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| Started by | Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> |
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| First post | 2026-07-01 21:12 +0200 |
| Last post | 2026-07-02 21:01 +0100 |
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BRAXMAN: IPv6 Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> - 2026-07-01 21:12 +0200
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-01 21:36 +0200
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-01 19:48 -0400
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2026-07-02 00:52 +0000
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-01 22:14 -0400
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Nick Charles <none@none.none> - 2026-07-02 02:31 +0000
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 10:18 +0200
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-02 22:48 +1000
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-02 22:37 +0200
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-03 20:57 +1000
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-03 14:23 +0200
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-04 23:45 +1000
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:15 +0100
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2026-07-06 14:28 +0300
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:39 +0200
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 watching you? IPv4? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-02 18:59 +0800
Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-07-02 21:01 +0100
| From | Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-07-01 21:12 +0200 |
| Subject | BRAXMAN: IPv6 |
| Message-ID | <74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net> |
IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-01 21:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nal8hmFqj72U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32786 |
On 2026-07-01 21:12, Anonymous wrote:
> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
I would prefer text. Please summarize.
IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare (Good News and the
Bad News)
Rob Braxman Tech
742K subscribers
Jul 1, 2026
The vast majority of people, even tech people, do not understand the
dangers of IPv6. This mysterious feature of the Internet is even being
used actively by some Big Tech sites and we thought this was only used
internally. You do even know that you have multiple routes over the
Internet and some are dangerous but some are not. You can have full
control over where your traffic goes and not let IPv6 dictate and this
will decide how much privacy and security you will get.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-01 19:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <11248vj$27ntr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32787 |
On Wed, 7/1/2026 3:36 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-01 21:12, Anonymous wrote: >> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o > > I would prefer text. Please summarize. > > > > IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare (Good News and the Bad News) > Rob Braxman Tech > 742K subscribers > > > Jul 1, 2026 > The vast majority of people, even tech people, do not understand the dangers of IPv6. This mysterious feature of the Internet is even being used actively by some Big Tech sites and we thought this was only used internally. You do even know that you have multiple routes over the Internet and some are dangerous but some are not. You can have full control over where your traffic goes and not let IPv6 dictate and this will decide how much privacy and security you will get. > Bizarre. Now I'm afraid of my own shadow. https://whatismyipaddress.com/ My IP Address is: IPv4: ? 11.111.111.111 IPv6: ? Not detected <=== HaHaBraxmanFUDForSale Your location may be exposed! [It is. I'm on Earth somewhere] Hide My IP Address Now [Slips brown paper bag over IP address] Show Complete IP Details IDK, I guess off by hundreds of miles. It shows the head office of the ISP. Looks like all those proxies I'm using, have paid off. Paul
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| From | David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 00:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsB47CD44AEFC47hueydlltampabayrrcom@157.180.91.226> |
| In reply to | #32786 |
Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net: > IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols. Nothing biased about them. Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too. This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself is spying on you. It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other companies servers. Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other external sources to be happy. The embedded AI is scary by default and please don't enable the full undo option. Then nothing is private on your machine. YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you like and mostly feeding you stuff like that. It can be worse than FB.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-01 22:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1124hik$29ldv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32791 |
On Wed, 7/1/2026 8:52 PM, David LaRue wrote: > Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in > news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net: > >> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o > > IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols. Nothing biased about them. > Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too. > > This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself > is spying on you. It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other > companies servers. Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other > external sources to be happy. The embedded AI is scary by default and please > don't enable the full undo option. Then nothing is private on your machine. > > YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you > like and mostly feeding you stuff like that. It can be worse than FB. The premise of most of these spamvertised Youtube links is dodgy to begin with. It's not like we're watching these things. It's just a talking head video full of FUD. What a time to be alive. Paul
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| From | Nick Charles <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 02:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <KSednTD8zPrlUNj3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #32793 |
