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  WIN1  1One-line taskbar;   Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-02 19:07 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:58 -0500
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:31 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-02 20:02 -0500
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 10:35 +0000
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-03 08:37 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 11:21 +0000
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:29 -0500
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-04 10:11 -0500
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-04 15:20 +0000
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-04 09:28 -0500
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-04 09:57 -0500
    Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-03 10:30 +0100
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 11:57 +0100
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-02-03 12:25 +0100
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:03 +0000
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 14:55 +0100
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:56 +0000
              Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Shinji Ikari <shinji@gmx.net> - 2025-02-03 17:14 +0100
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-03 13:19 +0000
      Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-05 06:33 -0500
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-05 10:12 -0500
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-10 12:02 -0500
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-10 13:23 -0500
              Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 14:38 -0700
        Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-06 13:19 +0000
          Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-10 11:35 -0500
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-10 19:16 +0000
              Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-10 15:13 -0700
                Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-11 11:02 +0000
            Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-10 17:14 -0500

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#16827 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:

>
>> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
>> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
>> on the one you wanted.  
>
>You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
>then this doesn't help.

Why does MS mess things up that work well?

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#16832 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

On 2/5/2025 6:33 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
> Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
> 
>>
>>> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
>>> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
>>> on the one you wanted.
>>
>> You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
>> then this doesn't help.
> 
> Why does MS mess things up that work well?
> 

    Sometimes designs are well intentioned but just fail to
work well. For many people, managing the "badges" for
open windows on the taskbar is not something they do,
so ganging them up together, while impractical, looks less
cluttered. The worse thing to my mind is that ganging up,
without QuickLaunch, makes it hard to open a new instance.
I find that I have to have a shortcut on the Desktop for
things like FF because the FF shortcut on the taskbar
turns into a badge under the "pinning" model.

   So what's the point? It looks nice to people who don't
know how to use a computer anyway. MS have always been
very competent about making software. But there's also
greed, paranoia, and the need to support numerous usage
scenarios.

   Many changes have been based on a dual motive of keeping
up with fashion while looking for a new revenue stream. Those
incude Active Desktop, Passort, Hailstorm, SPOT watches,
Copilot, MSO 365, etc.

   Many other changes seem to be based more on paranoia
combined with cost saving strategies. They thwart customers
trying to use the product as they see fit. Any functionality
that hasn't been published as an official API is deliberately
broken on a regular basis. A good example of that is folder
view options. The whole mess has been needlessly broken
since Win98. In Win98, preferred folder window view didn't
take because Explorer didn't save the settings to the Registry
correctly. MS never fixed it!
    In the following years and versions, every version of Windows
changes the arrangement of the notorious "Bags" Registry
keys that control the whole thing. So any tweaks to fix it in
one version must be rewritten for the next. Each change has
been frivolous but breaking.

  On Win10 I had to come up with obscure tweaks just to get
32px icons. Small is now 16 or so and medium is 48. No more
32! My tweak works, but only so long as I don't change the view
in a given folder. So every once in awhile I have to run a script
to delete all folder view memory from the Registry and reset
the 32px view.

   The ribbon menu? I expect that was well intentioned and
based on some kind of research and focus groups. The fact
that it doesn't work well (and what's with the random File
menu to nowhere??) is simply misjudgement. Probably they
wanted to show that they're improving things, so they figured
it was time to change it up. The Share menu reminds me of
those silly Internet and Email buttons on "Internet keyboards".
It's about fashion, not functionality. None of it even works
unless you configure the options, which no one is going to do.
Sort of like the jet engine shaped tail lights on cars in the 50s.
They didn't turn cars into jets, but, hey, cool or what? :)

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#16949 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Wed, 5 Feb 2025 10:12:47 -0500, Newyana2
<newyana@invalid.nospam> wrote:

