of Confidence in U.S. Justice Department Grows http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/05/crisis-of-confidence-in-u-s-justice-department-grows/ The Whites Go to the SEC: Why Wall Street Still Owns Washington http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/03/the-whites-go-to-the-sec-why-wall-street-still-owns-washington/ -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-03-17 10:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87k2l13sro.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #161125 |
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes: > Why was no one prosecuted for contributing to the financial crisis? New > documents reveal why > http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bethany-mclean-why-no-one-prosecuted-for-financial-crisis-fcic-new-documents-233806072.html > National Archives Opens Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission Records > http://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2016/nr16-45.html > Rigged Justice: 2016 ; How Weak Enforcement Lets Corporate Offenders Off > Easy > http://www.warren.senate.gov/files/documents/Rigged_Justice_2016.pdf > Was the U.S. Justice Department Sold to the Highest Bidder > http://wallstreetonparade.com/2012/09/was-the-u-s-justice-department-sold-to-the-highest-bidder/ > Crisis of Confidence in U.S. Justice Department Grows > http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/05/crisis-of-confidence-in-u-s-justice-department-grows/ > The Whites Go to the SEC: Why Wall Street Still Owns Washington > http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/03/the-whites-go-to-the-sec-why-wall-street-still-owns-washington/ US Congressman Says Bankers Should Find Way to 'Neuter' Sen. Elizabeth Warren http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/03/16/us-congressman-says-bankers-should-find-way-neuter-sen-elizabeth-warren Congressman calls on bankers to 'neuter' Elizabeth Warren -- the 'Darth Vader' of Wall Street https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/congressman-calls-on-bankers-to-neuter-elizabeth-warren-the-darth-vader-of-wall-street/ GOP Congressman Fears Elizabeth Warren, Makes Trump-esque Comment About How to Stop Her http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/gop-congressman-fears-elizabeth-warren-makes-trump-esque-comment-about-how-stop -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nasu8o02mh5@news7.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #160241 |
On 2016-02-27, Ibmekon <Ibmekon> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 23:12:47 -0500 (EST), sidd@situ.com (sidd) wrote: > >> In article <naq6ls$8go$1@dont-email.me>, >> Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: >> >>> Originally, private fire companies would respond to fires--and sit >>> around until the property owner agreed to pay their bill. >> >> Crassus. Rome. > > Puts modern banksters to shame. Shhh! Don't let them hear you or they'll set this as a new goal. -- /~\ cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs) \ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way. X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855. / \ HTML will DEFINITELY be ignored. Join the ASCII ribbon campaign!
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 10:21 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <ddd3350b-66d3-491d-9022-43676051e823@googlegroups.com> |
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On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 5:38:19 AM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote: > In article , dave.garland > says... > > > > On 2/25/2016 8:41 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > > > > > Please provide an example of the United States government successfully > > > "taking over the private sector". > > > > Air Traffic Control > > Highways > > Weather Service > > Public Health (e.g. CDC) > > Medicare > > Social Security > > Superfund cleanups > > > > Many examples of lower levels of government (firemen, water supply, > > waste disposal, schools, health departments) > > > > All services that were provided poorly, if at all, by the "private" > > sector. > > The challenge was to provide examples of services that had been offered > by the private sector and were successfully taken over by the Federal > government. That you do not know the difference between being taken > over and being originated, the difference between the US government and > state and local government, and that given recent news items "water > supply" is a really bad example all suggest that you are an example of > why "schools" is another bad example. Many of those listed above were originally operated by the private sector, and the government had to take them over so they'd work better. Highways were once privately owned (a few still exist*), but this proved inadequate, and govt took them over. The airlines were unable to provide traffic control (even though the railroads can do so), so the govt has been running it. Industry has been 'great' at making an enormous environmental mess, and then walking away, leaving it for the taxpayer to clean up (Superfund sites). * Like the 'apron lady bridge' on the upper Delaware R.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 20:19 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <kf99qc-8ma.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #160249 |
In article <ddd3350b-66d3-491d-9022-43676051e823@googlegroups.com>, <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote: >On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 5:38:19 AM UTC-5, J. Clarke wrote: >> In article , dave.garland >> says... >> > >> > On 2/25/2016 8:41 PM, J. Clarke wrote: >> > >> > > Please provide an example of the United States government successfully >> > > "taking over the private sector". >> > >> > Air Traffic Control >> > Highways >> > Weather Service >> > Public Health (e.g. CDC) >> > Medicare >> > Social Security >> > Superfund cleanups >> > >> > Many examples of lower levels of government (firemen, water supply, >> > waste disposal, schools, health departments) >> > >> > All services that were provided poorly, if at all, by the "private" >> > sector. >> >> The challenge was to provide examples of services that had been offered >> by the private sector and were successfully taken over by the Federal >> government. That you do not know the difference between being taken >> over and being originated, the difference between the US government and >> state and local government, and that given recent news items "water >> supply" is a really bad example all suggest that you are an example of >> why "schools" is another bad example. > >Many of those listed above were originally operated by the private >sector, and the government had to take them over so they'd work >better. If you want to analyze what works in the private and in the public sector you must look to Europe, not to the US. There have been at least 25 different states trying out various mixes since Mrs Thatcher was elected. (That was the watershed that turned a whole continent away from socialism). Some consensus are appearing. Infrastructure generally work best in public, or in strongly regulated companies. Like the physical rails, roads, and the physical electrical grid and local fiber optical paths. These are natural monopolies, and form critical functions in society. The services on to of this, e.g. the rolling stock, cars and buses, the actual electricity, and the internet and telephone signals should not be the domain of the state. This should be for free enterprise, with a benign regulator just overseeing basic safety and monopoly control. >Highways were once privately owned (a few still exist*), but this >proved inadequate, and govt took them over. There are some (more than in the US) private highways in the EU, but they are all strictly regulated. >The airlines were unable to provide traffic control (even though the >railroads can do so), so the govt has been running it. > >Industry has been 'great' at making an enormous environmental mess, >and then walking away, leaving it for the taxpayer to clean up (Superfund >sites). Emergency health/fire responders are generally semi-public, with some company providing them; often 100% publically owned. These are strongly regulated, since they are monopolies. Police is always the state, since it kind of defines the state. Hospitals are often private, or semi-private, but are regulated. The rates for operations and other cures are often fixed in tenders by the single billing funder, with exception reporting for special cases. There are less than 5% special cases. This way the costs are generally less than half of what they are in the US. Up here in Scandinavia we pay a flat tax of ~15% to a special fund that covers all medical costs and basic pensions; up to ~50k$. This is run separately from the state's other business, and is pretty transparent. The medical bill overhead is around 6%. -- mrr
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| From | "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-26 08:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <djb5lvFhsjuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160207 |
"Dave Garland" wrote: > On 2/25/2016 8:41 PM, J. Clarke wrote: > >> Please provide an example of the United States government successfully >> "taking over the private sector". > > Air Traffic Control > Highways > Weather Service > Public Health (e.g. CDC) > Medicare > Social Security > Superfund cleanups > > Many examples of lower levels of government (firemen, water supply, waste > disposal, schools, health departments) > > All services that were provided poorly, if at all, by the "private" > sector. It's kind of amazing to me but there were housing devlopments where each house actually had it's own well and septic system.
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 10:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <823a3ef1-118a-4ad5-8c67-85d090c13c1d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #160213 |
On Friday, February 26, 2016 at 9:27:14 AM UTC-5, Osmium wrote: > It's kind of amazing to me but there were housing devlopments where each > house actually had it's own well and septic system. A great many housing developments were built that way. Some of them have discovered the wells are contaminated, and they are converting to piped in water and piped out sewage.
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-29 09:30 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nb1o0s$gt8$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #160203 |
On 25-Feb-16 20:41, J. Clarke wrote: > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says... >> J. Clarke wrote: >>> Well, yes, because "ACA" contains a lie--we're all for >>> "affordable care", but that is not something that Obamacare >>> provides. >> >> It has for lots of people. > > How, by charging higher premiums for policies with higher > deductibles? My deductible hasn't gone up a penny, and my premiums have gone up less in the last few years than they did before. > Obamacare is not cheap nor is the coverage particularly good. Coverage is the same or better than what people had before, and premium growth is now the lowest it's been in several decades. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 15:00 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nat2kl$vqm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #160177 |
On 25-Feb-16 04:25, J. Clarke wrote: > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com says... >> Lots of people who have a serious illness discovered the hard way >> that their health insurance policies were pretty bad, and they were >> left with unexpected very high out of pocket costs. I don't think >> such policies were "better". ACA attempts to correct some of >> that. > > The main "correction" was the eliminate caps on benefits The "main" change was eliminating the exclusion for preexisting conditions; eliminating the lifetime payout cap was so far down the list that most people aren't even aware of it. > --that could have been handled as easily by simply implementing > national medical disaster insurance, What, like the National Flood Insurance Program? That's been an unmitigated disaster. Note that the private sector _could_ have solved either problem itself via reinsurance or pooling, which are well-known in other parts of the insurance industry. But they chose not to. > that comes into effect at 2 million dollars or so in expenses (which > was the typical cap on private insurance). I suspect that there > would be little resistance to that option but nobody went for it Notably, the GOP hasn't even mentioned it as a component of their so called "repeal and replace" strategy, which seems to be all repeal and no replace. > --the democrats wanted a government-funded system Not at the time, but that has gained a lot of steam since then. > and the voters, being aware that everything nonmilitary that the > government touches turns to crap, supported them. ... because the GOP hamstrings every govt agency to the point it _has_ to fail, which conveniently matches their agenda of showing how the govt "can't" do anything well--and how we should spend far more money to "privatize" things, even though the govt could do the same things far cheaper and at least as successfully without the GOP's meddling. >> It certainly seems that criticism of ACA is partisan and comes out >> of the right wing. >> >> As mentioned, when surveys refer to it as 'ACA', it gets a much >> better rating than when referred to as 'Obamacare' > > Well, yes, because "ACA" contains a lie--we're all for "affordable > care", but that is not something that Obamacare provides. I disagree, but that's not the point anyway. Obamacare _is_ the ACA, yet polls show nearly all Americans like the ACA but half of them hate Obamacare. So, the latter's complaints are not about the ACA itself at all; they're about the Kenyan Muslim Communist Anti-Christ. It's similar it pretty much every field. For instance, if you ask people about universal background checks for gun buyers, something like 91% of Americans (including 87% of NRA members) support it--until you point out that the Kenyan Muslim Communist Anti-Christ supports that policy, and then half of the folks polled change their answers. S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 13:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <c00f61fc-f8ee-4519-bace-6f07d3809fce@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #160258 |
