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  Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-21 21:48 +0000
    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-21 17:34 -0500
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-21 23:44 +0000
    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 21:21 -0500
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-21 21:29 -0500
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 22:00 -0500
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 16:30 +1100
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 11:40 -0500
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-22 03:03 +0000
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-21 22:09 -0500
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-22 03:59 +0000
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-02-22 20:35 +0100
              Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 15:38 -0500
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-22 03:50 +0000
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-22 09:07 -0500
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 16:37 +1100
              Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-26 08:47 -0500
                Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 19:26 +0000
                  Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-26 17:01 -0500
                    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-27 02:05 +0000
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-22 20:00 +0000
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 15:58 -0500
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:32 +0000
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-22 15:55 -0600
    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 22:02 -0500
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-22 05:46 -0600
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 11:33 -0500
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-22 17:23 +0000
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:58 -0500
              Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:22 +0000
                Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:30 +0000
                Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 16:46 -0500
                  Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-23 13:31 +0000
                    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-23 08:50 -0500
                      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-23 14:19 +0000
                      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-23 15:01 +0000
                      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-23 10:38 -0500
                    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 14:29 -0500
                      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-23 22:10 +0000
                        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-23 22:25 +0000
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 16:22 -0500
              Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:48 +0000
              Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-23 05:08 +0000
    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-22 13:17 +0100
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-02-22 20:09 +0100
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-22 13:39 -0600
          Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-02-22 23:41 +0100
            Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-22 17:12 -0600
              Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-02-23 00:27 +0100
                Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-22 18:08 -0600
                  Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-23 11:06 +0000
        Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-23 10:50 +0100
    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-06 21:57 +0000
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-06 21:29 -0400
    Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-09 00:10 +0000
      Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-08 20:59 -0400

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#17403

On Sat, 2/22/2025 12:23 PM, Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
> On 2025-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip lies)
>>>>
>>>> Way to miss Lawrence's point, goofball,
>>>
>>> Any hyperbole or unfairness from Linux advocates pales in comparison
>>> to the avalanche of idiocy and lies from the haters.  Documented ad
>>> nauseum, in here.
>>
>>
>> The only reason I promoted Win7 here, in the past, was because at the
>> time it really did represent something new and improved in computing.
>> Today, Linux is hands-down the winner.
> 
> Linux is the winner?
> At what?
> 
> I run Linux on this Thinkpad Yoga 14 because Windows 11 won't run on it,
> and Windows 10 is dead soon. So in that case Linux is better.
> This laptop can be folded into a tablet, and I can tell you that under
> Win 10, worked a charm. Under Linux, screen orientation doesn't work,
> virtual keyboard doesn't work. I only get a virtual keyboard at the
> logon screen.
> 
> On a 15" Alienware laptop, it's had Windows 11 on it for 3+ years.
> Runs great, has never blue screened, locked up, refused to do my
> bidding. Some Windows updates have broken the Dell Support App and the
> Alienware Command Center, but a fix usually comes from MS or Dell, or a
> Revo uninstall/reinstall fixes it. I wouldn't even bother putting Linux
> on the Alienware, as I doubt selecting which video card I want is an
> option under Linux, and I doubt fan control would be as easy under Linux
> as it is with Windows 11.
> 
> Windows 11 is a computing tool.
> Linux is a computing tool.
> 
> The choices being available is the winner.
> 

Thinkpad Yoga 14   $1100     Reviewed February 11, 2015

1TB hard drive with an extra 16GB of solid-state cache... <=== boo and/or hiss (until the cache fails)

Core i5-4210U   2C 4T 15W 2.7GHz  4th gen Haswell
HD Graphics 4400    ~WDDM 2.0 or so
8GB of RAM
No mention of TPM, Secure Boot, UEFI

Win11 can be installed via Rufus-prepared USB stick. In
the same way my 4930K is currently running Windows 11.
Got there, using a Rufus.ie web site USB stick program.
Which can make a USB stick for a Linux ISO, or for a Windows ISO.
Uses SysLinux boot materials to make the stick boot.

If it really has a "hard drive" in it today, it would be
as slow as molasses at absolute zero, at boot time. Just deleting
the contents of the LCU folder (Last Cumulative Update), took
me ten minutes yesterday (my 1TB hard drive setup for commiserating
with HDD users). For one folder delete. You would want an SSD in
place of the hard drive, to improve the situation a bit.

You can get a 2.5" SSD, a Lexar, for around CDN $40 a piece.
That's what I use for scratch installs here. 256GB.