>On 2/5/2025 6:33 AM, micky wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
>> Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
>>>> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
>>>> on the one you wanted.
>>>
>>> You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
>>> then this doesn't help.
>> 
>> Why does MS mess things up that work well?
>> 
>
>    Sometimes designs are well intentioned but just fail to
>work well. For many people, managing the "badges" for
>open windows on the taskbar is not something they do,
>so ganging them up together, while impractical, looks less
>cluttered. The worse thing to my mind is that ganging up,
>without QuickLaunch, makes it hard to open a new instance.
>I find that I have to have a shortcut on the Desktop for
>things like FF because the FF shortcut on the taskbar
>turns into a badge under the "pinning" model.
>
>   So what's the point? It looks nice to people who don't
>know how to use a computer anyway. MS have always been
>very competent about making software. But there's also
>greed, paranoia, and the need to support numerous usage
>scenarios.
>
>   Many changes have been based on a dual motive of keeping
>up with fashion while looking for a new revenue stream. Those
>incude Active Desktop, Passort, Hailstorm, SPOT watches,
>Copilot, MSO 365, etc.
>
>   Many other changes seem to be based more on paranoia
>combined with cost saving strategies. They thwart customers
>trying to use the product as they see fit. Any functionality
>that hasn't been published as an official API is deliberately
>broken on a regular basis. A good example of that is folder
>view options. The whole mess has been needlessly broken
>since Win98. In Win98, preferred folder window view didn't
>take because Explorer didn't save the settings to the Registry
>correctly. MS never fixed it!
>    In the following years and versions, every version of Windows
>changes the arrangement of the notorious "Bags" Registry
>keys that control the whole thing. So any tweaks to fix it in
>one version must be rewritten for the next. Each change has
>been frivolous but breaking.
>
>  On Win10 I had to come up with obscure tweaks just to get
>32px icons. Small is now 16 or so and medium is 48. No more
>32! My tweak works, but only so long as I don't change the view
>in a given folder. So every once in awhile I have to run a script
>to delete all folder view memory from the Registry and reset
>the 32px view.
>
>   The ribbon menu? I expect that was well intentioned and
>based on some kind of research and focus groups. The fact
>that it doesn't work well (and what's with the random File
>menu to nowhere??) is simply misjudgement. Probably they
>wanted to show that they're improving things, so they figured
>it was time to change it up. The Share menu reminds me of
>those silly Internet and Email buttons on "Internet keyboards".
>It's about fashion, not functionality. None of it even works
>unless you configure the options, which no one is going to do.
>Sort of like the jet engine shaped tail lights on cars in the 50s.
>They didn't turn cars into jets, but, hey, cool or what? :)

Hey, my '50 Olds had an air intake under the headlights just like the
WWII Lockheed P-38 -- but I couldn't find any close-up pictures. )

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#16954 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

On 2/10/2025 12:02 PM, micky wrote:

>>
>>    The ribbon menu? I expect that was well intentioned and
>> based on some kind of research and focus groups. The fact
>> that it doesn't work well (and what's with the random File
>> menu to nowhere??) is simply misjudgement. Probably they
>> wanted to show that they're improving things, so they figured
>> it was time to change it up. The Share menu reminds me of
>> those silly Internet and Email buttons on "Internet keyboards".
>> It's about fashion, not functionality. None of it even works
>> unless you configure the options, which no one is going to do.
>> Sort of like the jet engine shaped tail lights on cars in the 50s.
>> They didn't turn cars into jets, but, hey, cool or what? :)
> 
> Hey, my '50 Olds had an air intake under the headlights just like the
> WWII Lockheed P-38 -- but I couldn't find any close-up pictures. )
> 

   My father was a test pilot. The P38 was his favorite of 32  planes,
though I never knew why. He wasn't much of a talker. I saw
a program on TV recently with someone turning an old Cadillac,
  I think, into a love seat. They mentioned that its "rocket engine"
fins were the biggest ever made. That was what made me think of
that example. It recalled to me those multiple rocket tail lights that
used to be so popular.

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#16960 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

Newyana2 wrote on 2/10/25 11:23 AM:
> 
>    My father was a test pilot. The P38 was his favorite of 32  planes,
> though I never knew why. He wasn't much of a talker. 

Easy to fly, low maintenance, merciful, 'mucho' visibility, forgiving and 
lenient(mishandle, fly inexpertly) without losing control.

i.e. a plane built with the pilot in mind.

-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#16847 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
> Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
> 
> >
> >> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
> >> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
> >> on the one you wanted.  
> >
> >You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
> >then this doesn't help.
> 
> Why does MS mess things up that work well?

