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Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk

From	Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Newsgroups	alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk
Date	2025-03-31 21:15 +1100
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On 31/03/2025 8:08 pm, Graham J wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> On Mon, 3/31/2025 4:23 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Graham J wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here in the UK PSTN was supposed to be shut down by the end of 
>>>> 2025.  I think it's been postponed.
>>>
>>> Now reprieved until end Jan 2027
>>
>> Let's hope the engineering of this change is first rate.
>>
>> Is the replacement scheme, organized in any way ???
>> Who is in charge ?
> 
> In the UK the telephone service is a nationalised entity called BT Group 
> PLC (was British Telecom) which owns Openreach, which in turn owns the 
> infrastructure, see:
> 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openreach>
> 
> Openreach sells the use of its copper pairs to ISPs (of which BT is one) 
> to carry broadband services.  These copper pairs run from the customer 
> premises to the exchange (or an intermediate cabinet for FTTC).  The 
> PSTN is analog over these lines, and is digital thereafter.  The 
> analog/copper part is old, unreliable, and high maintenance.  It is 
> completely unsuited to supporting a broadband service.  So Openreach 
> want rid of it.  Openreach makes some money from carrying phone calls, 
> and some from carrying broadband services.  The phone service is seen as 
> a Universal Service Obligation but there is no such requirement for 
> broadband.
> 
> Openreach and other entities are installing fibre.  There appears to be 
> no co-ordination or organisation in this: where a competing supplier 
> installs fibre Openreach rushes to catch up.  Some areas are well 
> served, others not at all.
> 
> NOBODY is in charge!
> 
Some time ago (10 years, maybe .... No, 16 years even, 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network ), the 
Australian Government proposed their 'National Broadband Network' (NBN) 
upgrade of the Fixed Telephone System .... Fibre to the Cabinet in the 
street, Wire to the Premises .... unless the Premises Owner wanted to 
pay the extra Bucks to get Fibre to the Building.

Note ... Properties in Outback Australia got Satellite systems as part 
of the upgrade.
-- 
Daniel70

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MS Shadow Copy service    thread has replies from me. === Windhowk  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 01:32 -0400
  Re: MS Shadow Copy service    thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-03-29 13:50 +0100
    Re: MS Shadow Copy service    thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 16:09 -0400
  Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 09:07 -0400
    Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 16:08 -0400
      Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 19:38 -0400
        Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 21:42 -0400
          Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 22:57 -0400
            Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 09:20 -0400
              Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 10:39 -0400
          Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-30 02:08 -0400
            Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 07:43 -0400
              Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 10:11 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 13:18 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 13:44 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-30 18:38 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 08:29 +0100
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-31 08:23 +0000
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 04:46 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 10:08 +0100
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-31 21:15 +1100
            Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 09:28 -0400
  Re: MS Shadow Copy service    thread has replies from me. === Windhowk  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 11:10 -0400

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