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| Started by | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| First post | 2021-05-30 09:36 -0700 |
| Last post | 2021-05-30 11:50 -0700 |
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Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 09:36 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-05-30 09:47 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 09:56 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-05-30 10:37 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 11:20 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-05-30 14:25 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 16:06 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-05-30 16:21 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 16:34 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2021-05-30 19:06 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-30 12:53 -0500
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 11:48 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 11:52 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 11:56 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-05-31 00:28 -0500
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-31 07:56 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-05-30 10:47 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 11:50 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2021-05-30 10:57 -0700
Re: Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-30 11:50 -0700
| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 09:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Undoing copying gmail messages to another e-mail account |
| Message-ID | <ihht8sF6rj9U1@mid.individual.net> |
I have two e-mail accounts set up in Thunderbird. One is my main e-mail account, in a private domain, and the other is a gmail account. Both are IMAP. When I first set up Thunderbird for e-mail, I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my main accounts inbox. I've now decided that I don't like that, but I can't remember how I did it, so I cant figure out how to undo what I had done. Can someone help? -- Ken
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 09:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihhtt4F6v8tU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #565 |
Ken Blake wrote: > I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my > main accounts inbox. Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP tab/ Forwarding: disable forwarding -- Mike Easter
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 09:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihhuedF72ceU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #566 |
On 5/30/2021 9:47 AM, Mike Easter wrote: > Ken Blake wrote: >> I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my >> main accounts inbox. > > Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP > tab/ Forwarding: When I get there, I see a button for "Add a forwarding address," but there's no choice for "disable forwarding." > disable forwarding However note that what I said before about IMAP was wrong, The status IMAP is disabled. There's also the status POP is disabled. -- Ken
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 10:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi0rhF7h6mU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #567 |
Ken Blake wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: >> Ken Blake wrote: >>> I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my >>> main accounts inbox. >> >> Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP >> tab/ Forwarding: > > > When I get there, I see a button for "Add a forwarding address," but > there's no choice for "disable forwarding." > Are you sure you are getting the 'full picture'? That is, there is a slider; maybe your view of 'disable forwarding' is obscured. You should be able to see the option disable forwarding even if you/one weren't currently forwarding. > > However note that what I said before about IMAP was wrong, The status > IMAP is disabled. There's also the status POP is disabled. > I wonder how your Tb is getting its gmail if both pop & imap are disabled. Something is wrong w/ your report. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 11:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi3bpF81amU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #568 |
On 5/30/2021 10:37 AM, Mike Easter wrote: > Ken Blake wrote: >> Mike Easter wrote: >>> Ken Blake wrote: >>>> I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my >>>> main accounts inbox. >>> >>> Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP >>> tab/ Forwarding: >> >> >> When I get there, I see a button for "Add a forwarding address," but >> there's no choice for "disable forwarding." >> > Are you sure you are getting the 'full picture'? Yes. Note that if I click on "Learn more," it says "Note: You can only set up forwarding on your computer, and not on the Gmail app." I've looked for it in Thunderbird, but couldn't find it there. > That is, there is a > slider; maybe your view of 'disable forwarding' is obscured. You should > be able to see the option disable forwarding even if you/one weren't > currently forwarding. It's not there. >> >> However note that what I said before about IMAP was wrong, The status >> IMAP is disabled. There's also the status POP is disabled. >> > I wonder how your Tb is getting its gmail if both pop & imap are disabled. > > Something is wrong w/ your report. It makes no sense to me either, but it says both: POP is disabled and IMAP is disabled. -- Ken
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 14:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihie69Fa231U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #572 |
Ken Blake wrote: > You can only set up forwarding on your computer, and not on the Gmail app." When I said gmail webmail, I was referring to the google mail at https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox ... not some phone app which I know little about. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 16:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihik3jFb1m5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #578 |
On 5/30/2021 2:25 PM, Mike Easter wrote: > Ken Blake wrote: >> You can only set up forwarding on your computer, and not on the Gmail app." > > When I said gmail webmail, I was referring to the google mail at > https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox Yes, that's what I understood you to mean. But fortunately, I solved the problem. Thanks again. > ... not some phone app which I know little about. > -- Ken
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 16:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihil0gFb9nuU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #579 |