On Jul 1, 2026 at 10:14:43 PM EDT, "Paul" <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 7/1/2026 8:52 PM, David LaRue wrote: >> Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in >> news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net: >> >>> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o >> >> IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols. Nothing biased about them. >> Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too. >> >> This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself >> is spying on you. It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other >> companies servers. Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other >> external sources to be happy. The embedded AI is scary by default and please >> don't enable the full undo option. Then nothing is private on your machine. >> >> YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you >> like and mostly feeding you stuff like that. It can be worse than FB. > > The premise of most of these spamvertised Youtube links is > dodgy to begin with. It's not like we're watching these things. > It's just a talking head video full of FUD. What a time to be alive. > > Paul It is beyond dodgy. It is pure BS. The people posting this shit are the owners of the YouTube "channel". It is pure spam with the goal of increasing the view numbers of the channel. Youtube is a 99% garbage site. The only useful things are the "how to" videos. This political/paranoia/privacy stuff is complete shit. There is no one in charge there. Anyone can post whatever videos they want. There are people "proving" that Earth is flat, FFS. The funny part is that they think usenet is a great place to advertise. It would have been 25 years ago. Today, there might be as many as 30 people seeing this. And most of them are smart enough to ignore it.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 10:18 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <naml6gF46poU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32793 |
On 2026-07-02 04:14, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 7/1/2026 8:52 PM, David LaRue wrote:
>> Anonymous <bounce.me@n2n.oc2mx.net> wrote in
>> news:74939c22b3aedc6e27cb@n2n.oc2mx.net:
>>
>>> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
>>
>> IPv4 and IPv6 are just communication protocols. Nothing biased about them.
>> Just realize the other end of all conversations are helping/watching you too.
>>
>> This discussion is funny, being in a Windows 11 Group, because the OS itself
>> is spying on you. It offloads most work to The Cloud, Microsoft and other
>> companies servers. Users these days depend highly on email, web, and other
>> external sources to be happy. The embedded AI is scary by default and please
>> don't enable the full undo option. Then nothing is private on your machine.
>>
>> YT has some decent info, but don't fall into the trap of YT knowing what you
>> like and mostly feeding you stuff like that. It can be worse than FB.
>
> The premise of most of these spamvertised Youtube links is
> dodgy to begin with. It's not like we're watching these things.
> It's just a talking head video full of FUD. What a time to be alive.
My guess, not watching the video, is that they notice that IPv6 (if
actually deployed) gives a single fixed IP to each home on earth,
possibly to each human. It allows things that were initially designed
for IPv4 but died because there were not enough addresses for everybody.
Things like sending an email with a "link" to some photos or videos
located at your home computer directly, without using an intermediary to
host the files. Or play a game with somebody without intermediaries.
Direct email without servers becomes possible.
On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly
changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly
provider that uses dynamic addresses).
Fixed IPs is a problem if you intend to use file sharing systems like
torrent or emule.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 22:48 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1125mn1$2jjg4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32797 |
On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: <Snip> > On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly > changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly > provider that uses dynamic addresses). Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic addressing are silly!! WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing?? -- Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 22:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nao0g1Fb1jlU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32800 |
On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> <Snip>
>
>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly
>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly
>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
>
> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic addressing
> and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic addressing are
> silly!!
>
> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or
> can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??
Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-07-03 20:57 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <11284ia$3b8td$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32804 |
On 3/07/2026 6:37 am, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> <Snip> >> >>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly >>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly >>> provider that uses dynamic addresses). >> >> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic >> addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic >> addressing are silly!! >> >> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or >> can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing?? > > Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer. > No, Carlos, you give me more credit than I deserve. I am merely just trying to increase my knowledge. Sorry. -- Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-03 14:23 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <napnt9Five0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32815 |
On 2026-07-03 12:57, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 3/07/2026 6:37 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snip>
>>>
>>>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly
>>>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly
>>>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
>>>
>>> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic
>>> addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic
>>> addressing are silly!!
>>>
>>> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? Or
>>> can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing??
>>
>> Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer.
>>
> No, Carlos, you give me more credit than I deserve. I am merely just
> trying to increase my knowledge.
>
> Sorry.
ISPs use dynamic addressing with IPv4 simply because they don't have
enough addresses to give us static addresses. Counting on a number of
clients to not be connected at all.
