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| From | Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing |
| Date | 2025-02-22 21:48 +0000 |
| Organization | openSUSE 15.6 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvrkhhf.2ka.Adison@localhost.localdomain> (permalink) |
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Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 2025-02-22, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 2/22/2025 12:23 PM, Adison Vohn Caterson wrote:
>> On 2025-02-22, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Joel wrote:
>>>>> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (snip lies)
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to miss Lawrence's point, goofball,
>>>>
>>>> Any hyperbole or unfairness from Linux advocates pales in comparison
>>>> to the avalanche of idiocy and lies from the haters. Documented ad
>>>> nauseum, in here.
>>>
>>>
>>> The only reason I promoted Win7 here, in the past, was because at the
>>> time it really did represent something new and improved in computing.
>>> Today, Linux is hands-down the winner.
>>
>> Linux is the winner?
>> At what?
>>
>> I run Linux on this Thinkpad Yoga 14 because Windows 11 won't run on it,
>> and Windows 10 is dead soon. So in that case Linux is better.
>> This laptop can be folded into a tablet, and I can tell you that under
>> Win 10, worked a charm. Under Linux, screen orientation doesn't work,
>> virtual keyboard doesn't work. I only get a virtual keyboard at the
>> logon screen.
>>
>> On a 15" Alienware laptop, it's had Windows 11 on it for 3+ years.
>> Runs great, has never blue screened, locked up, refused to do my
>> bidding. Some Windows updates have broken the Dell Support App and the
>> Alienware Command Center, but a fix usually comes from MS or Dell, or a
>> Revo uninstall/reinstall fixes it. I wouldn't even bother putting Linux
>> on the Alienware, as I doubt selecting which video card I want is an
>> option under Linux, and I doubt fan control would be as easy under Linux
>> as it is with Windows 11.
>>
>> Windows 11 is a computing tool.
>> Linux is a computing tool.
>>
>> The choices being available is the winner.
>>
>
> Thinkpad Yoga 14 $1100 Reviewed February 11, 2015
>
> 1TB hard drive with an extra 16GB of solid-state cache... <=== boo and/or hiss (until the cache fails)
>
> Core i5-4210U 2C 4T 15W 2.7GHz 4th gen Haswell
> HD Graphics 4400 ~WDDM 2.0 or so
> 8GB of RAM
> No mention of TPM, Secure Boot, UEFI
This Yoga is
CPU:
Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-6200U bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
L2: 512 KiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 425 min/max: 400/2800 cores: 1: 500 2: 400 3: 400 4: 400
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] driver: i915 v: kernel
Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 940M] driver: nvidia v: 570.86.16
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.11 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.1 driver:
X: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 9.9 GiB (4.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: LITE-ON model: LCH-256V2S size: 238.47 GiB
Info:
Processes: 186 Uptime: 0h 37m Memory: available: 7.65 GiB
used: 1.52 GiB (19.9%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.27
UEFI: LENOVO v: R05ET36W (1.14) date: 10/12/2015
> Win11 can be installed via Rufus-prepared USB stick. In
> the same way my 4930K is currently running Windows 11.
> Got there, using a Rufus.ie web site USB stick program.
> Which can make a USB stick for a Linux ISO, or for a Windows ISO.
> Uses SysLinux boot materials to make the stick boot.
>
> If it really has a "hard drive" in it today, it would be
> as slow as molasses at absolute zero, at boot time. Just deleting
> the contents of the LCU folder (Last Cumulative Update), took
> me ten minutes yesterday (my 1TB hard drive setup for commiserating
> with HDD users). For one folder delete. You would want an SSD in
> place of the hard drive, to improve the situation a bit.
>
> You can get a 2.5" SSD, a Lexar, for around CDN $40 a piece.
> That's what I use for scratch installs here. 256GB.
>
> I noticed the slow NTFS HDD delete issue, on the Insider at first.
> That the delete time of NTFS, it was taking a lot longer to delete.
> Turning off Windows Defender didn't help. Even an SSD only helps a bit,
> but every little bit counts at a time like that.
>
> Paul
I'm going to use the laptop to learn Linux inside out ;)
Or just learn to use it.
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Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-21 21:48 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-21 17:34 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-21 23:44 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 21:21 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-21 21:29 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 22:00 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 16:30 +1100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 11:40 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-22 03:03 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-21 22:09 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-22 03:59 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-02-22 20:35 +0100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 15:38 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-22 03:50 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-22 09:07 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-26 16:37 +1100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-26 08:47 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-26 19:26 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-26 17:01 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-27 02:05 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-22 20:00 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 15:58 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:32 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-22 15:55 -0600
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-21 22:02 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-02-22 05:46 -0600
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 11:33 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-22 17:23 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 15:58 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:22 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:30 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-22 16:46 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-23 13:31 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-02-23 08:50 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-23 14:19 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-23 15:01 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-02-23 10:38 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 14:29 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-02-23 22:10 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-23 22:25 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-22 16:22 -0500
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Adison Vohn Caterson <Adison@Caterson.invalid> - 2025-02-22 21:48 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-23 05:08 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-22 13:17 +0100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-02-22 20:09 +0100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-22 13:39 -0600
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-02-22 23:41 +0100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-22 17:12 -0600
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2025-02-23 00:27 +0100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-02-22 18:08 -0600
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-23 11:06 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-02-23 10:50 +0100
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-06 21:57 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-06 21:29 -0400
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-09 00:10 +0000
Re: Windows Is A Great OS ... If Your Time Is Worth Nothing CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-08 20:59 -0400
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