Ken Blake wrote: > I solved the problem. You may have solved YOUR problem, but you didn't solve the puzzle (paradox) you have presented here. The puzzle is: if your gmail *WEBMAIL* settings is not configured for you to pop or imap into your *computer* Tb app, how can it possibly get there? (as you have reported) The apparent answer is: I don't believe you have computer browser visited gmail webmail if your VIEW of whatever you are calling gmail webmail says: > "Note: You can only set up forwarding on your computer, and not on the Gmail app." That looks to me like something a gmail app would say, not a computer browser visited gmail inbox settings. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 16:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihilo8FbdkpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #580 |
On 5/30/2021 4:21 PM, Mike Easter wrote: > Ken Blake wrote: >> I solved the problem. > > You may have solved YOUR problem, but you didn't solve the puzzle > (paradox) you have presented here. Yes, I know, but I'm only mildly interested in the answer to that. More important to me is that it's now set up the way I want it. > The puzzle is: if your gmail *WEBMAIL* settings is not configured for > you to pop or imap into your *computer* Tb app, how can it possibly get > there? (as you have reported) Beats me, but as I said, I don't particularly care. > The apparent answer is: I don't believe you have computer browser > visited gmail webmail if your VIEW of whatever you are calling gmail > webmail says: Believe what you will. >> "Note: You can only set up forwarding on your computer, and not on the Gmail app." > > That looks to me like something a gmail app would say, not a computer > browser visited gmail inbox settings. > > -- Ken
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| From | Nobody <jock@soccer.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 19:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <lkg8bgtu992lkbkg6soatb45df5m8o8s7t@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #580 |
On Sun, 30 May 2021 16:21:51 -0700, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote: >Ken Blake wrote: >> I solved the problem. > >You may have solved YOUR problem, but you didn't solve the puzzle >(paradox) you have presented here. > >The puzzle is: if your gmail *WEBMAIL* settings is not configured for >you to pop or imap into your *computer* Tb app, how can it possibly get >there? (as you have reported) > >The apparent answer is: I don't believe you have computer browser >visited gmail webmail if your VIEW of whatever you are calling gmail >webmail says: > >> "Note: You can only set up forwarding on your computer, and not on the Gmail app." > >That looks to me like something a gmail app would say, not a computer >browser visited gmail inbox settings. Agreed. The situation appears to hinge on the 'gmail.com' demand to deal with its requirements using a PC/Apple-launched browser, not a mobile app. That of course can be achieved on a mobile device, but not using the app. I'm trying to cover bases.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 12:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <16nuwdcixmipp$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #567 |
Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > Mike Easter wrote: > >> Ken Blake wrote: >> >>> I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my >>> main accounts inbox. >> >> Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP >> tab/ Forwarding: > > When I get there, I see a button for "Add a forwarding address," but > there's no choice for "disable forwarding." You need to add a forwarding address before the forwarding option becomes available whether to enable or disable it. Without adding a forwarding e-mail address, the forwarding option is meaningless. If you look at the forwarding settings, you'll also see the following note: "Tip: You can also forward only some of your mail by creating a filter!" Well, some can mean all depending on how you define your filter. Do you have any filters defined in your Gmail account that would effectively forward all new e-mails to your other account? Besides using pushing via forwarding to get incoming e-mails to your Gmail account to get delivered to your other account, you could configure your other account to poll (pull) e-mails from your Gmail account. Go into your other account's web settings to see if you have it polling your Gmail account for new e-mails at Gmail. Some e-mail providers will suspend or kill an overly idle account. They measure idleness based on logins. If you or a client has not logged into an account for a long time, like for several months, they figure you are no longer using that account, and instead of politely closing the account you abandoned it. They're looking for a login to check the account is still active. Using a forwarding option in an account is just sending e-mails to the other account, so that's not logging in. Using polling to pull new e-mails is logging in: the client, even a webmail client, that polls another account has to log into the other account, and why you have to provide the login credentials for the other account. I use Gmail's polling feature to keep alive a few other accounts that are kept in reserve; else, they would expire due to non-use. Pulling requires login. Pushing does not. You can push (forward) using Gmail to your other account. Or you can pull (poll) your Gmail by your other account. Push only requires an e-mail address for forwarding new e-mails to another account. Pull requires the login credentials of the other account; however, pull would require your Gmail account be enabled for POP or IMAP access, or both since the other account or your client needs to login via those protocols into Gmail to pull from there. >> disable forwarding > > However note that what I said before about IMAP was wrong, The status > IMAP is disabled. There's also the status POP is disabled. Then the only way to access your Gmail e-mails is to use their webmail interface. Thunderbird does not support the Gmail API for access to a Gmail account (https://developers.google.com/gmail/api)*. It only supports POP and IMAP. Since you disabled access using those protocols only supported by Thunderbird, it cannot access your Gmail account. * I haven't bothered to investigate if any extension would add Gmail API support to Thunbderbird. Are you saying your web settings for Gmail under gear -> See all settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP are the following? Forwarding: disabled and POP: disabled IMAP: disabled That means your Gmail account is not forwarding new e-mails via SMTP to send anywhere else. You say push is disabled. It also means no client can poll your Gmail account using POP or IMAP. You say pull is disabled. Thunderbird doesn't support Gmail API. Forwarding, push or pull, or the API are the only methods I know of for Gmail. Some mobile e-mail apps support the Gmail API (e.g., Gmail app, MS Outlook app, others). I suppose you could have a Gmail API capable client or e-mail service polling your Gmail account and then forward the new e-mails to your other account. That is, you could employ an intermediary to transfer the e-mails. Since fowarding, pop, and imap are disabled in your Gmail account, the only access method I know of is the Gmail API (a lighter weight access method than IMAP).