ISPs using IPv6 have tons of addresses to give each home. They do not
need to use dynamic addresses, except to destroy the new functionalities
that IPv6 with fixed addresses allow.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-07-04 23:45 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <112b2p5$5msk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32816 |
On 3/07/2026 10:23 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-07-03 12:57, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 3/07/2026 6:37 am, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-07-02 14:48, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 2/07/2026 6:18 pm, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> >>>> <Snip> >>>> >>>>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly >>>>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly >>>>> provider that uses dynamic addresses). >>>> >>>> Sorry. WHAT?? First you type, Carlos, that IPv4 uses dynamic >>>> addressing and then you suggest any IPv6 providers that use dynamic >>>> addressing are silly!! >>>> >>>> WHAT?? Aren't IPv4 providers using dynamic addressing ALSO silly?? >>>> Or can IPv4 providers ONLY provide dynamic addressing?? >>> >>> Not bothering to answer, you are trolling. Surely you know the answer. >>> >> No, Carlos, you give me more credit than I deserve. I am merely just >> trying to increase my knowledge. >> >> Sorry. > > ISPs use dynamic addressing with IPv4 simply because they don't have > enough addresses to give us static addresses. Counting on a number of > clients to not be connected at all. > > ISPs using IPv6 have tons of addresses to give each home. They do not > need to use dynamic addresses, except to destroy the new functionalities > that IPv6 with fixed addresses allow. > Thank you, Carlos. -- Daniel70
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 21:15 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nanv6cFb7ojU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32797 |
There is no reason at all why all your devices with IPv6 connectivity shouldn't use IPv6 addresses that change every day, which is for more often than IPv4 addresses are likely to change. See RFC 8981 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8981 Braxman also suggests a few completely demented fixes for IPv6 privacy, based on him making so little effort to understand IPv6 that he actually thinks devices that only have link-local IPv6 addresses still have access to the IPv6 Internet!!! What a complete dope he must be. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 14:28 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <sm08q7o5pdn.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> |
| In reply to | #32797 |
"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes: > On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly > changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly > provider that uses dynamic addresses). My telco at least assigns a new address to the 4G module in my router every time it connects. I haven't really checked on my phone but likely it's the same. My fiber ISP gives out a /56 and it remains the same for a few months at a time, I guess it changes when they change something or reboot something. > Fixed IPs is a problem if you intend to use file sharing systems like > torrent or emule. Wow, is emule still around? Still, I'd assume "everyone" uses VPN or seedboxes for that sort of thing. Or not if just sharing free stuff.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-06 13:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nb1ifaFpadpU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32865 |
On 2026-07-06 13:28, Anssi Saari wrote:
> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
>
>> On IPv4 we use dynamic addresses. Our home address is constantly
>> changed. On IPv6 you get a fixed address (unless you have a silly
>> provider that uses dynamic addresses).
>
> My telco at least assigns a new address to the 4G module in my router
> every time it connects. I haven't really checked on my phone but likely
> it's the same. My fiber ISP gives out a /56 and it remains the same for
> a few months at a time, I guess it changes when they change something or
> reboot something.
>
>> Fixed IPs is a problem if you intend to use file sharing systems like
>> torrent or emule.
>
> Wow, is emule still around? Still, I'd assume "everyone" uses VPN or
> seedboxes for that sort of thing. Or not if just sharing free stuff.
I think it is, but I have no current knowledge.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 18:59 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: BRAXMAN: IPv6 watching you? IPv4? |
| Message-ID | <1125gaa$2himi$2@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #32786 |
On 7/2/2026 3:12 AM, Anonymous wrote:
> IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o
IPv4 is watching you, too! Boring....
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-07-02 21:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nanuc5Fb0pvU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #32786 |
On 01/07/2026 20:12, Anonymous wrote: > IPv6 Is Watching You: The Hidden Privacy Nightmare > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k8Hr5Aw73o It really isn't worth watching this video. Rob Braxman actually seems to know nothing at all about IPv6. He is a IPv6 idiot. He makes up weird ideas as he goes using his limited IPv4 knowledge and it's almost all wrong. -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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