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  Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 08:40 +0100
    Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-07-30 10:59 +0200
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-30 10:25 +0100
        Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 11:31 +0100
        Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 11:35 +0100
          Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 13:43 +0100
          Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-30 19:51 +0100
            Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:33 +0100
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 11:19 +0100
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-07-30 10:47 -0700
        Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not hsdejong <newsgroup@invalid.hsdejong.nl> - 2026-07-30 23:45 +0200
        Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-08-01 11:12 -0700
    Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-07-30 12:01 +0200
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 11:37 +0100
    Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-07-30 16:30 +0200
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 16:25 +0100
        Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-07-30 20:26 +0200
          Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-30 22:32 +0100
    Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-30 09:07 -0700
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> - 2026-07-30 18:32 +0200
    Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2026-07-31 20:40 -0400
      Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-08-01 11:43 +0200
        Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2026-08-01 09:33 -0400
          Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhaps) not Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-08-02 00:33 +0200
            Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhaps) not Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-08-01 19:10 -0700

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#21591 — Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not

The subject has been deliberately misspelt!

One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in 
the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body 
of the message.

It also does a good job of picking up "attach" or "attachment" (but, 
oddly enough, not "attachments"!) in the body, or something which might 
be an attachment, such as "myfile.pdf". Here's the odd thing - if you 
happen to put the word "attachment" or "myfile.pdf",in the subject line, 
the warning "Found an attachment keyword" will pop up. So if it's 
obviously scanning the subject field for a word relating to an 
attachment, why can't it spell check the subject field?

-- 
Jeff

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#21592

I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I 
type.


On 30-7-2026 9:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
> The subject has been deliberately misspelt!
> 
> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in 
> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body 
> of the message.
<cut>


-- 
With kind regards,
Henk

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#21593 — Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field

On 2026/7/30 9:59:20, hsdejong wrote:
> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I 
> type.
> 
I'm using Thunderbird 140.13.0est under windows 10-64*, and the perhpas,
as well as the one of my common mis-spellings I've added (but not the
correctly-spelt word), has a wiggly red underline, as it does in the
body of this text, as fo hsdejong and Betterbird. (Though, oddly, not
"fo" which I just mistyped for "do". That must be a word!)

I don't know whether it's Windows or Thunderbird that's doing that checking.
> 
> On 30-7-2026 9:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> The subject has been deliberately misspelt!

And punctuated - the close bracket should have been after "not"! :-)
>>
>> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in 
>> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body 
>> of the message.
> <cut>
> 
> 
As you say, it picks up anything in the body that might indicate
attachments (but not that word if it has the s on it!). Including the
letter-pair cv, which usually tells me I've caught the V key when typing
a C or vice versa.

* I see it _is_ now offering me the upgrade to 153.0.1esr.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni, Vidi, Video (I came, I saw, I'll watch it again later)
- Mik from S+AS Limited (mik@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998

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#21598 — Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field

J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> the perhpas, as well as the one of my common mis-spellings I've added
> (but not the correctly-spelt word), has a wiggly red underline, as it
> does in the body of this text, as fo hsdejong and Betterbird.
> (Though, oddly, not "fo" which I just mistyped for "do". That must be
> a word!)

I blame the scrabble-players ...

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#21599 — Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field

On 30/07/2026 10:25, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/30 9:59:20, hsdejong wrote:
>> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I
>> type.

That's the reason! I just checked the box in "Settings" to do that and 
it now underlines the incorrectly spelt word in the subject field. But 
then it makes no sense that it doesn't spell check the subject field 
before sending if that box isn't checked. I'll see if that's been 
reported as a bug, and if not I will do it.
> I'm using Thunderbird 140.13.0est under windows 10-64*, and the perhpas,
> as well as the one of my common mis-spellings I've added (but not the
> correctly-spelt word), has a wiggly red underline, as it does in the
> body of this text, as fo hsdejong and Betterbird. (Though, oddly, not
> "fo" which I just mistyped for "do". That must be a word!)
> 
> I don't know whether it's Windows or Thunderbird that's doing that checking.

I'm on 143.0esr (est...?!).

>> On 30-7-2026 9:40, Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> The subject has been deliberately misspelt!
> 
> And punctuated - the close bracket should have been after "not"! :-)

No grammar checker in TB! :-)

Mind you, in many cases I get the second bracket wrong because I 
absolutely *hate* TB (and other text-based apps) automatically adding 
the close bracket immediately after I've keyed the open bracket. So when 
I check I see "()this is what has appeared)" rather than "(this is what 
has appeared)", and by the time I've removed the first ) I've probably 
put another bracket in the wrong place...

>>>
>>> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in
>>> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body
>>> of the message.
>> <cut>
>>
>>
> As you say, it picks up anything in the body that might indicate
> attachments (but not that word if it has the s on it!). Including the
> letter-pair cv, which usually tells me I've caught the V key when typing
> a C or vice versa.

I might report the "s" issue as a bug another time.

> * I see it _is_ now offering me the upgrade to 153.0.1esr.