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 11:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi4vbF8aleU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #570 |
On 5/30/2021 10:53 AM, VanguardLH wrote: > Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > >> Mike Easter wrote: >> >>> Ken Blake wrote: >>> >>>> I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my >>>> main accounts inbox. >>> >>> Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP >>> tab/ Forwarding: >> >> When I get there, I see a button for "Add a forwarding address," but >> there's no choice for "disable forwarding." > > You need to add a forwarding address before the forwarding option > becomes available whether to enable or disable it. Without adding a > forwarding e-mail address, the forwarding option is meaningless. > > If you look at the forwarding settings, you'll also see the following > note: "Tip: You can also forward only some of your mail by creating a > filter!" Well, some can mean all depending on how you define your > filter. Do you have any filters defined in your Gmail account that > would effectively forward all new e-mails to your other account? I have no filters set on the GMail web site that I know of. I don't even know how to set them there. > > Besides using pushing via forwarding to get incoming e-mails to your > Gmail account to get delivered to your other account, you could > configure your other account to poll (pull) e-mails from your Gmail > account. Go into your other account's web settings to see if you have > it polling your Gmail account for new e-mails at Gmail. I can't find any such settings there. > > Some e-mail providers will suspend or kill an overly idle account. They > measure idleness based on logins. If you or a client has not logged > into an account for a long time, like for several months, they figure > you are no longer using that account, and instead of politely closing > the account you abandoned it. They're looking for a login to check the > account is still active. Using a forwarding option in an account is > just sending e-mails to the other account, so that's not logging in. > Using polling to pull new e-mails is logging in: the client, even a > webmail client, that polls another account has to log into the other > account, and why you have to provide the login credentials for the other > account. I use Gmail's polling feature to keep alive a few other > accounts that are kept in reserve; else, they would expire due to > non-use. Pulling requires login. Pushing does not. > > You can push (forward) using Gmail to your other account. Or you can > pull (poll) your Gmail by your other account. Push only requires an > e-mail address for forwarding new e-mails to another account. Pull > requires the login credentials of the other account; however, pull would > require your Gmail account be enabled for POP or IMAP access, or both > since the other account or your client needs to login via those > protocols into Gmail to pull from there. > >>> disable forwarding >> >> However note that what I said before about IMAP was wrong, The status >> IMAP is disabled. There's also the status POP is disabled. > > Then the only way to access your Gmail e-mails is to use their webmail > interface. Which I almost never do. > Thunderbird does not support the Gmail API for access to a > Gmail account (https://developers.google.com/gmail/api)*. It only > supports POP and IMAP. Since you disabled access using those protocols > only supported by Thunderbird, it cannot access your Gmail account. What you say makes perfect sense, but I'm reporting what's happening. > * I haven't bothered to investigate if any extension would add Gmail API > support to Thunbderbird. > > Are you saying your web settings for Gmail under gear -> See all > settings -> Forwarding and POP/IMAP are the following? > > Forwarding: disabled It doesn't say "disabled." It just gives me the choice to add a forwarding address > and > POP: disabled Yes. > IMAP: disabled Yes. > That means your Gmail account is not forwarding new e-mails via SMTP to > send anywhere else. You say push is disabled. It also means no client > can poll your Gmail account using POP or IMAP. You say pull is > disabled. Thunderbird doesn't support Gmail API. Forwarding, push or > pull, or the API are the only methods I know of for Gmail. Nevertheless, Thunderbird is getting the gmail messages to me in both the gmail account and my main e-mail account. > > Some mobile e-mail apps support the Gmail API (e.g., Gmail app, MS > Outlook app, others). I suppose you could have a Gmail API capable > client or e-mail service polling your Gmail account and then forward the > new e-mails to your other account. That is, you could employ an > intermediary to transfer the e-mails. Since fowarding, pop, and imap > are disabled in your Gmail account, the only access method I know of is > the Gmail API (a lighter weight access method than IMAP). I also have both e-mail accounts set up with Outlook (Office 365) on my Android phone, but I can't find what you suggest there. -- Ken
