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NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind William Gigantus <bigwilly@shtc.net> - 2015-07-03 22:20 -0400
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-05 08:30 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 08:15 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-07-05 16:26 +0100
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 10:45 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-05 18:53 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-05 14:56 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-06 05:32 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 04:04 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-08 03:15 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-08 04:19 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-07-06 11:12 -0400
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-06 15:16 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-06 22:26 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-07-06 20:01 -0400
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 03:46 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-07-07 15:22 -0400
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 20:27 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 03:37 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-11 09:38 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 04:43 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-11 09:23 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-11 23:10 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind uchrisbrown2@gmail.com - 2015-07-11 16:05 -0700
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 04:11 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-07-12 10:28 -0400
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-12 14:40 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-07-13 11:37 -0400
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-13 16:37 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-16 07:27 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 04:05 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-17 03:03 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 03:54 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-17 08:48 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 03:55 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-14 08:48 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-14 04:23 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-16 07:13 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-16 04:04 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-07-17 03:13 +0200
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-17 03:54 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-09 03:38 -0500
Re: NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-07-07 03:45 -0500
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| From | William Gigantus <bigwilly@shtc.net> |
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| Date | 2015-07-03 22:20 -0400 |
| Subject | NATO and the CIA are the Two Greatest Enemies of Mankind |
| Message-ID | <ideepa5o47oqbesar6abilfaq19qtj0st8@4ax.com> |
The NATO Buildup On Russia's Border - Groundless Pretext For Cold War Revival http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/nato-buildup-russias-border-groundless-pretext-cold-war-revival Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/28/2015 22:30 -0400 Every major act of evil in my lifetime can be traced back to the Central Intelligence Agency and/or NATO. JFK Assassination, Moon Hoax, Zionism, Gulf of Tonkin, 9-11, Invasion of Iraq, Chemtrail Genocide, Invasion of Afghanistan, HAARP, Drone Executions Without Trial, Bank Foreclosures, War on Drugs, War on Peace, War on Gun Ownership, War on Truth, War on Whistle-blowers, War on Russia, War on Iran, War on Syria, War on Palestine, War on the United States (Jade Helm). NATO and the CIA - Two evil peas in the same rotten pod.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-07-05 08:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <cvs18tF4b6mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #261369 |
Am 04.07.2015 11:25, schrieb naazim palan: > On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:20:05 AM UTC+1, William Gigantus wrote: >> The NATO Buildup On Russia's Border - Groundless Pretext For Cold War >> Revival >> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/nato-buildup-russias-border-groundless-pretext-cold-war-revival >> Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/28/2015 22:30 -0400 >> >> Every major act of evil in my lifetime can be traced back to the >> Central Intelligence Agency and/or NATO. >> >> JFK Assassination, Moon Hoax, Zionism, Gulf of Tonkin, 9-11, Invasion >> of Iraq, Chemtrail Genocide, Invasion of Afghanistan, HAARP, Drone >> Executions Without Trial, Bank Foreclosures, War on Drugs, War on >> Peace, War on Gun Ownership, War on Truth, War on Whistle-blowers, War >> on Russia, War on Iran, War on Syria, War on Palestine, War on the >> United States (Jade Helm). >> >> NATO and the CIA - Two evil peas in the same rotten pod. > > You've forgotten > The ice bucket challenge > Nostradamus > One Direction > The death of Genghis Khan > Christmas > Guru Nanak > Igloos > Siege of Troy > Raspberry ice cream > Carpets This is a difficult challenge: find a single cause for all of these events. But possibly the Siege of Troy and Christmas could be linked to 9-11: the old ancient believed in a sun-good, the Egyptians called 'Horus'. The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called 'Hercules'. They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time). Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading group in worldwide travel (of this time). The sun-god now wears (female!) clothes, but still is depicted in the main port of the Phoenicians, (who actually use a different name today). This sun-god has birthday on the 25th of December (commonly known as 'Christmas'). The most recent 'collosus' is - of course- the 'Statue of Liberty', as could be seen in the torch and the seven rays. Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed the Twintowers ;-) (Ice cream is actually also a Phoenician invention, since Naples was another of their main ports, but, as far as I know, they have not killed Tshingis Khan). TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-05 08:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4cbipa1e3h73s50bppaqa2bl13o4jdn0g6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261406 |
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 08:30:45 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 04.07.2015 11:25, schrieb naazim palan:
>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:20:05 AM UTC+1, William Gigantus wrote:
>>> The NATO Buildup On Russia's Border - Groundless Pretext For Cold War
>>> Revival
>>> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/nato-buildup-russias-border-groundless-pretext-cold-war-revival
>>> Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/28/2015 22:30 -0400
>>>
>>> Every major act of evil in my lifetime can be traced back to the
>>> Central Intelligence Agency and/or NATO.
>>>
>>> JFK Assassination, Moon Hoax, Zionism, Gulf of Tonkin, 9-11, Invasion
>>> of Iraq, Chemtrail Genocide, Invasion of Afghanistan, HAARP, Drone
>>> Executions Without Trial, Bank Foreclosures, War on Drugs, War on
>>> Peace, War on Gun Ownership, War on Truth, War on Whistle-blowers, War
>>> on Russia, War on Iran, War on Syria, War on Palestine, War on the
>>> United States (Jade Helm).
>>>
>>> NATO and the CIA - Two evil peas in the same rotten pod.
>>
>> You've forgotten
>> The ice bucket challenge
>> Nostradamus
>> One Direction
>> The death of Genghis Khan
>> Christmas
>> Guru Nanak
>> Igloos
>> Siege of Troy
>> Raspberry ice cream
>> Carpets
>
>
>This is a difficult challenge: find a single cause for all of these events.
>
There is no single cause. Do you honestly think one thing was
behind The Ice Bucket Challenge, One Direction and Igloos?
Really?
>
>But possibly the Siege of Troy and Christmas could be linked to 9-11:
>
>the old ancient believed in a sun-good, the Egyptians called 'Horus'.