-- 
Jeff

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#21601 — Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field

On 30/07/2026 11:35, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 30/07/2026 10:25, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/7/30 9:59:20, hsdejong wrote:
>>> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I
>>> type.
> 
> That's the reason! I just checked the box in "Settings" to do that and
> it now underlines the incorrectly spelt word in the subject field. But
> then it makes no sense that it doesn't spell check the subject field
> before sending if that box isn't checked. I'll see if that's been
> reported as a bug, and if not I will do it.

It's bug 939590 (<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939590>) 
reported for SeaMonkey. That was 12 years ago! It's also related to bug 
368915 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=368915> reported 19 
years ago and closed 10 years ago.

-- 
Jeff

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#21619 — Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field

On 2026/7/30 11:35:43, Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 30/07/2026 10:25, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/7/30 9:59:20, hsdejong wrote:
>>> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I
>>> type.
> 
> That's the reason! I just checked the box in "Settings" to do that and 
> it now underlines the incorrectly spelt word in the subject field. But 
> then it makes no sense that it doesn't spell check the subject field 
> before sending if that box isn't checked. I'll see if that's been 

If I've followed your logic correctly, I can't see that it's a bug that
it doesn't spell check the subject field before sending, if you've
turned off subject field checking?!? But I've probably misunderstood.
[]
>> And punctuated - the close bracket should have been after "not"! :-)
> 
> No grammar checker in TB! :-)
> 
> Mind you, in many cases I get the second bracket wrong because I 
> absolutely *hate* TB (and other text-based apps) automatically adding 
> the close bracket immediately after I've keyed the open bracket. So when 
> I check I see "()this is what has appeared)" rather than "(this is what 
> has appeared)", and by the time I've removed the first ) I've probably 
> put another bracket in the wrong place...

I don't think I've ever seen a ) character be supplied, by TB or any
other application, when I type a ( character; I just tried typing
"(ever" earlier in this sentence, and no ) popped up anywhere. Could be
quite a _useful_ option - do you have some background app. you've
forgotten about? If so, please share :-)
[]
(Now on "153.0.1esr (64-bit)". I haven't noticed any difference other
than the system integration popup, though it may be the case that some
things that have irritated me in the past are now not happening. [When I
started this paragraph with a (, no ) popped up anywhere that I could
see - I'm about to type the needed one manually.])
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.

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#21621 — Re: Checking the subject line spelling (or perhpas) not;; feild field

On 30/07/2026 19:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/7/30 11:35:43, Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 30/07/2026 10:25, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/7/30 9:59:20, hsdejong wrote:
>>>> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I
>>>> type.
>>
>> That's the reason! I just checked the box in "Settings" to do that and
>> it now underlines the incorrectly spelt word in the subject field. But
>> then it makes no sense that it doesn't spell check the subject field
>> before sending if that box isn't checked. I'll see if that's been
> 
> If I've followed your logic correctly, I can't see that it's a bug that
> it doesn't spell check the subject field before sending, if you've
> turned off subject field checking?!? But I've probably misunderstood.

As far as I understand there is no separate /subject/ /field/ spell 
checking that can be turned on and off manually. Either the whole 
document, including the subject field, is spell checked as you type, or 
only the body text is spell checked when you click on "send" (when spell 
checking as you type is turned off).

(See my reply to myself to see bugs previously notified)

> []
>>> And punctuated - the close bracket should have been after "not"! :-)
>>
>> No grammar checker in TB! :-)
>>
>> Mind you, in many cases I get the second bracket wrong because I
>> absolutely *hate* TB (and other text-based apps) automatically adding
>> the close bracket immediately after I've keyed the open bracket. So when
>> I check I see "()this is what has appeared)" rather than "(this is what
>> has appeared)", and by the time I've removed the first ) I've probably
>> put another bracket in the wrong place...
> 
> I don't think I've ever seen a ) character be supplied, by TB or any
> other application, when I type a ( character; I just tried typing
> "(ever" earlier in this sentence, and no ) popped up anywhere. Could be
> quite a _useful_ option - do you have some background app. you've
> forgotten about? If so, please share :-)

Not as far as I know. Also, it only happens the first time I open 
brackets in an email or post. Of course, it's not doing it now...

> (Now on "153.0.1esr (64-bit)". I haven't noticed any difference other
> than the system integration popup, though it may be the case that some
> things that have irritated me in the past are now not happening. [When I
> started this paragraph with a (, no ) popped up anywhere that I could
> see - I'm about to type the needed one manually.])
-- 
Jeff

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#21596

On 30/07/2026 09:59, hsdejong wrote:
> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I
> type.

I'm using TB 153.0esr.

-- 
Jeff

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#21614

On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:59:20 +0200, hsdejong wrote:
> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I 
> type.

What's your secret? 

I'm using Betterbird 140.10.1esr-bb22, and it doesn't spell-check the 
subject line for me. Both mail.SpellCheckBeforeSend and 
mail.spellcheck.inline are set to true.

I typed "Tihs is a garve mitseak" in the subject line, and not only 
did it not complain as I typed, but when I clicked the Spelling 
button, it said "No misspelled words".