I noticed the slow NTFS HDD delete issue, on the Insider at first.
That the delete time of NTFS, it was taking a lot longer to delete.
Turning off Windows Defender didn't help. Even an SSD only helps a bit,
but every little bit counts at a time like that.

   Paul

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#17408

On 2025-02-22, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 2/22/2025 12:23 PM, Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>> On 2025-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip lies)
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to miss Lawrence's point, goofball,
>>>>
>>>> Any hyperbole or unfairness from Linux advocates pales in comparison
>>>> to the avalanche of idiocy and lies from the haters.  Documented ad
>>>> nauseum, in here.
>>>
>>>
>>> The only reason I promoted Win7 here, in the past, was because at the
>>> time it really did represent something new and improved in computing.
>>> Today, Linux is hands-down the winner.
>> 
>> Linux is the winner?
>> At what?
>> 
>> I run Linux on this Thinkpad Yoga 14 because Windows 11 won't run on it,
>> and Windows 10 is dead soon. So in that case Linux is better.
>> This laptop can be folded into a tablet, and I can tell you that under
>> Win 10, worked a charm. Under Linux, screen orientation doesn't work,
>> virtual keyboard doesn't work. I only get a virtual keyboard at the
>> logon screen.
>> 
>> On a 15" Alienware laptop, it's had Windows 11 on it for 3+ years.
>> Runs great, has never blue screened, locked up, refused to do my
>> bidding. Some Windows updates have broken the Dell Support App and the
>> Alienware Command Center, but a fix usually comes from MS or Dell, or a
>> Revo uninstall/reinstall fixes it. I wouldn't even bother putting Linux
>> on the Alienware, as I doubt selecting which video card I want is an
>> option under Linux, and I doubt fan control would be as easy under Linux
>> as it is with Windows 11.
>> 
>> Windows 11 is a computing tool.
>> Linux is a computing tool.
>> 
>> The choices being available is the winner.
>> 
>
> Thinkpad Yoga 14   $1100     Reviewed February 11, 2015
>
> 1TB hard drive with an extra 16GB of solid-state cache... <=== boo and/or hiss (until the cache fails)
>
> Core i5-4210U   2C 4T 15W 2.7GHz  4th gen Haswell
> HD Graphics 4400    ~WDDM 2.0 or so
> 8GB of RAM
> No mention of TPM, Secure Boot, UEFI

This Yoga is

CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-6200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
    L2: 512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 425 min/max: 400/2800 cores: 1: 500 2: 400 3: 400 4: 400
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 940M] driver: nvidia v: 570.86.16
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1 driver:
    X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
    resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 9.9 GiB (4.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: LITE-ON model: LCH-256V2S size: 238.47 GiB
Info:
  Processes: 186 Uptime: 0h 37m Memory: available: 7.65 GiB
  used: 1.52 GiB (19.9%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.27
 UEFI: LENOVO v: R05ET36W (1.14) date: 10/12/2015

> Win11 can be installed via Rufus-prepared USB stick. In
> the same way my 4930K is currently running Windows 11.
> Got there, using a Rufus.ie web site USB stick program.
> Which can make a USB stick for a Linux ISO, or for a Windows ISO.
> Uses SysLinux boot materials to make the stick boot.
>
> If it really has a "hard drive" in it today, it would be
> as slow as molasses at absolute zero, at boot time. Just deleting
> the contents of the LCU folder (Last Cumulative Update), took
> me ten minutes yesterday (my 1TB hard drive setup for commiserating
> with HDD users). For one folder delete. You would want an SSD in
> place of the hard drive, to improve the situation a bit.
>
> You can get a 2.5" SSD, a Lexar, for around CDN $40 a piece.
> That's what I use for scratch installs here. 256GB.
>
> I noticed the slow NTFS HDD delete issue, on the Insider at first.
> That the delete time of NTFS, it was taking a lot longer to delete.
> Turning off Windows Defender didn't help. Even an SSD only helps a bit,
> but every little bit counts at a time like that.
>
>    Paul


I'm going to use the laptop to learn Linux inside out ;)
Or just learn to use it.

-- 
End Transmission

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#17420

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 16:22:33 -0500, Paul wrote:

> Core i5-4210U   2C 4T 15W 2.7GHz  4th gen Haswell

The Fedora box is a Core i5-4590 and does well. It's not a high end 
processor but it is 4 cores and faster than the U (mobile) series,.

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#17379

On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)

Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.

-- 
s|b

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#17389

On 22/02/2025 13:17, s|b wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> 
>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
>> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)
> 
> Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.
> 
Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to filter 
on it.

