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Re: Qbasic

From Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Qbasic
Date 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800
Organization Wheeler&Wheeler
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Ibmekon <Ibmekon> writes:
> Just so.
> The popular current context is the Derivatives market, unregulated but
> estimated at $1.2 quadrillion.
> Advocates say the size is immaterial, it is a "zero sum game".
> Of course if an Irish bank, eg AIB lost a few tens of billions to a
> German bank, eg Deutsche, the effect on the Irish taxpayer is not
> zero.
>
> In the "The Big Short", the guy who was first to realise the impending
> CFD CDO housing meltdown around 2007 was asked how he could predict
> this.
> He said there are signs before a market collapse - one indicator is
> when the financial products get ever more complex. It is a sign that
> Wallstreet is hiding the sh1t in an opaque wrapper.
>
> Carl Goldsworthy
> --
> Derivatives is a "zero sum game" - "The Big Lie". 


securitized mortgages had been used during the S&L crisis to obfuscate
fraudulent mortgages. Early 1999, I'm asked to look at improving the
integrity of mortgage supporting documents as countermeasure. A FED LEO
explains that many of the investment bankers walked away "clean" from
the S&L crisis and they were currently manipulating the INTERNET IPO
market mill and they were predicted to get into mortgages next.

The problem then is that they find they can pay the rating agencies for
triple-A rating (when both the sellers and the rating agencies know they
weren't worth triple-A from Oct2008 congressional testimony) on toxic
CDOs; triple-A rating trumps supporting documentation and they can start
doing no-documentation, liar loans.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

during the first part of the century up through the crash ... there are
periodic industry articles about how complex the math is to correctly
value these products ... which is largely obfuscation since valuation is
dependent on valid supporting documents ... which they didn't have.
During this period there were periodic comments about the enormous
amounts of money to be made playing the game ... but it was a little
like musical chairs ... you had to know when to get out just before the
music stops (they knew it would meltdown, it wasn't if, it was when).

from the law of unintended consequences ... the biggest fines on the
"too big to fail" (for all this) have been for the robo-signing mills
that were fabricating the documents for the no-documentation liar loans
... in order to file foreclosers. Note they were able to scam that also.
They setup the firms that were supposed to administer the fines for the
benefit of the foreclosure victims ... and little of the money actually
make it to the victims.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

When the chair of CFTC suggests regulating derivatives, the forces
are marsheled and the chair is replaced with the wife of #2 on times
list of those responsible for the financial mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

while the senator gets law passed prevented regulating derivatives
(billed as gift to ENRON who is heavily playing in derivatives), the
wife then resigns and joins the ENRON board and audit committee.

Originally triple-A rating on toxic CDOs eliminated any reason to care
about borrower's qualification or loan quality. Then they realize that
they can design toxic CDOs to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their
customer victims, and take out CDS/derivative gambling bets that they
would fail (they now have reason to care about loan quality, they
want large numbers that are as bad as possible)

The largest holder of the CDS gambling bets was AIG and is negotiating
to pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the secretary of treasury steps
in and says that they have to sign a document that they can't sue those
making the gambling bets and forced to take TARP funds to pay off the
CDS gambling bets at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is
AIG and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the firm formally
headed by the secretary of treasury.