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 4:00:59 PM UTC-5, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > ... because the GOP hamstrings every govt agency to the point it _has_ > to fail, which conveniently matches their agenda of showing how the govt > "can't" do anything well--and how we should spend far more money to > "privatize" things, even though the govt could do the same things far > cheaper and at least as successfully without the GOP's meddling. At this point I'll mention again how the GOP sabotaged Amtrak which impacted service and wasted serious money: The GOP mandated that Amtrak get high level approval for any capital repairs, even minor ones. So, say a switch fails. Instead of repairing it, Amtrak must submit a request for approval. That takes a long time. In the meantime, Amtrak has to staff repairmen at the switch 24/7 to work it manually; that is very costly. Further, manual operation is cumbersome and slow. But then the GOP points to stuff like this as "examples" of how Amtrak is "bad". > I disagree, but that's not the point anyway. Obamacare _is_ the ACA, > yet polls show nearly all Americans like the ACA but half of them hate > Obamacare. So, the latter's complaints are not about the ACA itself at > all; they're about the Kenyan Muslim Communist Anti-Christ. This is a very important point. Talk radio and Fox News have done a great job painting Obama in those terms. The GOP base really fervently believes he is the Kenyan Muslim Communist Anti-Christ. The GOP has said--since day one--they will do everything and anything to block every and any Obama proposal; they will not consider its merits. In reality, Obama's policies have actually been rather centrist. The GOP believes he has confiscated all guns in private hands, and he has done nothing. They think he's nationalized all industry, and he hasn't. > It's similar it pretty much every field. For instance, if you ask > people about universal background checks for gun buyers, something like > 91% of Americans (including 87% of NRA members) support it--until you > point out that the Kenyan Muslim Communist Anti-Christ supports that > policy, and then half of the folks polled change their answers. Yep.
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| From | Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 17:16 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <nataj1$vfl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #160258 |
On 27-Feb-16 15:00, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > On 25-Feb-16 04:25, J. Clarke wrote: >> and the voters, being aware that everything nonmilitary that the >> government touches turns to crap, supported them. > > ... because the GOP hamstrings every govt agency to the point it > _has_ to fail, which conveniently matches their agenda of showing how > the govt "can't" do anything well--and how we should spend far more > money to "privatize" things, even though the govt could do the same > things far cheaper and at least as successfully without the GOP's > meddling. Perfect timing: https://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/21/1249246/-Tea-Party-logic S -- Stephen Sprunk "God does not play dice." --Albert Einstein CCIE #3723 "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the K5SSS dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
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| From | "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 18:22 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <djestlFgp87U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #160258 |
"Stephen Sprunk" wrote: > It's similar it pretty much every field. For instance, if you ask > people about universal background checks for gun buyers, something like > 91% of Americans (including 87% of NRA members) support it--until you > point out that the Kenyan Muslim Communist Anti-Christ supports that > policy, and then half of the folks polled change their answers. First of all I have no particular interest in gun control. But anyway your post piqued my interest. I had a devil of a time finding those polls but finally, I think I found the first poll you describe. There was another part there was no reason for you to mention, Namely: "Over half (53%) of non NRA members and 57% of NRA members believe the statement, “Everyone who wants to buy a gun has to pass a background check to complete the purchase” is true." I found it interesting that the general public knew *more* about buying guns than the NRA members. I wonder how one explains this? For some reason I was never able to find the second poll you mentioned where people changed their answer when Obama was mentioned. I'll keep looking ... . http://everytownresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Luntz-poll-07-24-2012.pdf
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| From | Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> |
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| Date | 2016-02-27 17:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <3cc1a410-b49a-4dd2-813d-e9420dcbb8f6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #160261 |
On Saturday, February 27, 2016 at 5:22:16 PM UTC-7, Osmium wrote: > I found it interesting that the general public knew *more* about buying guns > than the NRA members. I wonder how one explains this? The NRA members may have had actual experience of buying guns. And, indeed, one does have to pass a background check in order to buy a gun through most usual channels, although (at least until recently) gun shows were exempted. And private gun sales are exempted still, I suspect. Of course, there are also _state_ laws, some of which are quite restrictive. And so the NRA members could have read the question as asking about the usual case, or about everyone in their own state instead of in the U.S. as a whole. John Savard
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