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#17393

On 2/22/2025 1:09 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 13:17, s|b wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
>>> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)
>>
>> Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.
>>
> Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to filter 
> on it.

I'm of the opposite opinion.  I like when people remove it.
I've filtered anything out that contains COLA as a newsgroup and so if 
there are legitimate windows 11 responses I will not see them if they 
have that group attached.  It just got to be too much nonsense for me, 
though I'm sure I am missing things I otherwise would like to have read.

So maybe I am missing something in your reply you'd like to expand upon? 
  How is it that you think filters in this case make things work better?

-- 
Better Days Ahead!
Darwinism Is Junk Science!!

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#17411

On 22/02/2025 20:39, sticks wrote:
> On 2/22/2025 1:09 PM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 22/02/2025 13:17, s|b wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
>>>> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)
>>>
>>> Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.
>>>
>> Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to filter 
>> on it.
> 
> I'm of the opposite opinion.  I like when people remove it.
> I've filtered anything out that contains COLA as a newsgroup and so if 
> there are legitimate windows 11 responses I will not see them if they 
> have that group attached.  It just got to be too much nonsense for me, 
> though I'm sure I am missing things I otherwise would like to have read.
> 
> So maybe I am missing something in your reply you'd like to expand upon? 
>   How is it that you think filters in this case make things work better?
> 
COLA is 99% crap, whatever useful lost there is collateral damage.
Besides, s|b biting the "Flame bait from a Linux fanboy" is hardly 
useful, is it?

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#17412

On 2/22/2025 4:41 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 22/02/2025 20:39, sticks wrote:
>> On 2/22/2025 1:09 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2025 13:17, s|b wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
>>>>> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)
>>>>
>>>> Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.
>>>>
>>> Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to 
>>> filter on it.
>>
>> I'm of the opposite opinion.  I like when people remove it.
>> I've filtered anything out that contains COLA as a newsgroup and so if 
>> there are legitimate windows 11 responses I will not see them if they 
>> have that group attached.  It just got to be too much nonsense for me, 
>> though I'm sure I am missing things I otherwise would like to have read.
>>
>> So maybe I am missing something in your reply you'd like to expand 
>> upon?   How is it that you think filters in this case make things work 
>> better?
>>
> COLA is 99% crap, whatever useful lost there is collateral damage.
> Besides, s|b biting the "Flame bait from a Linux fanboy" is hardly 
> useful, is it?

OK, now I'm really confused.  Why did you say "don't" remove it then?

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Better Days Ahead!
Darwinism Is Junk Science!!

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#17414

On 23/02/2025 00:12, sticks wrote:
> On 2/22/2025 4:41 PM, dillinger wrote:
>> On 22/02/2025 20:39, sticks wrote:
>>> On 2/22/2025 1:09 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>> On 22/02/2025 13:17, s|b wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
>>>>>> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)
>>>>>
>>>>> Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.
>>>>>
>>>> Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to 
>>>> filter on it.
>>>
>>> I'm of the opposite opinion.  I like when people remove it.
>>> I've filtered anything out that contains COLA as a newsgroup and so 
>>> if there are legitimate windows 11 responses I will not see them if 
>>> they have that group attached.  It just got to be too much nonsense 
>>> for me, though I'm sure I am missing things I otherwise would like to 
>>> have read.
>>>
>>> So maybe I am missing something in your reply you'd like to expand 
>>> upon?   How is it that you think filters in this case make things 
>>> work better?
>>>
>> COLA is 99% crap, whatever useful lost there is collateral damage.
>> Besides, s|b biting the "Flame bait from a Linux fanboy" is hardly 
>> useful, is it?
> 
> OK, now I'm really confused.  Why did you say "don't" remove it then?
> 
s|b removed COLA from the list of groups he's posted his answer.
That evades my filter, and yours, probably, I'm a bit unclear about you, 
but I don't like that.

