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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
> I think I mentioned that back in the 1980s Arthur Andersen & Co. (of
> Enron fame) was hired by my employer at the time to rewrite a major
> system.  They introduced a 'productivity' framework, "Programmers
> Workbench".  Supposedly it sped up coding and made junior programmers
> right out of school productive.  But it introduced a lot of overhead
> and they had to get a more powerful mainframe to handle the load.  Also,
> later on they discovered it wasn't Y2K compatible, and also had some
> problems with newer releases of IMS.  In the end, it all had to be scrapped
> and a huge bunch of programs rewritten.
>
> When AA collapsed after Enron, it was a shame that a lot of good people
> lost their jobs.  But it was hard to feel sorry for AA&Co as they were
> extremely arrogant and difficult to deal with.  Management was convinced
> they were gods and whatever they said was gospel, even if they were flat
> out wrong.  Talented staff members with long experience were ignored
> when they pointed out potential problems, and they turned out to be right.

AA had two parts, auditing and consulting.

Long ago and far away, we were brought into consultants to small
client/server startup that wanted to do payment transactions on their
server, they had also invented this technology called "SSL" they wanted
to use, the result is now frequently referred to as "electronic
commerce". The bldg next door was a warehouse and the small
client/server startup had put in cubicles full of AA (consulting)
programmers.

Turn of the century, rhetoric in congress was that Sarbanes-Oxley would
prevent future ENRONs and guarentee that executives (and auditors) did
jailtime ... however it required SEC to do something. Joke at the time
was Sarbanes-Oxley with its increased audit requirements was really a
gift to the audit indusry ... nothing would actually change.  Possibly
because even GAO didn't believe that SEC was doing anything, it starts
doing reports of public company fraudulent financial filings, even
showing the reporting fraud increased after Sarbanes-Oxley goes into
effect.

ENRON posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#enron
Sarbanes-Oxley posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#sarbanes-oxley
Fraudulent Financial Filing post
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#financial.reporting.fraud

#2 on times list of those responsible for the financial mess
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877330,00.html

GLBA that includes repeal of glass-steagall, posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagal

However, when the chair of CFTC suggests regulating CDSes (heavily used by
ENRON), the chair is quickly replaced by Gramm's wife, until Gramm can
get legislation passed that prevents regulation of CDSes, then his wife
resigns and joins the ENRON board and audit committee (characterized
as gift to ENRON).

Later of course, the sellers of triple-A rated (that were paid for even
when rating agencies knew they weren't worth triple-A) CDOs go from
not carrying about loan quality and borrower's qualifications to doing
triple-A rated CDOs designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their
victims, and then take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

Turns out that Sarbanes-Oxley also calls for SEC to do something about
rating agencies, but SEC did about as much about rating agencies as they
did about the public company fraudulent financial filings.

The largest holder of the CDS gambling bets was AIG and is negotiating to
pay off at 50cents on the dollar when the secretary of treasury steps in
and says that they have to sign a document that they can't sue those
making the gambling bets and forced to take TARP funds to pay off the
CDS gambling bets at face value. The largest recipient of TARP funds is
AIG and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the firm formally
headed by the secretary of treasury.

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