>
>The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called
>'Hercules'.
>
Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios.
>They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the
>harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time).
>
>Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading
>group in worldwide travel (of this time).
>
Are you going to claim, again, that forgeries prove the
Phoenicians were in South America?
>The sun-god now wears (female!) clothes, but still is depicted in the
>main port of the Phoenicians, (who actually use a different name today).
>
Phoenicians may not be correct either. Nothing of their has been
found. All we know comes from the writings of other cultures.
>This sun-god has birthday on the 25th of December (commonly known as
>'Christmas').
>
Where did you come up with the idea that Helios was born on Dec.
25th?
>The most recent 'collosus' is - of course- the 'Statue of Liberty', as
>could be seen in the torch and the seven rays.
>
>Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed
>the Twintowers ;-)
>
Um, it's a well known historic fact that the Greeks besieged
Troy.
> (Ice cream is actually also a Phoenician invention, since Naples was
>another of their main ports, but, as far as I know, they have not killed
>Tshingis Khan).
Since they no longer exist as a people, and since Khan died
centuries ago, it's safe to accept not only have they not killed him,
they aren't going to.
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-05 16:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mnbi8k$bec$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #261415 |
On 05/07/2015 14:15, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote: > On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 08:30:45 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> > wrote: > >> Am 04.07.2015 11:25, schrieb naazim palan: >>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:20:05 AM UTC+1, William Gigantus wrote: >>>> The NATO Buildup On Russia's Border - Groundless Pretext For Cold War >>>> Revival >>>> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/nato-buildup-russias-border-groundless-pretext-cold-war-revival >>>> Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/28/2015 22:30 -0400 >>>> >>>> Every major act of evil in my lifetime can be traced back to the >>>> Central Intelligence Agency and/or NATO. >>>> >>>> JFK Assassination, Moon Hoax, Zionism, Gulf of Tonkin, 9-11, Invasion >>>> of Iraq, Chemtrail Genocide, Invasion of Afghanistan, HAARP, Drone >>>> Executions Without Trial, Bank Foreclosures, War on Drugs, War on >>>> Peace, War on Gun Ownership, War on Truth, War on Whistle-blowers, War >>>> on Russia, War on Iran, War on Syria, War on Palestine, War on the >>>> United States (Jade Helm). >>>> >>>> NATO and the CIA - Two evil peas in the same rotten pod. >>> >>> You've forgotten >>> The ice bucket challenge >>> Nostradamus >>> One Direction >>> The death of Genghis Khan >>> Christmas >>> Guru Nanak >>> Igloos >>> Siege of Troy >>> Raspberry ice cream >>> Carpets >> >> >> This is a difficult challenge: find a single cause for all of these events. >> > > There is no single cause. Do you honestly think one thing was > behind The Ice Bucket Challenge, One Direction and Igloos? > Really? > When One Direction were in Alaska, they took up the 'Ice Bucket Challenge' & it all went wrong and in the end they looked like igloos. And I'm certain Nostradamus predicted the event. (Anybody can quote where Nostradamus predicted anything). >> >> But possibly the Siege of Troy and Christmas could be linked to 9-11: >> >> the old ancient believed in a sun-good, the Egyptians called 'Horus'. >> >> The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called >> 'Hercules'. >> > > Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios. > >> They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the >> harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time). >> >> Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading >> group in worldwide travel (of this time). >> > > Are you going to claim, again, that forgeries prove the > Phoenicians were in South America? > >> The sun-god now wears (female!) clothes, but still is depicted in the >> main port of the Phoenicians, (who actually use a different name today). >> > > Phoenicians may not be correct either. Nothing of their has been > found. All we know comes from the writings of other cultures. > >> This sun-god has birthday on the 25th of December (commonly known as >> 'Christmas'). >> > > Where did you come up with the idea that Helios was born on Dec. > 25th? > >> The most recent 'collosus' is - of course- the 'Statue of Liberty', as >> could be seen in the torch and the seven rays. >> >> Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed >> the Twintowers ;-) >> > > Um, it's a well known historic fact that the Greeks besieged > Troy. > >> (Ice cream is actually also a Phoenician invention, since Naples was >> another of their main ports, but, as far as I know, they have not killed >> Tshingis Khan). > > Since they no longer exist as a people, and since Khan died > centuries ago, it's safe to accept not only have they not killed him, > they aren't going to. > --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-05 10:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ctjipal51gmdtv5k7kb68us9qn2ot0eqlt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261420 |
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 16:26:32 +0100, Tony Dragon
<tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote:
>On 05/07/2015 14:15, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 08:30:45 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 04.07.2015 11:25, schrieb naazim palan:
>>>> On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:20:05 AM UTC+1, William Gigantus wrote:
>>>>> The NATO Buildup On Russia's Border - Groundless Pretext For Cold War
>>>>> Revival
>>>>> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/nato-buildup-russias-border-groundless-pretext-cold-war-revival
>>>>> Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/28/2015 22:30 -0400
>>>>>
>>>>> Every major act of evil in my lifetime can be traced back to the
>>>>> Central Intelligence Agency and/or NATO.
>>>>>
>>>>> JFK Assassination, Moon Hoax, Zionism, Gulf of Tonkin, 9-11, Invasion
>>>>> of Iraq, Chemtrail Genocide, Invasion of Afghanistan, HAARP, Drone
>>>>> Executions Without Trial, Bank Foreclosures, War on Drugs, War on
>>>>> Peace, War on Gun Ownership, War on Truth, War on Whistle-blowers, War
>>>>> on Russia, War on Iran, War on Syria, War on Palestine, War on the
>>>>> United States (Jade Helm).
>>>>>
>>>>> NATO and the CIA - Two evil peas in the same rotten pod.
>>>>
>>>> You've forgotten
>>>> The ice bucket challenge
>>>> Nostradamus
>>>> One Direction
>>>> The death of Genghis Khan
>>>> Christmas
>>>> Guru Nanak
>>>> Igloos
>>>> Siege of Troy
>>>> Raspberry ice cream
>>>> Carpets
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a difficult challenge: find a single cause for all of these events.