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 11:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi57jF8aleU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #573 |
On 5/30/2021 11:48 AM, Ken Blake wrote: > On 5/30/2021 10:53 AM, VanguardLH wrote: >> Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: >> >>> Mike Easter wrote: >>> >>>> Ken Blake wrote: >>>> >>>>> I set it so that a copy of all received gmail message also went to my >>>>> main accounts inbox. >>>> >>>> Gmail webmail/ Settings gear icon/ All settings/ Forwarding & IMAP/POP >>>> tab/ Forwarding: >>> >>> When I get there, I see a button for "Add a forwarding address," but >>> there's no choice for "disable forwarding." >> >> You need to add a forwarding address before the forwarding option >> becomes available whether to enable or disable it. Without adding a >> forwarding e-mail address, the forwarding option is meaningless. >> >> If you look at the forwarding settings, you'll also see the following >> note: "Tip: You can also forward only some of your mail by creating a >> filter!" Well, some can mean all depending on how you define your >> filter. Do you have any filters defined in your Gmail account that >> would effectively forward all new e-mails to your other account? > > > I have no filters set on the GMail web site that I know of. I don't even > know how to set them there. I think I just found it! There was a filter set for gmail in Thunderbird. I just disabled it, and I'll see what happens. -- Ken
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 11:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi5e6F8aleU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #575 |
On 5/30/2021 11:52 AM, Ken Blake wrote: > I think I just found it! There was a filter set for gmail in > Thunderbird. I just disabled it, and I'll see what happens. That was it. I sent myself a message from the main account to gmail. It showed up in gmail, but not the main account. Thanks to all of you who tried to help, especially Vanguard who pointed me almost in the right direction. -- Ken
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2021-05-31 00:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mju5s63uyyis$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #573 |
Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > Nevertheless, Thunderbird is getting the gmail messages to me in both > the gmail account and my main e-mail account. You aren't confusing the linked inbox folder (or All Inbox or Unified Inbox) to perceive the e-mails there as listed in every account? That's just a global folder linking the inboxes from multiple accounts as a convenience for viewing all e-mails in all accounts. The Unified Inbox view is a really old feature back to 2014, or earlier. View menu -> Folders -> Unified. > I also have both e-mail accounts set up with Outlook (Office 365) on my > Android phone, but I can't find what you suggest there. The MS Outlook app on Android supports the Gmail API. However, it would show new e-mails in the Gmail account you defined in the Outlook app. It would not mix or copy them to the other account you defined in the Outlook app -- unless you defined some rules to have the app send the new e-mails received in the Gmail account to the other account. Alas, I see no rules or settings in the MS Outlook app for Android that would transfer e-mails from one account to another. Android email apps tend to be extremely basic. MS probably assumes if you want to use rules that you would define server-side rules in your MS account, not in a local app. I didn't see anything that blared forwarding or rules in the Gmail app (bundled with Android), but I don't use that e-mail app. I suspect they also assume you do forwarding or rules defined in your Gmail account, not in a local app. Oh, and both those Android apps also support a unified inbox view. ... UPDATE: I see in your later reply that you found the problem was with a client-side filter you defined in Thunderbird. I had focused on server-side filters since those will exercise when new e-mails arrive, not when you happen to get around to loading your local e-mail client (Thunderbird) to then let it run its own filters. If a filter (rule) can be defined on the server (which means the filter conditions and actions are robust enough to warrant using server-side rules), I prefer to use server-side filters. Less work for the local client. For push (forwarding) or using filters to resend new e-mails to another account, makes more sense to have the server do that instead of the client. Glad you figured out it was Tbird doing the e-mail transfer between accounts via filters in Tbird.