I'd love to know how to make mine behave like yours, because I do 
tend to forget to check spelling of the subject line.

-- 
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by 
those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw

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#21622

On 30-7-2026 19:47, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:59:20 +0200, hsdejong wrote:
>> I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I
>> type.
> 
> What's your secret?
<cut>

I can't remember changing anything related to the spell check...


-- 
With kind regards,
Henk

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#21642

On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:47:59 -0700, Stan Brown wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:59:20 +0200, hsdejong wrote:
> > I'm using Betterbird (version 140), and it spell-checks the subject as I 
> > type.
> 
> What's your secret? 
> 
> I'm using Betterbird 140.10.1esr-bb22, and it doesn't spell-check the 
> subject line for me. Both mail.SpellCheckBeforeSend and 
> mail.spellcheck.inline are set to true.
> 
> I typed "Tihs is a garve mitseak" in the subject line, and not only 
> did it not complain as I typed, but when I clicked the Spelling 
> button, it said "No misspelled words".
> 
> I'd love to know how to make mine behave like yours, because I do 
> tend to forget to check spelling of the subject line.

Well, this is weird. I haven't changed any Betterbird settings (apart 
from choice of font in the Composition section) or installed a new 
version since writing the above, but now the subject line is spell-
checked as I type. (The subject line is not spell-checked when I 
click the Spelling button or when I hit Ctrl-Enter to send the 
message, though the body is.)

-- 
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by 
those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw

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#21595

Am 30.07.26 um 09:40 schrieb Jeff Layman:
> 
> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in 
> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body 
> of the message.

It does for me in TB 152.

-- 
Gruß
Marco

Please send unsolicited mail to dustbin12@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de

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#21600

On 30/07/2026 11:01, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 30.07.26 um 09:40 schrieb Jeff Layman:
>>
>> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in
>> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body
>> of the message.
> 
> It does for me in TB 152.

See my reply to J.P. Gilliver.

-- 
Jeff

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#21602

Jeff Layman wrote:
[..snip..]
> It also does a good job of picking up "attach" or "attachment" (but, 
> oddly enough, not "attachments"!) in the body, or something which might 
> be an attachment, such as "myfile.pdf".

→ Settings → Composition → Attachments → Keywords

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#21603

On 30/07/2026 15:30, Frank Miller wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
> [..snip..]
>> It also does a good job of picking up "attach" or "attachment" (but,
>> oddly enough, not "attachments"!) in the body, or something which might
>> be an attachment, such as "myfile.pdf".
> 
> → Settings → Composition → Attachments → Keywords

Thanks! I've added attachments, .odt, .ods.

-- 
Jeff

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#21617

Jeff Layman wrote:
> On 30/07/2026 15:30, Frank Miller wrote:
>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>> [..snip..]
>>> It also does a good job of picking up "attach" or "attachment" (but,
>>> oddly enough, not "attachments"!) in the body, or something which might
>>> be an attachment, such as "myfile.pdf".
>> 
>> → Settings → Composition → Attachments → Keywords
> 
> Thanks! I've added attachments, .odt, .ods.

That option was hard to figure out, eh?

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#21620

On 30/07/2026 19:26, Frank Miller wrote:
> Jeff Layman wrote:
>> On 30/07/2026 15:30, Frank Miller wrote:
>>> Jeff Layman wrote:
>>> [..snip..]
>>>> It also does a good job of picking up "attach" or "attachment" (but,
>>>> oddly enough, not "attachments"!) in the body, or something which might
>>>> be an attachment, such as "myfile.pdf".
>>>
>>> → Settings → Composition → Attachments → Keywords
>>
>> Thanks! I've added attachments, .odt, .ods.
> 
> That option was hard to figure out, eh?

I never noticed that option was there. I thought it was just something 
the devs had "hardwired" into TB to help, and it has been very helpful 
in the past when I've been in a hurry and forgotten to attach a file 
before sending. There's plenty of room in that yellow line at the bottom 
of the page to add a "modify attachment list" button.

-- 
Jeff

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#21606

On 2026-07-30 12:40 a.m., Jeff Layman wrote:
> The subject has been deliberately misspelt!
> 
> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in
> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body
> of the message.
Preparing this as a follow-up for me, picks up 'perhpas' and 'misspelt' 
as suspicious.

That's with 'Enable spellcheck as you type' checked in composition settings.

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#21609

Op 30-07-2026 om 18:07 schreef Nobody:
> On 2026-07-30 12:40 a.m., Jeff Layman wrote:
>> The subject has been deliberately misspelt!
>>
>> One of the minor annoyances with TB is that it doesn't check spelling in
>> the subject field, although it does a good job with the text in the body
>> of the message.
> Preparing this as a follow-up for me, picks up 'perhpas' and 'misspelt'
> as suspicious.
> 
> That's with 'Enable spellcheck as you type' checked in composition
> settings.

Yes, but only as you type, not when clicking the spelling button, and
not when sending a message.

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