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BRAXMAN: IPv6

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First post2026-07-01 21:12 +0200
Last post2026-07-02 21:01 +0100
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  BRAXMAN: IPv6 Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> - 2026-07-01 21:12 +0200
    Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-01 21:36 +0200
      Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:48 -0400
    Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2026-07-02 00:52 +0000
      Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-01 22:14 -0400
        Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-02 02:31 +0000
        Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 10:18 +0200
          Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 22:48 +1000
            Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 22:37 +0200
              Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-03 20:57 +1000
                Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-03 14:23 +0200
                  Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-04 23:45 +1000
          Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:15 +0100
          Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-07-06 14:28 +0300
            Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:39 +0200
    Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 watching you? IPv4? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 18:59 +0800
    Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:01 +0100

#32786 — BRAXMAN: IPv6

FromAnonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net>
Date2026-07-01 21:12 +0200
SubjectBRAXMAN: IPv6
Message-ID<74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net>
IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o

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#32787

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-01 21:36 +0200
Message-ID<nal8hmFqj72U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32786
On 2026-07-01 21:12, Anonymous wrote:
> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o

I would prefer text. Please summarize.



IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare (Good News and the 
Bad News)
Rob Braxman Tech
742K subscribers


Jul 1, 2026
The vast majority of people, even tech people, do not understand the 
dangers of IPv6. This mysterious feature of the Internet is even being 
used actively by some Big Tech sites and we thought this was only used 
internally. You do even know that you have multiple routes over the 
Internet and some are dangerous but some are not. You can have full 
control over where your traffic goes and not let IPv6 dictate and this 
will decide how much privacy and security you will get.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32790

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2026-07-01 19:48 -0400
Message-ID<11248vj$27ntr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32787
On Wed, 7/1/2026 3:36 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-01 21:12, Anonymous wrote:
>> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
> 
> I would prefer text. Please summarize.
> 
> 
> 
> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare (Good News and the Bad News)
> Rob Braxman Tech
> 742K subscribers
> 
> 
> Jul 1, 2026
> The vast majority of people, even tech people, do not understand the dangers of IPv6. This mysterious feature of the Internet is even being used actively by some Big Tech sites and we thought this was only used internally. You do even know that you have multiple routes over the Internet and some are dangerous but some are not. You can have full control over where your traffic goes and not let IPv6 dictate and this will decide how much privacy and security you will get.
> 

Bizarre. Now I'm afraid of my own shadow.

https://whatismyipaddress.com/

   My IP Address is:

   IPv4: ? 11.111.111.111
   IPv6: ? Not detected	    <=== HaHaBraxmanFUDForSale

   Your location may be exposed!  [It is. I'm on Earth somewhere]
   Hide My IP Address Now         [Slips brown paper bag over IP address]

   Show Complete IP Details

IDK, I guess off by hundreds of miles. It shows
the head office of the ISP.

Looks like all those proxies I'm using, have paid off.

   Paul



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#32791

FromDavid LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com>
Date2026-07-02 00:52 +0000
Message-ID<XnsB47CD44AEFC47hueydlltampabayrrcom@157.180.91.226>
In reply to#32786
Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in 
news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net:

> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o

IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols.  Nothing biased about them.  
Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too.

This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself 
is spying on you.  It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other 
companies servers.  Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other 
external sources to be happy.  The embedded AI is scary by default and please 
don't enable the full undo option.  Then nothing is private on your machine.

YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you 
like and mostly feeding you stuff like that.  It can be worse than FB.

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#32793

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2026-07-01 22:14 -0400
Message-ID<1124hik$29ldv$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32791
On Wed, 7/1/2026 8:52 PM, David LaRue wrote:
> Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in 
> news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net:
> 
>> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
> 
> IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols.  Nothing biased about them.  
> Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too.
> 
> This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself 
> is spying on you.  It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other 
> companies servers.  Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other 
> external sources to be happy.  The embedded AI is scary by default and please 
> don't enable the full undo option.  Then nothing is private on your machine.
> 
> YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you 
> like and mostly feeding you stuff like that.  It can be worse than FB.

The premise of most of these spamvertised Youtube links is
dodgy to begin with. It's not like we're watching these things.
It's just a talking head video full of FUD. What a time to be alive.