-- 
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                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-05 09:50 -0800
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                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 20:06 -0700
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-05 20:06 -0700
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-05 20:36 -0800
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                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
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                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:59 +1100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 03:11 +1100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-08 13:16 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 08:07 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 14:58 -0800
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 00:32 +0000
                Re: Basic - lies about Medicare "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 11:58 +1100
                Re: Basic - lies about Medicare mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-09 11:28 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-09 11:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:01 -0800
                Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:18 -0700
                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-08 15:06 -0400
                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-09 13:41 +0000
                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-09 06:48 -0700
                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:44 +1100
                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-10 13:24 +0000
                Re: Water: was Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-10 14:14 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-09 05:09 +1100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-03-08 11:23 -0800
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-06 09:54 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 01:57 +1100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-07 01:13 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 +1100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 11:51 +1100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:24 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:57 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
                Re: computer security hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 14:36 -0800
                Re: computer security Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 19:31 -0700
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-05 13:57 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:37 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-06 00:35 +0100
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-06 14:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 21:34 -0500
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-17 13:17 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-03-17 14:17 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 15:01 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-02 10:37 -0500
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:47 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-27 00:28 -0500
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-27 06:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-28 14:03 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:47 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 14:52 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 09:25 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:33 -0600
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-27 08:32 +0000
                Re: Qbasic - lies about Medicare Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-02-27 11:21 -0500
                Re: Qbasic pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-25 15:31 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0600
                Re: Qbasic pechter@chuckie.(none) (William Pechter) - 2016-02-25 17:28 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-25 08:11 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 10:40 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:37 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-23 12:29 -0600
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-24 13:55 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 15:24 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:13 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:23 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 17:38 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 17:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:41 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 01:21 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:00 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:48 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 16:43 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 20:49 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 18:15 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 17:59 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 19:30 -0600
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:20 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-24 17:58 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:38 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 05:25 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:31 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 15:53 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:41 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 14:55 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 20:18 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:23 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-26 12:15 +0100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:24 -0800
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:14 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 23:34 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:38 -0500
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:46 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 10:14 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:15 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 14:23 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 15:50 -0500
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:46 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:40 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:25 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:40 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:32 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 10:39 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:23 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 14:27 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:58 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:22 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:03 +1100
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 13:52 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:56 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-26 12:51 -0600
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-26 23:12 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-27 09:17 +0000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-27 14:37 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-27 17:08 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-28 09:57 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-28 15:56 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-28 19:00 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-29 22:14 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-01 22:26 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:26 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 13:46 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-02 21:09 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 05:33 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-02 19:28 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-03 01:02 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-16 17:59 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-17 10:42 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:21 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:19 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 08:27 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:25 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:30 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 15:00 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 13:52 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 17:16 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 18:22 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-27 17:12 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:23 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 05:43 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:34 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:41 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 11:16 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 14:57 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:55 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:46 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:22 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 16:17 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 09:58 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:17 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:25 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:14 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:20 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:35 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:35 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:19 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-08 00:48 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:49 +1100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:12 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0600
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:49 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 11:03 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:51 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 15:56 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:26 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:30 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:10 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 10:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 18:41 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:12 -0600
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:18 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 03:28 -0700
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:48 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:09 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:15 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:22 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:13 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:28 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-28 12:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:32 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:40 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:36 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 18:06 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 20:27 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:22 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:38 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:40 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 06:42 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:35 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:00 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:54 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 10:51 +0100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:05 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 22:06 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:01 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-29 08:58 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 05:01 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:24 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:59 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:59 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:06 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 09:12 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:37 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:24 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:18 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 06:04 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:33 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 11:25 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:47 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-28 10:58 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:51 +1100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:01 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 04:17 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:38 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:44 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:46 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:59 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:56 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 22:53 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:44 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 14:02 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:51 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 11:36 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:58 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:20 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 10:16 -0800
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 21:03 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:23 +1100
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:02 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 11:18 +1100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:19 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 15:14 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:24 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:53 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:13 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:15 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:38 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-09 12:38 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-09 19:15 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 05:06 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 09:35 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 07:42 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 04:14 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-10 15:52 -0600
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-02 14:19 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:23 -0700
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-02 07:29 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:04 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-02 12:50 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:55 +1100
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:37 +1100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:40 +0000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:34 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 11:47 -0800
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 22:07 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:16 +1100
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 15:54 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:44 +1100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 16:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 15:08 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:19 -0800
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:11 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:56 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:21 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:57 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:56 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:37 +1100
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:28 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:41 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:16 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:24 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 14:41 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:42 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:55 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:16 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:00 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:12 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 18:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 21:06 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 23:13 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:25 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 23:36 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 12:56 +0100
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 10:32 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 10:06 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:38 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:10 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 19:41 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 05:09 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:09 +1100
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-25 08:50 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-25 10:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:34 -0700

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