>>
>> There is no single cause. Do you honestly think one thing was
>> behind The Ice Bucket Challenge, One Direction and Igloos?
>> Really?
>
>When One Direction were in Alaska, they took up the 'Ice Bucket
>Challenge' & it all went wrong and in the end they looked like igloos.
>
>And I'm certain Nostradamus predicted the event. (Anybody can quote
>where Nostradamus predicted anything).
>
Where they there around Christmas time? And did they arrive in a
wooden horse while consuming Raspberry ice cream? If so, we can
presume all the rest factor in as well.
Ya know, I wouldn't be at all surprised if evidence where to come
forth showing that Harry Styles took my keys from the table, where I
left them, and put them on the keys hook next to the door, where
they're supposed to go.
Oh sure, everyone can point to the wife's admission that she
moved them, but that only proves she's a part of the conspiracy. I'm
fairly certain "Topo the Wonder Beagle" stood as look out.
--
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2015-07-05 18:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <cvt5obFdf86U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #261415 |
Am 05.07.2015 15:15, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): >> >> But possibly the Siege of Troy and Christmas could be linked to 9-11: >> >> the old ancient believed in a sun-good, the Egyptians called 'Horus'. >> >> The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called >> 'Hercules'. >> > > Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios. OK, that's correct! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and holding a torch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York, since they could erect their 'logo' there. The port is controlled by 'New York Port Authority', who was also the owner of the twin towers. The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo (What would bring us to the NASA and could eventually include the moon landing into this story.) >> They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the >> harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time). >> >> Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading >> group in worldwide travel (of this time). >> > > Are you going to claim, again, that forgeries prove the > Phoenicians were in South America? Actually New York is in North America. >> The sun-god now wears (female!) clothes, but still is depicted in the >> main port of the Phoenicians, (who actually use a different name today). >> > > Phoenicians may not be correct either. Nothing of their has been > found. All we know comes from the writings of other cultures. Ok, that's true. http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/features/world/asia/lebanon/phoenicians-text.html But we can identify these people by pictures of their ships. So, if we find such ships depicted somewhere, we can assume, the Phoenicians had sailed there. Scandinavia: http://cryptcracker.blogspot.de/2013/09/phoenicians-in-scandinavia.html North America: http://stevenmcollins.com/html/Bk1%20ch6%20Phoenician%20Maritime%20Skills%20pp206-232-1.html http://viewzone.com/phoenician.html South America https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9Kn-Q0TCw But this is actually a little difficult to prove. And you will most likely call me a liar again. So I leave this statement (Phoenicians have been in the Americas) as a possibility, not a fact. >> This sun-god has birthday on the 25th of December (commonly known as >> 'Christmas'). >> > > Where did you come up with the idea that Helios was born on Dec. > 25th? No, but other sun-gods were, since the winter solstice is often used as 'birthday' of the sun. >> The most recent 'collosus' is - of course- the 'Statue of Liberty', as >> could be seen in the torch and the seven rays. >> >> Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed >> the Twintowers ;-) >> > > Um, it's a well known historic fact that the Greeks besieged > Troy. Yes, but who were 'Greeks' in these times? Are those Greek different to what is called 'Phoenicians'? Rhodes is certainly a Greek island, like Spartha was a Greek town. TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-07-05 14:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <8l2jpat4uhf0iq4u845pn3mj46c7l2vjhd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261427 |
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 18:53:22 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 05.07.2015 15:15, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
>
>>> But possibly the Siege of Troy and Christmas could be linked to 9-11:
>>>
>>> the old ancient believed in a sun-good, the Egyptians called 'Horus'.
>>>
>>> The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called
>>> 'Hercules'.
>>
>> Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios.
>
>
>OK, that's correct!
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes
>
>But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it
>is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and
>holding a torch:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
>
>So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York,
>since they could erect their 'logo' there.
>
The Phoenicians don't exist. They haven't existed for about 2000
years.
FYI: The Statue of Liberty was a gift from the people of France.
If there was any influence on the area now known as France from the
Phoneticians, it was very minor. And likely not direct.
Had France been connected to the Mediterranean Sea, there would
have been a very real probability of influence. But everything
available on the matter shows the Phoneticians never traveled beyond
the Mediterranean Sea.
>The port is controlled by 'New York Port Authority', who was also the
>owner of the twin towers.
>
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had, and has,
ownership of the entire World Trade Center complex, but Silverstein
Properties and Westfield America owned the leases on the buildings.
Silverstein owned the leases on the twin towers.
>The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo'
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo
>
Apollo was the Greek god of music, truth and prophecy, healing
and light. The Roman version of Helios was Sol.
I've tried to get you to understand that linking to items that
show how you're wrong is a bad idea. But, as the post to which I am
replying proves, you are unable to grasp this on an intellectual
level. It is, sadly, beyond you.
>(What would bring us to the NASA and could eventually include the moon
>landing into this story.)
>
How does NASA and the Roman god Sol connect? I don't see it.
Keep in mind, Apollo was never the sun god, so you can't mean
him.
>>> They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the
>>> harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time).
>>>
>>> Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading
>>> group in worldwide travel (of this time).
>>
>> Are you going to claim, again, that forgeries prove the
>> Phoenicians were in South America?
>
>
>Actually New York is in North America.
>
Recently you claimed they had been to South America. You linked to
evidence long ago proved to be forgeries to support your claim. I'm
sure you recall the discussion we had.
>>> The sun-god now wears (female!) clothes, but still is depicted in the
>>> main port of the Phoenicians, (who actually use a different name today).
>>
>> Phoenicians may not be correct either. Nothing of their has been
>> found. All we know comes from the writings of other cultures.
>
>Ok, that's true.
>http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/features/world/asia/lebanon/phoenicians-text.html
>
>But we can identify these people by pictures of their ships. So, if we
>find such ships depicted somewhere, we can assume, the Phoenicians had
>sailed there.
