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Re: ThunderMail is coming soon

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On 22/04/2025 10:43 pm, VanguardLH wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> You know that Mozilla is packing a parachute right now.
>>
>> The last article I read two hours ago, is looking at
>> Google having to ditch Chrome as a part of the DOJ
>> remedy, and the Mozilla contract got an honorable mention as
>> part of the solution as well.
>>
>> If Mozilla is going into the poor house, this is why
>> they're working on their own self-sustaining business
>> opportunities (no matter what their corporate structure
>> is, and how they would morph in view of the potential outcome).
>> They will have to "shed something" and "belt tighten" and
>> change their corporate structure and charter.
>>
>> It used to be, they practiced their business opportunities
>> as a bit of a lark, but now it's crunch time. A donation model
>> would never work.
> 
> Yep, I've noted before that Google is getting nailed for bribing web
> browser authors, and other anti-trust marketing practices with their
> grip on online advertising.  Mozilla could lose 97% of their revenue
> that comes from Google.  That's why all those services from Mozilla are
> unlikely to [remain to] be free.  They won't be able to afford any
> further altruism.  The tit goes dry, and entitled users whine louder.
> 
> If Google has to decouple from Chromium, can the rest of the Chromium
> dev team keep producing a competitive, up to date, and secure web
> browser into the future?  Chromium is developed and maintained by
> Google.  With Google gone, who is left to work on Chromium are a group
> of devs unknown and unrecognized by the vast majority of users. Chromium
> doesn't have automatic updates, API keys for Google services (e.g.,
> browser sync), Widevine DRM, licensed codecs for H.264 and AAC, crash
> reporting, etc.  Chrome is oriented to a consumer market.  Chromium is
> oriented to a much smaller more expert/nerd community.  Ask your friends
> to see how many use Chromium.  Chromium never shows up in browser market
> share statistics.
> 
> If Google has to walk away from Chromium, who is left in its dev team?
> Chromium has been a Google project from its inception.  Google does the
> vast bulk of development on Chromium.  The Chromium projects (Chromium
> and ChromeOS) are not independent of Google.  Some of the other
> contributors have been Microsoft, Intel, Samsung, and variant authors,
> like Opera, Vivaldi, and Brave.  Of those, and after Google, Microsoft
> is the next biggest powerhouse, so, gee, might we end up with Microsoft
> Chrome?  Well, there's already Edge-C (Edge that became a Chromium
> variant after Microsoft dropped EdgeHTML).
> 
> Without Google to pay Mozilla, Mozilla won't have the financial strength
> anymore to continue the current level of development.  Firefox might get
> more market share, but Mozilla becomes much weaker.  If Google decouples
> from Chrome, could be Chromium loses their major developer along with
> all its services, so Chromium also becomes much weaker.  No sponsors, no
> money.  No money, no development.  Programmers need to eat, too.
> 
Hmm!! Is anyone else sensing "Deja Vu"?? The above reminds me of what 
apparently happened when, was it, Netscape sliced off Mozilla to do its 
own development .... which led to Firefox/Thunderbird and SeaMonkey Suite??
-- 
Daniel70

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  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 21:42 +0200
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      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-21 08:52 +0100
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-21 17:36 -0500
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            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-22 07:43 -0500
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 23:42 +1000
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2025-04-22 11:12 -0400
  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-04-20 21:12 +0100
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-20 15:49 -0500
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-04-21 08:59 +0100
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            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-21 11:41 -0400
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-21 18:18 -0500
              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2025-04-22 01:42 +0200
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-04-21 18:53 +0200
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-22 20:07 +1000
          Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-22 07:49 -0500
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 13:58 +0000
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                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-03 14:39 -0400
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                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 13:31 +0000
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              Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 00:27 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 11:31 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 06:14 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-23 12:36 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 06:50 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 15:54 +0000
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 05:00 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-24 12:19 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 14:33 +0200
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-25 12:54 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 18:03 +0200
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Philip Herlihy <nothing@invalid.com> - 2025-04-29 16:48 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-24 14:55 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-24 15:26 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 21:05 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 21:25 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-25 06:53 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 01:53 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-25 08:11 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 07:06 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:47 +0200
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 08:20 -0400
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 07:52 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 12:00 -0400
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Arthur Conan Doyle <dont@bother.com> - 2025-04-25 07:33 -0500
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-04-24 22:47 +0200
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-04-24 22:09 +0100
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 15:27 +0000
                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 18:37 +0200
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                Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-24 21:48 +0200
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 09:45 +0200
            Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-04-23 09:45 +0200
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        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-22 06:31 -0500
  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-20 15:47 -0500
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    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-22 21:14 -0500
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-23 00:54 -0500
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      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-24 05:07 -0500
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Robert <monstoor@spammedia.com> - 2025-04-25 00:26 +0100
        Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-25 05:44 -0700
  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-16 06:26 -0500
    Re: ThunderMail is coming soon Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2025-05-28 18:26 -0400
      Re: ThunderMail is coming soon VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-28 18:58 -0500
  Re: ThunderMail is coming soon "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-05-21 02:18 +0800
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