   Paul

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#32794

FromNick Charles <none@none.none>
Date2026-07-02 02:31 +0000
Message-ID<KSednTD8zPrlUNj3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com>
In reply to#32793
On Jul 1, 2026 at 10:14:43 PM EDT, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

> On Wed, 7/1/2026 8:52 PM, David LaRue wrote:
>> Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in
>> news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net:
>> 
>>> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
>>> 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
>> 
>> IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols.  Nothing biased about them.
>> Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too.
>> 
>> This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself
>> is spying on you.  It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other
>> companies servers.  Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other
>> external sources to be happy.  The embedded AI is scary by default and please
>> don't enable the full undo option.  Then nothing is private on your machine.
>> 
>> YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you
>> like and mostly feeding you stuff like that.  It can be worse than FB.
> 
> The premise of most of these spamvertised Youtube links is
> dodgy to begin with. It's not like we're watching these things.
> It's just a talking head video full of FUD. What a time to be alive.
> 
>    Paul

It is beyond dodgy.  It is pure BS.  The people posting this shit are the
owners of the YouTube "channel".  It is pure spam with the goal of increasing
the view numbers of the channel. 

Youtube is a 99% garbage site. The only useful things are the "how to" videos.
 This political/paranoia/privacy stuff is complete shit.  There is no one in
charge there. Anyone can post whatever videos they want.  There are people
"proving" that Earth is flat, FFS. 

The funny part is that they think usenet is a great place to advertise.  It
would have been 25 years ago. Today, there might be as many as 30 people
seeing this. And most of them are smart enough to ignore it.

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#32797

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 10:18 +0200
Message-ID<naml6gF46poU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32793
On 2026-07-02 04:14, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 7/1/2026 8:52 PM, David LaRue wrote:
>> Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in
>> news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net:
>>
>>> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
>>
>> IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols.  Nothing biased about them.
>> Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too.
>>
>> This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself
>> is spying on you.  It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other
>> companies servers.  Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other
>> external sources to be happy.  The embedded AI is scary by default and please
>> don't enable the full undo option.  Then nothing is private on your machine.
>>
>> YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you
>> like and mostly feeding you stuff like that.  It can be worse than FB.
> 
> The premise of most of these spamvertised Youtube links is
> dodgy to begin with. It's not like we're watching these things.
> It's just a talking head video full of FUD. What a time to be alive.

My guess, not watching the video, is that they notice that IPv6 (if 
actually deployed) gives a single fixed IP to each home on earth, 
possibly to each human. It allows things that were initially designed 
for IPv4 but died because there were not enough addresses for everybody. 
Things like sending an email with a "link" to some photos or videos 
located at your home computer directly, without using an intermediary to 
host the files. Or play a game with somebody without intermediaries. 
Direct email without servers becomes possible.

On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly 
changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly 
provider that uses dynamic addresses).

Fixed IPs is a problem if you intend to use file sharing systems like 
torrent or emule.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32800

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-07-02 22:48 +1000
Message-ID<1125mn1$2jjg4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32797
On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:

<Snip>

> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly 
> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly 
> provider that uses dynamic addresses).

Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic addressing 
and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic addressing are 
silly!!

WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or 
can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??
-- 
Daniel70

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#32804

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 22:37 +0200
Message-ID<nao0g1Fb1jlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32800
On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
> <Snip>
> 
>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly 
>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly 
>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
> 
> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic addressing 
> and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic addressing are 
> silly!!
> 
> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or 
> can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??

Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32815

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-07-03 20:57 +1000
Message-ID<11284ia$3b8td$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32804
On 3/07/2026 6:37 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly 
>>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly 
>>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
>>
>> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic 
>> addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic 
>> addressing are silly!!
>>
>> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or 
>> can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??
> 
> Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer.
> 
No, Carlos, you give me more credit than I deserve. I am merely just 
trying to increase my knowledge.

Sorry.
-- 
Daniel70

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#32816

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-03 14:23 +0200
Message-ID<napnt9Five0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32815
On 2026-07-03 12:57, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 3/07/2026 6:37 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly 
>>>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly 
>>>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
>>>
>>> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic 
>>> addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic 
>>> addressing are silly!!
>>>
>>> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or 
>>> can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??
>>
>> Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer.
>>
> No, Carlos, you give me more credit than I deserve. I am merely just 
> trying to increase my knowledge.
> 
> Sorry.