>
We can do no such thing.
We can *speculate* that they were influential on the culture of
places where similar ships can be found.
>Scandinavia:
>http://cryptcracker.blogspot.de/2013/09/phoenicians-in-scandinavia.html
>
>North America:
>http://stevenmcollins.com/html/Bk1%20ch6%20Phoenician%20Maritime%20Skills%20pp206-232-1.html
>
>http://viewzone.com/phoenician.html
>
>South America
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9Kn-Q0TCw
>
>
>But this is actually a little difficult to prove.
Especially since, as we've already discussed, you only make use
of evidence proved to be forgeries. Just as you've done again.
>And you will most
>likely call me a liar again.
If you don't like the truth about you that is being stated, work
to change that truth.
>So I leave this statement (Phoenicians have
>been in the Americas) as a possibility, not a fact.
>
It is said that anything is possible, but this position of yours
is stretching it.
>
>>> This sun-god has birthday on the 25th of December (commonly known as
>>> 'Christmas').
>>
>> Where did you come up with the idea that Helios was born on Dec.
>> 25th?
>
>No, but other sun-gods were, since the winter solstice is often used as
>'birthday' of the sun.
>
You were writing about Helios.
Dec. 25th was the celebration of Saturnalia. This was a Roman
celebration of the god Saturn. Saturn was the god of generation,
dissolution, wealth, agriculture and liberation.
At no time was Saturn the sun god, Sol. As such, there is no way
Dec. 25th was ever a celebration of any sun god.
>>> The most recent 'collosus' is - of course- the 'Statue of Liberty', as
>>> could be seen in the torch and the seven rays.
>>>
>>> Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed
>>> the Twintowers ;-)
>>
>> Um, it's a well known historic fact that the Greeks besieged
>> Troy.
>
>
>Yes, but who were 'Greeks' in these times? Are those Greek different to
>what is called 'Phoenicians'?
>
Yes. Different language, different norms and mores in their
culture, etc.
There is nothing to support a claim they were the same. If you
have anything VALID to present that they were, I'll give it an honest
examination. Your guesses, assumptions, etc., will be disregarded.
>Rhodes is certainly a Greek island, like Spartha was a
>Greek town.
And neither were a part of the Phoenician empire. Certainly
nothing has been found to support a claim that they were.
Did the Phoneticians have an influence on the Greeks? Most
assuredly. But only a fool would claim this made them the same people.
--
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counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-06 05:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <cvub71Fmaj3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #261434 |
Am 05.07.2015 21:56, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): >>>> The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called >>>> 'Hercules'. >>> >>> Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios. >> >> >> OK, that's correct! >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes >> >> But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it >> is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and >> holding a torch: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty >> >> So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York, >> since they could erect their 'logo' there. >> > > The Phoenicians don't exist. They haven't existed for about 2000 > years. A large number of people do not simply vanish. So what happened to the Phoenicians? I used this statue (Collosus of Rhodes) at the entrance of the Phoenician port of Rhodes and compared it to the Statue of Liberty. By this I wanted to show, that the Phoenicians still exist, are still powerful are still in control of harbours. They had apparently changed their name and do not call themselves 'Phoenicians' any more (if they ever did). The Roman harbour - btw- had a similar statue, hence we can assume, they had control over Rome (at least its harbour), too. From Rome we can draw lines through history, to were Romans have been (France, England, Germany, Egypt and so forth) and assume, these people had left some kind of influence at former colonies. Their 'modus oprandi' and their field of interest was mainly gold and silver, trade, secrecy and keeping wealth inside the own circles and families. This we find in other realms, like in 'coporatism' as 'American way of business'. Also the 'City of London' seems to be run on similar ideas. Since all of these are relatively recent developments, we could assume, that these influential families still exist, but are known under other names. > FYI: The Statue of Liberty was a gift from the people of France. NO! It was a gift from the French Nation, not from the people. > If there was any influence on the area now known as France from the > Phoneticians, it was very minor. And likely not direct. > Had France been connected to the Mediterranean Sea, there would > have been a very real probability of influence. ??? France HAS a connection to the Mediterranean Sea! Main port there is Marseille. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marseille This town was founded by Greek sailors from the town Phocaea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phocaea This would fit into the description of 'Phoenician'. But everything > available on the matter shows the Phoneticians never traveled beyond No, wrong! There is actually evidence, that Phoenicians had their Gold from America, but had reason to keep this a secret. .. >> The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo' >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo >> > > Apollo was the Greek god of music, truth and prophecy, healing > and light. The Roman version of Helios was Sol. Well, yes. But meant with 'Apollo' was actually 'the Greek sun-god 'Helios'. This sun-god was in my opinion the 'logo' of the Phoenicians, even if the name has changed. We find similar symbolism e.g. in the South American cults of the Mayas, in Catholicism, in Japan, in Egypt and several other places. . >> (What would bring us to the NASA and could eventually include the moon >> landing into this story.) >> > > How does NASA and the Roman god Sol connect? I don't see it. > Keep in mind, Apollo was never the sun god, so you can't mean > him. If 'Apollo' was the Roman name for 'Helios', the name is different, but not the concept. .. TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-06 04:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k1hkpatgtim8she4jrdbmqs0o99n7gtru1@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261450 |
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 05:32:46 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 05.07.2015 21:56, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
>
>>>>> The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called
>>>>> 'Hercules'.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios.
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, that's correct!
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes
>>>
>>> But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it
>>> is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and
>>> holding a torch:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
>>>
>>> So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York,
>>> since they could erect their 'logo' there.
>>>
>>
>> The Phoenicians don't exist. They haven't existed for about 2000
>> years.
>
>A large number of people do not simply vanish.
>
No one has claimed the Phoenicians simply vanished.
>So what happened to the Phoenicians?
The most probable explanation is they merged with other cultures.
>
>I used this statue (Collosus of Rhodes) at the entrance of the
>Phoenician port of Rhodes and compared it to the Statue of Liberty. By
>this I wanted to show, that the Phoenicians still exist, are still
>powerful are still in control of harbours.