  Why is this even a problem? In Windows 10 (and 11 and perhaps even
earlier), you see little thumbnail-like windows of the multiple
instances if you hover over the icon on the Taskbar. So instead of tiny
instances on the Taskbar, you see much bigger/clearer instances above
the Taskbar.

  For example, I have often multiple instances of the 'Command Prompt'
window open and I just hover over the icon on the Taskbar to see which
instances I have and then click on the little window of the desired one.

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#16948 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on 6 Feb 2025 13:19:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
>> Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
>> >> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
>> >> on the one you wanted.  
>> >
>> >You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
>> >then this doesn't help.
>> 
>> Why does MS mess things up that work well?
>
>  Why is this even a problem? In Windows 10 (and 11 and perhaps even
>earlier), you see little thumbnail-like windows of the multiple
>instances if you hover over the icon on the Taskbar. So instead of tiny
>instances on the Taskbar, you see much bigger/clearer instances above
>the Taskbar.
>
>  For example, I have often multiple instances of the 'Command Prompt'
>window open and I just hover 

You say "just" but imagine if there was room for only one item on the
task bar and to go to any of your programs, you had to hover over it,
wait for it to display all of them and then click on the one you want. I
would find that delay very annoying.  Maybe you would too. 

In addition, I gradually moved everything from the ql bar to the task
bar, but there isn't room for all of the programs I use regularly**. 

**On win10:  Volume Mixer, Solitaire, File explorer, Free Alarm Clock,
Notepad++, Notepads, Kindle, Forte Agent, Tunein, Task Manager,
RadioMaximus, Everything, Wordpad (also gone in win11), CMD, Settings,
Chrome, MyPhoneExplorer, Firefox, AutoHotKey, Libreoffice Writer, Anvir
Task Manager
    and on occasion Fastone Image Viewer, Ifranview, Ransack, XnView,
Willmaker, Pandora, TccLe, Power Toys, Macrium Reflect, VLC 
    and on rare occasions Whatsapp, Thunderbird, Battery Viewer, Speccy,
Zoom, Universal USB Installer, ExpressVPN, Minitool Data Recovery,
Skype, 

These fit in three rows of the taskbar in win10, and I have 2 rows
showing with a scroll bar thoughtfully provided by MS on the right, but
they won't come close to fitting in win11.  

>over the icon on the Taskbar to see which
>instances I have and then click on the little window of the desired one.

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#16957 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on 6 Feb 2025 13:19:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> >> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
> >> Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
> >> >> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
> >> >> on the one you wanted.  
> >> >
> >> >You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
> >> >then this doesn't help.
> >> 
> >> Why does MS mess things up that work well?
> >
> >  Why is this even a problem? In Windows 10 (and 11 and perhaps even
> >earlier), you see little thumbnail-like windows of the multiple
> >instances if you hover over the icon on the Taskbar. So instead of tiny
> >instances on the Taskbar, you see much bigger/clearer instances above
> >the Taskbar.
> >
> >  For example, I have often multiple instances of the 'Command Prompt'
> >window open and I just hover over the icon on the Taskbar to see
> >which instances I have and then click on the little window of the
> >desired one.
> 
> You say "just" but imagine if there was room for only one item on the
> task bar and to go to any of your programs, you had to hover over it,
> wait for it to display all of them and then click on the one you want. I
> would find that delay very annoying.  Maybe you would too. 

  There is no "wait for it to display all of them"! It's instant! I
can't time it, but it's probably a tenth of a second. Why don't you just
try it, instead of imagining 'problems' which don't actually exist.

  BTW, "imagine if there was room for only one item on the task bar and
to go to any of your programs," has nothing to do with it. It's only
relevant to multiple instances of the *same* program. See/read my
example of multiple instances of the 'Command Prompt' or your example of
multiple instances of Chrome or Firefox. (Just to be sure, I had checked
it for Chrome and it works exactly the same, which is as expected,
because it's a function of Windows, not of Chrome/Firefox/<whatever>.)