ISPs use dynamic addressing with IPv4 simply because they don't have 
enough addresses to give us static addresses. Counting on a number of 
clients to not be connected at all.

ISPs using IPv6 have tons of addresses to give each home. They do not 
need to use dynamic addresses, except to destroy the new functionalities 
that IPv6 with fixed addresses allow.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32836

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-07-04 23:45 +1000
Message-ID<112b2p5$5msk$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32816
On 3/07/2026 10:23 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-07-03 12:57, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 3/07/2026 6:37 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <Snip>
>>>>
>>>>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly 
>>>>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly 
>>>>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic 
>>>> addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic 
>>>> addressing are silly!!
>>>>
>>>> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? 
>>>> Or can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??
>>>
>>> Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer.
>>>
>> No, Carlos, you give me more credit than I deserve. I am merely just 
>> trying to increase my knowledge.
>>
>> Sorry.
> 
> ISPs use dynamic addressing with IPv4 simply because they don't have 
> enough addresses to give us static addresses. Counting on a number of 
> clients to not be connected at all.
> 
> ISPs using IPv6 have tons of addresses to give each home. They do not 
> need to use dynamic addresses, except to destroy the new functionalities 
> that IPv6 with fixed addresses allow.
> 
Thank you, Carlos.
-- 
Daniel70

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#32803

FromBrian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 21:15 +0100
Message-ID<nanv6cFb7ojU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32797
There is no reason at all why all your devices with IPv6 connectivity 
shouldn't use IPv6 addresses that change every day, which is for more 
often than IPv4 addresses are likely to change.

See RFC 8981  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8981

Braxman also suggests a few completely demented fixes for IPv6 privacy, 
based on him making so little effort to understand IPv6 that he actually 
thinks devices that only have link-local IPv6 addresses still have 
access to the IPv6 Internet!!! What a complete dope he must be.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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#32865

FromAnssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi>
Date2026-07-06 14:28 +0300
Message-ID<sm08q7o5pdn.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi>
In reply to#32797
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly
> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly
> provider that uses dynamic addresses).

My telco at least assigns a new address to the 4G module in my router
every time it connects. I haven't really checked on my phone but likely
it's the same. My fiber ISP gives out a /56 and it remains the same for
a few months at a time, I guess it changes when they change something or
reboot something.

> Fixed IPs is a problem if you intend to use file sharing systems like
> torrent or emule.

Wow, is emule still around? Still, I'd assume "everyone" uses VPN or
seedboxes for that sort of thing. Or not if just sharing free stuff.

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#32866

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-07-06 13:39 +0200
Message-ID<nb1ifaFpadpU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32865
On 2026-07-06 13:28, Anssi Saari wrote:
> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> 
>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly
>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly
>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
> 
> My telco at least assigns a new address to the 4G module in my router
> every time it connects. I haven't really checked on my phone but likely
> it's the same. My fiber ISP gives out a /56 and it remains the same for
> a few months at a time, I guess it changes when they change something or
> reboot something.
> 
>> Fixed IPs is a problem if you intend to use file sharing systems like
>> torrent or emule.
> 
> Wow, is emule still around? Still, I'd assume "everyone" uses VPN or
> seedboxes for that sort of thing. Or not if just sharing free stuff.

I think it is, but I have no current knowledge.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#32798 — Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 watching you? IPv4?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-02 18:59 +0800
SubjectRe: BRAXMAN: IPv6 watching you? IPv4?
Message-ID<1125gaa$2himi$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#32786
On 7/2/2026 3:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o

IPv4 is watching you, too! Boring....

-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw
          The game is afoot... Meow...

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#32802

FromBrian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid>
Date2026-07-02 21:01 +0100
Message-ID<nanuc5Fb0pvU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#32786
On 01/07/2026 20:12, Anonymous wrote:
> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o

It really isn't worth watching this video. Rob Braxman actually seems to 
know nothing at all about IPv6. He is a IPv6 idiot. He makes up weird 
ideas as he goes using his limited IPv4 knowledge and it's almost all wrong.

-- 
Brian Gregory (in England).

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