>
And yet, you failed. Since they had nothing to do with the Statue
of Liberty, you quest was doomed to failure from the start.
>They had apparently changed their name and do not call themselves
>'Phoenicians' any more (if they ever did).
>
So you're going to claim the French are the Phoenician? You must
to make the connection between the two statues.
>
>The Roman harbour - btw- had a similar statue, hence we can assume,
[the remained snipped unread.]
Assumptions are not facts. They are guesses. Present any and all
valid, verifiable facts for your claims.
--
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counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-08 03:15 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d03bttFsi5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #261434 |
Am 05.07.2015 21:56, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): .. >> OK, that's correct! >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes >> >> But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it >> is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and >> holding a torch: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty >> >> So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York, >> since they could erect their 'logo' there. >> > > The Phoenicians don't exist. They haven't existed for about 2000 > years. > FYI: The Statue of Liberty was a gift from the people of France. > If there was any influence on the area now known as France from the > Phoneticians, it was very minor. And likely not direct. How do you know? .. >> The port is controlled by 'New York Port Authority', who was also the >> owner of the twin towers. >> > > The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had, and has, > ownership of the entire World Trade Center complex, but Silverstein > Properties and Westfield America owned the leases on the buildings. > Silverstein owned the leases on the twin towers. Actually the US-legal-system is a little strange, in my eyes. Here we see this again, since I do not really understand the contract between Mr. Silverstein and the Port Authority. These large office buildings have been a property of the Port Authority of New York, what is a public company. Hence the large sums coming from the various tenants would bring a lot of money into budget of New York City. Silverstein was tenant of the entire former WTC complex. But why was the Port Authority allowed to make such a 'wholesale deal' with the Silverstein firm? And why was the deal not cancelled, once the building got destroyed? German laws about real-estate contracts are based on a different understanding of the term 'ownership'. So we have an owner (Port authority), who had tenants (here: only Silverstein) in their buildings and those pay rent. Once the building is destroyed by unforeseeable causes, the contract is void (e.g. earthquakes or similar disasters). But that would be German logic, what is apparently not applicable in New York. There you have a 'owned lease' and I cannot connect this to any type of contract we have in Germany. >> The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo' >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo >> > > Apollo was the Greek god of music, truth and prophecy, healing > and light. The Roman version of Helios was Sol. The Romans used the Greek name 'Apollo' for a sun-good, that was similar to Helios. And Apollo was popular in Rome. The name was Greek, of course, but the Greek Apollo was different to the Roman, since in Rome this name was used different to Greece. This was a typical Roman habit, since they always adopted some parts of other peoples believs, but 'Romanised' it. And Romans liked Greek culture, hence adopted a lot of the Greek pantheon. But the outcome was not always similar to the original, hence Roman Apollo could be a different deity than Greek Apollo. .. > How does NASA and the Roman god Sol connect? I don't see it. > Keep in mind, Apollo was never the sun god, so you can't mean > him. The Phoenicians do not stem from Italy, but from current Lebanon and Turkey. If Nasa would be in control of the Phoenicians, they could eventually like to use their former sun-god as a logo. That sun-god was not Helios neither, but had some kind of name from that former culture in the language, these people have spoken. This sun-god had the name 'Apollo' in Rome and since Rome is quite popular, they would use this language, instead of their own. >>>> They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the >>>> harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time). >>>> >>>> Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading >>>> group in worldwide travel (of this time). >>> .. >> http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/features/world/asia/lebanon/phoenicians-text.html >> >> But we can identify these people by pictures of their ships. So, if we >> find such ships depicted somewhere, we can assume, the Phoenicians had >> sailed there. >> > > We can do no such thing. No. Actually we can identify ships - even in simplistic drawings in caves. Since ships belong to certain cultures, we can identify the ancient travels by such 'visual records'. > We can *speculate* that they were influential on the culture of > places where similar ships can be found. History is always speculation, since you cannot ask ancient witnesses. Since the times in question are extremely remote, we have to allow more errors in our assumptions. >> Scandinavia: >> http://cryptcracker.blogspot.de/2013/09/phoenicians-in-scandinavia.html >> >> North America: >> http://stevenmcollins.com/html/Bk1%20ch6%20Phoenician%20Maritime%20Skills%20pp206-232-1.html >> >> http://viewzone.com/phoenician.html >> >> South America >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9Kn-Q0TCw >> >> >> But this is actually a little difficult to prove. > > Especially since, as we've already discussed, you only make use > of evidence proved to be forgeries. Just as you've done again. Once again one of your unjustified insults, since you claim, that my statements are wrong without even naming these statements and telling, why you think they are wrong. TH
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-08 04:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <k9qppapgon5g7qggqv71e16944dv22k27h@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261490 |
On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 03:15:36 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 05.07.2015 21:56, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
>..
>>> OK, that's correct!
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes
>>>
>>> But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it
>>> is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and
>>> holding a torch:
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty
>>>
>>> So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York,
>>> since they could erect their 'logo' there.
>>
>> The Phoenicians don't exist. They haven't existed for about 2000
>> years.
>> FYI: The Statue of Liberty was a gift from the people of France.
>> If there was any influence on the area now known as France from the
>> Phoneticians, it was very minor. And likely not direct.
>
>How do you know?
There is ample evidence that The Statue of Liberty was a gift
from France. 100% of the available evidence shows the Phoenicians
never traveled outside of the Mediterranean sea.
If you have any evidence to counter either item, present it.
>..
>>> The port is controlled by 'New York Port Authority', who was also the
>>> owner of the twin towers.
>>
>> The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey had, and has,
>> ownership of the entire World Trade Center complex, but Silverstein
>> Properties and Westfield America owned the leases on the buildings.
>> Silverstein owned the leases on the twin towers.
>
>Actually the US-legal-system is a little strange, in my eyes.
>
Which has nothing to do with ownership of the WTC.