> In addition, I gradually moved everything from the ql bar to the task
> bar, but there isn't room for all of the programs I use regularly**. 
> 
> **On win10:  Volume Mixer, Solitaire, File explorer, Free Alarm Clock,
> Notepad++, Notepads, Kindle, Forte Agent, Tunein, Task Manager,
> RadioMaximus, Everything, Wordpad (also gone in win11), CMD, Settings,
> Chrome, MyPhoneExplorer, Firefox, AutoHotKey, Libreoffice Writer, Anvir
> Task Manager

  If I count correctly, that's 22 icons. As I mentioned earlier, I have
plenty of space in both unused areas of my Taskbar. I have currently 16
icons and can easily accomodate 6 more and that's *not* counting the
rather large space used by my System tray icons.

>     and on occasion Fastone Image Viewer, Ifranview, Ransack, XnView,
> Willmaker, Pandora, TccLe, Power Toys, Macrium Reflect, VLC 
>     and on rare occasions Whatsapp, Thunderbird, Battery Viewer, Speccy,
> Zoom, Universal USB Installer, ExpressVPN, Minitool Data Recovery,
> Skype, 
>
> These fit in three rows of the taskbar in win10, and I have 2 rows
> showing with a scroll bar thoughtfully provided by MS on the right, but
> they won't come close to fitting in win11.  

  For those "on occasion" and "on rare occasions" you can use a start
menu (I use Open-Shell Menu) or/and the Desktop. Why would you clutter
your Taskbar with stuff you use "on (rare) occasion(s)"?

  So yes, this maybe functionality in Windows 10 which is no longer in
Windows 11. So you can either sue Microsoft or go on with life and do
things in a bit different way, which has always been possible and is
less cluttered.

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#16964 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

Frank Slootweg wrote on 2/10/25 12:16 PM:
> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> In addition, I gradually moved everything from the ql bar to the task
>> bar, but there isn't room for all of the programs I use regularly**.
>>
>> **On win10:  Volume Mixer, Solitaire, File explorer, Free Alarm Clock,
>> Notepad++, Notepads, Kindle, Forte Agent, Tunein, Task Manager,
>> RadioMaximus, Everything, Wordpad (also gone in win11), CMD, Settings,
>> Chrome, MyPhoneExplorer, Firefox, AutoHotKey, Libreoffice Writer, Anvir
>> Task Manager
> 
>    If I count correctly, that's 22 icons. As I mentioned earlier, I have
> plenty of space in both unused areas of my Taskbar. I have currently 16
> icons and can easily accomodate 6 more and that's *not* counting the
> rather large space used by my System tray icons.

I've 21 on the Win11 Pro Taskbar, with room for more(though don't need more).
  No waiting for icon  to display. I know what each icon represents, thus 
use is either mouse to or touch/tap the icon to open the program, app, or 
Windows/3rd party utility.

For anything else, in a user named group(Programs, Apps, Utilities, 
Office, System) on the Start Menu. - obviously a few redundant(in a group 
and on Taskbar)...but all usual and everything else needed for my usage 
easily and timely accessible.

Even in Win7 and earlier didn't use or care much for the flyout menu. 
Once the  became available  with Vista...it was my go to taskbar route in 
8/10. With Win8/11 grouping items and the taskbar, the QL became less 
used.  With Win11, I still have the QL shortcuts in the default 
userprofile appdata\roaming folder with that QL folder only pinned to the 
Start Menu.
> 

>    So yes, this maybe functionality in Windows 10 which is no longer in
> Windows 11. So you can either sue Microsoft or go on with life and do
> things in a bit different way, which has always been possible and is
> less cluttered.
>

I could never tolerate desktop clutter - shortcuts or saved files. I have 
5 total items on my desktop(iTunes, my user folder, This pC, Network, and 
Recycle Bin).