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-31 07:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihkbosFlaf3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #583 |
On 5/30/2021 10:28 PM, VanguardLH wrote: > Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote: > >> Nevertheless, Thunderbird is getting the gmail messages to me in both >> the gmail account and my main e-mail account. > > You aren't confusing the linked inbox folder (or All Inbox or Unified > Inbox) to perceive the e-mails there as listed in every account? That's > just a global folder linking the inboxes from multiple accounts as a > convenience for viewing all e-mails in all accounts. No, I wasn't. I didn't even know about that choice, but I just turned it on to see if I like it. > The Unified Inbox view is a really old feature back to 2014, or earlier. > View menu -> Folders -> Unified. > >> I also have both e-mail accounts set up with Outlook (Office 365) on my >> Android phone, but I can't find what you suggest there. > > The MS Outlook app on Android supports the Gmail API. However, it would > show new e-mails in the Gmail account you defined in the Outlook app. > It would not mix or copy them to the other account you defined in the > Outlook app -- unless you defined some rules to have the app send the > new e-mails received in the Gmail account to the other account. Alas, I > see no rules or settings in the MS Outlook app for Android that would > transfer e-mails from one account to another. Android email apps tend > to be extremely basic. MS probably assumes if you want to use rules > that you would define server-side rules in your MS account, not in a > local app. > > I didn't see anything that blared forwarding or rules in the Gmail app > (bundled with Android), but I don't use that e-mail app. I suspect they > also assume you do forwarding or rules defined in your Gmail account, > not in a local app. > > Oh, and both those Android apps also support a unified inbox view. > > ... > > UPDATE: > > I see in your later reply that you found the problem was with a > client-side filter you defined in Thunderbird. I had focused on > server-side filters since those will exercise when new e-mails arrive, > not when you happen to get around to loading your local e-mail client > (Thunderbird) to then let it run its own filters. If a filter (rule) > can be defined on the server (which means the filter conditions and > actions are robust enough to warrant using server-side rules), I prefer > to use server-side filters. Less work for the local client. For push > (forwarding) or using filters to resend new e-mails to another account, > makes more sense to have the server do that instead of the client. > > Glad you figured out it was Tbird doing the e-mail transfer between > accounts via filters in Tbird. > -- Ken
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 10:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi1d9F7kjfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #565 |
Ken Blake wrote: > When I first set up Thunderbird for e-mail, I set it so that a copy of > all received gmail message also went to my main accounts inbox. Does this sentence mean (by way of implication) that you get your gmail in Tb; or do you get your gmail in webmail, but you get your main accounts mail in Tb? I assumed that since you were 'setting up Tb' that the sentence meant that you were getting your gmail in Tb (and also getting your gmail in your main accounts). -- Mike Easter
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi52sF8aleU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #569 |
On 5/30/2021 10:47 AM, Mike Easter wrote: > Ken Blake wrote: >> When I first set up Thunderbird for e-mail, I set it so that a copy of >> all received gmail message also went to my main accounts inbox. > > Does this sentence mean (by way of implication) that you get your gmail > in Tb; Yes. > or do you get your gmail in webmail, No. > But you get your main > accounts mail in Tb? Yes. > I assumed that since you were 'setting up Tb' that the sentence meant > that you were getting your gmail in Tb (and also getting your gmail in > your main accounts). Yes. -- Ken
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 10:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi20lF7o3eU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #565 |
Ken Blake wrote: > I have two e-mail accounts set up in Thunderbird. One is my main e-mail > account, in a private domain, and the other is a gmail account. Both are > IMAP. You are receiving your gmail in Tb, therefore you MUST have enabled pop or imap in gmail. It might not be imap, but if it isn't, it is surely pop. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-05-30 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ihi54eF8aleU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #571 |
On 5/30/2021 10:57 AM, Mike Easter wrote: > Ken Blake wrote: >> I have two e-mail accounts set up in Thunderbird. One is my main e-mail >> account, in a private domain, and the other is a gmail account. Both are >> IMAP. > > You are receiving your gmail in Tb, therefore you MUST have enabled pop > or imap in gmail. It might not be imap, but if it isn't, it is surely pop. That makes perfect sense, but I'm reporting what it says. -- Ken
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