>
>Here we see this again, since I do not really understand the contract
>between Mr. Silverstein and the Port Authority.
>
It's not difficult. Silversein rents the property from the Port
Authority of New York and New Jersey.
>These large office buildings have been a property of the Port Authority
>of New York, what is a public company.
It's the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
Since when is a governmental body a public company?
>Hence the large sums coming from
>the various tenants would bring a lot of money into budget of New York City.
And New Jersey.
Why are you unwilling to acknowledge New Jersey's part in
ownership?
>
>Silverstein was tenant of the entire former WTC complex.
Now you're simply lying.
>But why was the
>Port Authority allowed to make such a 'wholesale deal' with the
>Silverstein firm?
It owns the WTC. As such, it could have made such a deal. But it
didn't.
>
>And why was the deal not cancelled, once the building got destroyed?
What evidence do you have that it wasn't?
>
>German laws about real-estate contracts are based on a different
>understanding of the term 'ownership'. So we have an owner (Port
>authority), who had tenants (here: only Silverstein)
Liar.
And yes, your claim is a lie. There is ample evidence that
Westfield America also had leased properties. Your having snipped away
my pointing this out does not alter the truth you appear to hate.
>in their buildings
>and those pay rent.
>
Which is not relevant here.
>Once the building is destroyed by unforeseeable causes, the contract is
>void (e.g. earthquakes or similar disasters).
What does this have to do with anything being discussed?
>
>But that would be German logic, what is apparently not applicable in New
>York.
>
>There you have a 'owned lease' and I cannot connect this to any type of
>contract we have in Germany.
There is no such thing as an "owned lease."
That aside, since the lease did not take place in Germany, or
involve any German owned properties, it wouldn't connect to anything
in Germany.
>
>>> The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo'
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo
>>
>> Apollo was the Greek god of music, truth and prophecy, healing
>> and light. The Roman version of Helios was Sol.
>
>The Romans used the Greek name 'Apollo' for a sun-good, that was similar
>to Helios. And Apollo was popular in Rome.
>
I do wish you'd cease the constant lying. Sol was the sun god in
Rome. Your link above proves Apollo was Greek.
Your link is why I can state you're lying. You already know
Apollo was not Roman.
>The name was Greek, of course, but the Greek Apollo was different to the
>Roman, since in Rome this name was used different to Greece.
>
Since, as you've proved via your link, Apollo was never Roman,
your lie fails.
>This was a typical Roman habit, since they always adopted some parts of
>other peoples believs, but 'Romanised' it. And Romans liked Greek
>culture, hence adopted a lot of the Greek pantheon.
>
>But the outcome was not always similar to the original, hence Roman
>Apollo could be a different deity than Greek Apollo.
>
A Roman Apollo would need to exist first. And since you prove
with a link that Apollo was Greek, not Roman, you can only be seen as
lying here.
Or you could be trying to claim you're too stupid to check your
own cites before you offer them. But everyone reading will know you're
not stupid, so that's not a realistic option.
>..
>> How does NASA and the Roman god Sol connect? I don't see it.
>> Keep in mind, Apollo was never the sun god, so you can't mean
>> him.
>
>
>The Phoenicians do not stem from Italy, but from current Lebanon and Turkey.
>
Which has what to do with your claim of Sol and NASA being
connected?
>If Nasa would be in control of the Phoenicians, they could eventually
>like to use their former sun-god as a logo. That sun-god was not Helios
>neither, but had some kind of name from that former culture in the
>language, these people have spoken.
>
What does this have to do with your claim about Sol and NASA
being connected?
>This sun-god had the name 'Apollo'
Do stop LYING about this. You already PROVED Apollo was a Greek
god.
>in Rome and since Rome is quite
>popular, they would use this language, instead of their own.
Impossible, since you proved yourself a liar.
>
>>>>> They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the
>>>>> harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time).
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading
>>>>> group in worldwide travel (of this time).
>..
>
>
>>> http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/features/world/asia/lebanon/phoenicians-text.html
>>>
>>> But we can identify these people by pictures of their ships. So, if we
>>> find such ships depicted somewhere, we can assume, the Phoenicians had
>>> sailed there.
>>
>> We can do no such thing.
>
>No. Actually we can identify ships - even in simplistic drawings in caves.
>
We cannot assume what you want. Not if we wish to be honest.
>Since ships belong to certain cultures, we can identify the ancient
>travels by such 'visual records'.
>
Not so. We can speculate as to the influence.
>
>> We can *speculate* that they were influential on the culture of
>> places where similar ships can be found.
>
>History is always speculation, since you cannot ask ancient witnesses.
>
>Since the times in question are extremely remote, we have to allow more
>errors in our assumptions.
>
We can't make assumptions.
Once again you want to make use of guesses (assumptions) to
support your claims.
>>> Scandinavia:
>>> http://cryptcracker.blogspot.de/2013/09/phoenicians-in-scandinavia.html
>>>
>>> North America:
>>> http://stevenmcollins.com/html/Bk1%20ch6%20Phoenician%20Maritime%20Skills%20pp206-232-1.html
>>>
>>> http://viewzone.com/phoenician.html
>>>
>>> South America
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9Kn-Q0TCw
>>>
>>>
>>> But this is actually a little difficult to prove.
>>
>> Especially since, as we've already discussed, you only make use
>> of evidence proved to be forgeries. Just as you've done again.
>
>Once again one of your unjustified insults, since you claim, that my
>statements are wrong without even naming these statements and telling,
>why you think they are wrong.
How many claims have you made using forged evidence as support?
The context of the conversation makes it very clear that I'm
commenting about your claim that the Phoenicians visited South
America. That you snipped away the context, in a futile attempt to
divert from your claims, does not alter this truth in any way.