-- 
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ

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#16975 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

..w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 2/10/25 12:16 PM:
> > micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> >> In addition, I gradually moved everything from the ql bar to the task
> >> bar, but there isn't room for all of the programs I use regularly**.
> >>
> >> **On win10:  Volume Mixer, Solitaire, File explorer, Free Alarm Clock,
> >> Notepad++, Notepads, Kindle, Forte Agent, Tunein, Task Manager,
> >> RadioMaximus, Everything, Wordpad (also gone in win11), CMD, Settings,
> >> Chrome, MyPhoneExplorer, Firefox, AutoHotKey, Libreoffice Writer, Anvir
> >> Task Manager
> > 
> >    If I count correctly, that's 22 icons. As I mentioned earlier, I have
> > plenty of space in both unused areas of my Taskbar. I have currently 16
> > icons and can easily accomodate 6 more and that's *not* counting the
> > rather large space used by my System tray icons.
> 
> I've 21 on the Win11 Pro Taskbar, with room for more(though don't need more).
>   No waiting for icon  to display. I know what each icon represents, thus 
> use is either mouse to or touch/tap the icon to open the program, app, or 
> Windows/3rd party utility.

  To be clear, the (no) "waiting for icon  to display" (non-)issue is
only for those icons which 'hide' ('Combine taskbar buttons' setting)
multiple instances/windows of the *same* program. For me that's multiple
'Command Prompt' windows. For micky it's multiple Chrome or Firefox
windows.

  But, as I said, it's a non-issue, because one knows which icon to
hover over and then the 'thumbnails'/little windows of the instances
instantly pop up above the Taskbar.

[...]

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#16965 — Re: WIN1 1One-line taskbar; Starting wndwos without pasword

On Mon, 2/10/2025 11:35 AM, micky wrote:
> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on 6 Feb 2025 13:19:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>> In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 3 Feb 2025 10:30:22 +0100, Herbert
>>> Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> starting the program.  The win10 task bar let you see each of multiple
>>>>> instances of the program, as with Chrome or Firefox, so you couuld click
>>>>> on the one you wanted.  
>>>>
>>>> You can change this in the taskbar settings. But if the taskbar is full,
>>>> then this doesn't help.
>>>
>>> Why does MS mess things up that work well?
>>
>>  Why is this even a problem? In Windows 10 (and 11 and perhaps even
>> earlier), you see little thumbnail-like windows of the multiple
>> instances if you hover over the icon on the Taskbar. So instead of tiny
>> instances on the Taskbar, you see much bigger/clearer instances above
>> the Taskbar.
>>
>>  For example, I have often multiple instances of the 'Command Prompt'
>> window open and I just hover 
> 
> You say "just" but imagine if there was room for only one item on the
> task bar and to go to any of your programs, you had to hover over it,
> wait for it to display all of them and then click on the one you want. I
> would find that delay very annoying.  Maybe you would too. 
> 
> In addition, I gradually moved everything from the ql bar to the task
> bar, but there isn't room for all of the programs I use regularly**. 
> 
> **On win10:  Volume Mixer, Solitaire, File explorer, Free Alarm Clock,
> Notepad++, Notepads, Kindle, Forte Agent, Tunein, Task Manager,
> RadioMaximus, Everything, Wordpad (also gone in win11), CMD, Settings,
> Chrome, MyPhoneExplorer, Firefox, AutoHotKey, Libreoffice Writer, Anvir
> Task Manager
>     and on occasion Fastone Image Viewer, Ifranview, Ransack, XnView,
> Willmaker, Pandora, TccLe, Power Toys, Macrium Reflect, VLC 
>     and on rare occasions Whatsapp, Thunderbird, Battery Viewer, Speccy,
> Zoom, Universal USB Installer, ExpressVPN, Minitool Data Recovery,
> Skype, 
> 
> These fit in three rows of the taskbar in win10, and I have 2 rows
> showing with a scroll bar thoughtfully provided by MS on the right, but
> they won't come close to fitting in win11.  
> 
>> over the icon on the Taskbar to see which
>> instances I have and then click on the little window of the desired one.

There is a registry entry that controls "hover time". Enterprising
individuals change this and slow it down on purpose

   "To prevent the hover items from appearing when my mouse passes over then"

Well, you can't have it both ways, "hover resistance" and "fast hovering"
at the same time.

Frank has the nominal value, as do I.

   HKCU\Control Panel\Mouse\
          MouseHoverTime   REG_SZ   400          # Units of milliseconds

People who don't like the Hover, set it to 30000.
Setting it back to 400 would make it more responsive.

   Paul




   Paul

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