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#17416

On 2/22/2025 5:27 PM, dillinger wrote:
> On 23/02/2025 00:12, sticks wrote:
>> On 2/22/2025 4:41 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>> On 22/02/2025 20:39, sticks wrote:
>>>> On 2/22/2025 1:09 PM, dillinger wrote:
>>>>> On 22/02/2025 13:17, s|b wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 21:48:06 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11
>>>>>>> User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Flame bait from a Linux fanboy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to 
>>>>> filter on it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm of the opposite opinion.  I like when people remove it.
>>>> I've filtered anything out that contains COLA as a newsgroup and so 
>>>> if there are legitimate windows 11 responses I will not see them if 
>>>> they have that group attached.  It just got to be too much nonsense 
>>>> for me, though I'm sure I am missing things I otherwise would like 
>>>> to have read.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe I am missing something in your reply you'd like to expand 
>>>> upon?   How is it that you think filters in this case make things 
>>>> work better?
>>>>
>>> COLA is 99% crap, whatever useful lost there is collateral damage.
>>> Besides, s|b biting the "Flame bait from a Linux fanboy" is hardly 
>>> useful, is it?
>>
>> OK, now I'm really confused.  Why did you say "don't" remove it then?
>>
> s|b removed COLA from the list of groups he's posted his answer.
> That evades my filter, and yours, probably, I'm a bit unclear about you, 
> but I don't like that.

OK, I see what you mean at least.  I don't think it evaded my filter as 
it worked exactly as it was supposed to.  I think you should add a rule 
to ignore threads from anything including COLA in newsgroups filed if 
this is the result you want.  I do want to hear what some of the 
knowledgeable people who usually post in this group write.  Just not the 
noisy ones who's only reason for being here is to advocate for linux and 
bash MS.

Either way, when people post something, it should be their choice what 
groups they want to include and it is up to the reader to figure out how 
to deal with from there properly.

-- 
Better Days Ahead!
Darwinism Is Junk Science!!

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#17425

sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> On 2/22/2025 5:27 PM, dillinger wrote:

[Lots deleted. N.B. I agree with dillinger.]

> Either way, when people post something, it should be their choice what 
> groups they want to include and it is up to the reader to figure out how 
> to deal with from there properly.

  I don't fully agree. They *can* change the list of newsgroups, but
IMO, in general, they *should* not.

  Anyway, when snipping or adding newsgroups, it's common Netiquette/
courtesy to *say* so, so users are not caught off guard. For example in
this case, responses would no longer go to COLA. If not notified, users
might/will be unaware of this.

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#17422 — Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing [OT]

On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 20:09:20 +0100, dillinger wrote:

> Please don't remove cola, there are people here smart enough to filter 
> on it.

Please don't call yourself smart, leave that to others.

-- 
s|b

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#18321

Even the Dimdows Update mechanism -- you know, the one that
automatically puts stuff on your machine that you don’t want -- is
another major source of things that can go wrong. This article
<https://www.computerworld.com/article/1613310/how-to-troubleshoot-and-reset-windows-update.html>
suggests some things to try if the updater gives trouble (how would
you tell?). And boy, don’t those suggestions get progressively
nuttier.

The final one (or at least, the final thing to try before giving up
and taking your machine to someone who knows what they’re doing), a
“complete reset”, involves downloading and running some random batch
file off the Internet, which does all kinds of things to your system
that you don’t really want to know about, just trust the folks who
wrote the script, OK?

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#18322

On Sun, 4/6/2025 5:57 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Even the Dimdows Update mechanism -- you know, the one that
> automatically puts stuff on your machine that you don’t want -- is
> another major source of things that can go wrong. This article
> <https://www.computerworld.com/article/1613310/how-to-troubleshoot-and-reset-windows-update.html>
> suggests some things to try if the updater gives trouble (how would
> you tell?). And boy, don’t those suggestions get progressively
> nuttier.
> 
> The final one (or at least, the final thing to try before giving up
> and taking your machine to someone who knows what they’re doing), a
> “complete reset”, involves downloading and running some random batch
> file off the Internet, which does all kinds of things to your system
> that you don’t really want to know about, just trust the folks who
> wrote the script, OK?
> 

Well, the next time you have a problem, drop by, and we'll
tell you what to do.

   Paul

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#18350

Episode 343-or-something
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-install-windows-11-your-way-and-avoid-microsofts-restrictions/>:
“How to install Windows 11 your way (and avoid Microsoft's
restrictions)”.

Assuming that your typical Dimdows user has the attention span to read
to the end without their eyes glazing over ...

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#18355

On 4/8/25 8:10 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Episode 343-or-something
> <https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-install-windows-11-your-way-and-avoid-microsofts-restrictions/>:
> “How to install Windows 11 your way (and avoid Microsoft's
> restrictions)”.
> 
> Assuming that your typical Dimdows user has the attention span to read
> to the end without their eyes glazing over ...

The problem here is that installing things _your way_ are not even 
possible with either Windows or Mac OS. If there's one thing my rants 
about fTPM stuttering and DRM protections disabling external monitors 
should do, it's alert you to the fact that you never own your operating 
system with them, you're constantly asking them permission to use it.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
John 14:6

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