--
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counselor
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| From | BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-06 11:12 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.300464f54d10a02c98c16a@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #261427 |
In article <cvt5obFdf86U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says... > > Am 05.07.2015 15:15, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): > > >> > >> But possibly the Siege of Troy and Christmas could be linked to 9-11: > >> > >> the old ancient believed in a sun-good, the Egyptians called 'Horus'. > >> > >> The Greeks had the same idea of a personified sun-god, they called > >> 'Hercules'. > >> > > > > Nope. The Greek sun god was Helios. > > > OK, that's correct! > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus_of_Rhodes > > But now we compare this statue to the 'Statue of Liberty' and find, it > is the exact same idea: colossal statue in the harbour, seven ray and > holding a torch: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty > > So we know, that Phoneticians have control of the harbour of New York, > since they could erect their 'logo' there. BWAHAHAHAHA! Every so often, you come up with some bizarre(to put it mildly) connection to something or between something, that doesn't really exist, and this is the best one you've posted in a long time. Phonetians? kOO kOO kOO! > > The port is controlled by 'New York Port Authority', who was also the > owner of the twin towers. Well, port authorities exist and control a lot of things, all over this country. > > The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo' > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo > > (What would bring us to the NASA and could eventually include the moon > landing into this story.) Because they called the moon project Apollo? You're getting desperate and really insane now. > > >> They build an enormous statue, called 'colossus of Rhodes' in the > >> harbour or their main port (Rhodes at that time). > >> > >> Actually this harbour belonged to the Phoenicians, who were the leading > >> group in worldwide travel (of this time). > >> > > > > Are you going to claim, again, that forgeries prove the > > Phoenicians were in South America? > > > Actually New York is in North America. > > >> The sun-god now wears (female!) clothes, but still is depicted in the > >> main port of the Phoenicians, (who actually use a different name today). > >> > > > > Phoenicians may not be correct either. Nothing of their has been > > found. All we know comes from the writings of other cultures. > > Ok, that's true. > http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/features/world/asia/lebanon/phoenicians-text.html > > But we can identify these people by pictures of their ships. So, if we > find such ships depicted somewhere, we can assume, the Phoenicians had > sailed there. > > Scandinavia: > http://cryptcracker.blogspot.de/2013/09/phoenicians-in-scandinavia.html > > North America: > http://stevenmcollins.com/html/Bk1%20ch6%20Phoenician%20Maritime%20Skills%20pp206-232-1.html > > http://viewzone.com/phoenician.html > > South America > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv9Kn-Q0TCw > > > But this is actually a little difficult to prove. And you will most > likely call me a liar again. So I leave this statement (Phoenicians have > been in the Americas) as a possibility, not a fact. > > > >> This sun-god has birthday on the 25th of December (commonly known as > >> 'Christmas'). > >> > > > > Where did you come up with the idea that Helios was born on Dec. > > 25th? > > No, but other sun-gods were, since the winter solstice is often used as > 'birthday' of the sun. > > >> The most recent 'collosus' is - of course- the 'Statue of Liberty', as > >> could be seen in the torch and the seven rays. > >> > >> Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed > >> the Twintowers ;-) > >> > > > > Um, it's a well known historic fact that the Greeks besieged > > Troy. > > > Yes, but who were 'Greeks' in these times? Are those Greek different to > what is called 'Phoenicians'? > > Rhodes is certainly a Greek island, like Spartha was a > Greek town. > > > > TH You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected. -- BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies. Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former Black Helicopter color consultant.
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-06 15:16 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qfolpaljcff4efaiilj67vv0io3ui09fmt@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261465 |
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 11:12:43 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:
[...]
>> The Roman name of Helios was 'Apollo'
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo
>>
>> (What would bring us to the NASA and could eventually include the moon
>> landing into this story.)
>
>Because they called the moon project Apollo? You're getting desperate
>and really insane now.
>
Apollo was Greek, not Roman. The Roman sun god was Sol.
What is most sad is that Thomas links to a Wiki article that
shows Apollo was Greek.
[...]
>> >> Since the Phoenicians besieged Troy, we know they have also destroyed
>> >> the Twintowers ;-)
>> >
>> > Um, it's a well known historic fact that the Greeks besieged
>> > Troy.
>>
>>
>> Yes, but who were 'Greeks' in these times? Are those Greek different to
>> what is called 'Phoenicians'?
>>
>> Rhodes is certainly a Greek island, like Spartha was a
>> Greek town.
>>
>>
>>
>> TH
>
>You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most
>bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected.
That would be fun to see.
--
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counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-06 22:26 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d006itF6nb1U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #261465 |
Am 06.07.2015 17:12, schrieb BDK: > You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most > bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected. Actually it was 'naazim palam' who wrote, that 'william gigantus' should include those subjects. I wrote a story, that would somehow connect these subject and would bring them into some kind of 'story'. This story was woven around the Phoenicians, since this group would somehow fit. But it's still fiction (or: something to think about) and not a historic fact. TH
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| From | BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-06 20:01 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3004e0dbd4b2692a98c16c@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #261474 |
In article <d006itF6nb1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says... > > Am 06.07.2015 17:12, schrieb BDK: > > You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most > > bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected. > > > Actually it was 'naazim palam' who wrote, that 'william gigantus' should > include those subjects. > > I wrote a story, that would somehow connect these subject and would > bring them into some kind of 'story'. > > This story was woven around the Phoenicians, since this group would > somehow fit. But it's still fiction (or: something to think about) and > not a historic fact. > > > TH Ummmm, what? -- BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies. Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former Black Helicopter color consultant.
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-07 03:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4e4npa9301io4apovk3bd9ivrb8ojs5qof@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261476 |
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:01:16 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:
>In article <d006itF6nb1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
>>
>> Am 06.07.2015 17:12, schrieb BDK:
>> > You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most
>> > bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected.
>>
>>
>> Actually it was 'naazim palam' who wrote, that 'william gigantus' should
>> include those subjects.
>>
>> I wrote a story, that would somehow connect these subject and would
>> bring them into some kind of 'story'.
>>
>> This story was woven around the Phoenicians, since this group would
>> somehow fit. But it's still fiction (or: something to think about) and
>> not a historic fact.
>>
>>
>> TH
>
>Ummmm, what?
You haven't noticed Thomas' attempts to divert attention from his
claims before? When he's proved wrong he will either abandon a thread
or attempt to divert attention from his claims.
--
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counselor
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| From | BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-07 15:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3005f0f46b4a918398c16d@news.giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #261479 |
In article <4e4npa9301io4apovk3bd9ivrb8ojs5qof@4ax.com>, compuelf@gmail.com says... > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:01:16 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> > wrote: > > >In article <d006itF6nb1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says... > >> > >> Am 06.07.2015 17:12, schrieb BDK: > >> > You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most > >> > bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected. > >> > >> > >> Actually it was 'naazim palam' who wrote, that 'william gigantus' should > >> include those subjects. > >> > >> I wrote a story, that would somehow connect these subject and would > >> bring them into some kind of 'story'. > >> > >> This story was woven around the Phoenicians, since this group would > >> somehow fit. But it's still fiction (or: something to think about) and > >> not a historic fact. > >> > >> > >> TH > > > >Ummmm, what? > > You haven't noticed Thomas' attempts to divert attention from his > claims before? When he's proved wrong he will either abandon a thread > or attempt to divert attention from his claims. I just got confused by the whole thing, I guess. -- BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies. Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former Black Helicopter color consultant.
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-07 20:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <gqtopa1riprkoob6p2l2vu0lfpbvtqsts5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261488 |
On Tue, 7 Jul 2015 15:22:15 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:
>In article <4e4npa9301io4apovk3bd9ivrb8ojs5qof@4ax.com>,
>compuelf@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:01:16 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <d006itF6nb1U1@mid.individual.net>, ttt_heg@web.de says...
>> >>
>> >> Am 06.07.2015 17:12, schrieb BDK:
>> >> > You and EOHOE should have a contest to see who can come up with the most
>> >> > bizarre connection to things that aren't actually connected.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Actually it was 'naazim palam' who wrote, that 'william gigantus' should
>> >> include those subjects.
>> >>
>> >> I wrote a story, that would somehow connect these subject and would
>> >> bring them into some kind of 'story'.
>> >>
>> >> This story was woven around the Phoenicians, since this group would
>> >> somehow fit. But it's still fiction (or: something to think about) and
>> >> not a historic fact.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> TH
>> >
>> >Ummmm, what?
>>
>> You haven't noticed Thomas' attempts to divert attention from his
>> claims before? When he's proved wrong he will either abandon a thread
>> or attempt to divert attention from his claims.
>
>I just got confused by the whole thing, I guess.
I heard the main office is being audited. If this is true, your
not being able to devote full attention to Thomas and his means of
avoidance is understandable.
The Midwest branch isn't scheduled for an audit until September,
but Gladys in Records is already going bonkers demanding everyone get
their quarterly 11-15-15-11 files in.
--
Music soothes the savage beast...unless it's polka.
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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-09 03:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <lmcspat6vr06s8cbg0rfsdmqu0svsn8fh5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #261491 |
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 15:22:32 +1000, Government Shill #2
<gov.shill@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:41:30 +0200, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>
>>Am 08.07.2015 03:27, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
>>>>>>> This story was woven around the Phoenicians, since this group would
>>>>>>> >> >> somehow fit. But it's still fiction (or: something to think about) and
>>>>>>> >> >> not a historic fact.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> TH
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >Ummmm, what?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You haven't noticed Thomas' attempts to divert attention from his
>>>>> >> claims before? When he's proved wrong he will either abandon a thread
>>>>> >> or attempt to divert attention from his claims.
>>>> >
>>>> >I just got confused by the whole thing, I guess.
>>> I heard the main office is being audited. If this is true, your
>>> not being able to devote full attention to Thomas and his means of
>>> avoidance is understandable.
>>
>>
>>I have no idea, what 'main office' you mean. (Phoenicians?)
>>
>>> The Midwest branch isn't scheduled for an audit until September,
>>> but Gladys in Records is already going bonkers demanding everyone get
>>> their quarterly 11-15-15-11 files in.
>>
>>Midwest is far away, so they could eventually be unaffected by what I
>>write into the UseNet. (Maybe the German branch needs to plan for some
>>extra-hours and try to make something out of my statements.)
>>
>>I - for my side - have no idea, what 'quarterly 11-15-15-11 files' are
>>and what you are talking about.
>>
>>TH
>
>Hahahahahahahaa!
>
>Thomas is German guys. He doesn't get humour. Ve ahv vays off makin you be
>SERIUS! No Laffing. Laffing is VERBOTEN!
>
>That and the paranoia. As we found out last week, paranoics don't have a sense
>of humour.
>
It is sad that Thomas can't understand a lame joke. I haven't
seen any other indications of paranoia on his part, but I can't rule
it out.
--
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counselor
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-07-11 09:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d0bvftF5jvcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #261521 |
Am 09.07.2015 10:37, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3): ... >>> I - for my side - have no idea, what 'quarterly 11-15-15-11 files' are >>> and what you are talking about. >>> >>> TH >> >> Hahahahahahahaa! >> >> Thomas is German guys. He doesn't get humour. Ve ahv vays off makin you be >> SERIUS! No Laffing. Laffing is VERBOTEN! >> >> That and the paranoia. As we found out last week, paranoics don't have a sense >> of humour. >> > > It is sad that Thomas can't understand a lame joke. I haven't > seen any other indications of paranoia on his part, but I can't rule > it out. > Well, I understand the joke. But in German language serial numbering of letters would be a very silly idea, since this would require a certain alphabet as accepted standard. German has these letters, too: ö ü ä ß. Now the 'ä' is 'Umlaut' to 'a'. So 'ä' is the second letter of the alphabet (next to its base 'a'). Or not? Hmmm... There is certainly a 'standard alphabet', since Germans have norms about almost everything. But is the 'ä' the second letter - or what number has it???? Actually I don't know. So the Germans try to avoid numbering of letters, hence do not understand related jokes. TH
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