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Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk

From Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk
Date 2025-03-31 08:29 +0100
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Paul wrote:

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> 
> At least in one country, PSTN is to be shut down
> in two years. Who knows what safety features
> will exist then, for removing spam from the resulting
> phone network. It could be chaos. You might have to
> turn off your ringer :-) That's because Black Hats
> will be making IP calls. The system could still benefit
> from a little "administration". And a fly swatter.

Here in the UK PSTN was supposed to be shut down by the end of 2025.  I 
think it's been postponed.

One problem is that the VoIP which replaces it will still be carried 
over copper pairs.  This will continue to be either ADSL or VDSL rather 
than fibre for the foreseeable future (20+ years is my guess!), with 
consequent reliability problems.  Fibre is sometimes being installed for 
new customers but the rollout is quite patchy.

A second problem is that the internet connection - whether it be carried 
over copper or fibre - requires a terminator (modem or ONT) and router 
(sometimes integrated in one package) and these components require 
electrical power.  Belatedly, there are separate battery backup options 
only now being offered.  So there will be problems for users when there 
are power failures.  The UK doesn't suffer from significant earthquakes, 
but powerful storms do occur most winters and these bring down trees 
onto power lines.  The time to repair can be up to 10 days.  The same 
areas that suffer the most damage from storms are those where mobile 
service is thin or non-existent, so mobile phones are not a viable 
substitute.  Even their cell towers generally don't have battery backup 
- or if they do, they only support an outage of a few minutes.  We can 
expect power resilience to deteriorate as ageing infrastructure is not 
replaced (think Heathrow's problem last week) and there is increasing 
terrorist or military threat (think Putin & Trump).

A third problem is that many (particularly old) folk rely on "panic 
alarm" devices many of which don't work with VoIP and they are not aware 
that these will need to be replaced.

I've seen quite intelligent people be completely unable to connect a 
VoIP phone to a router and be able to make & receive phone calls - the 
support provided to ordinary non-technical users by the phone/internet 
suppliers is woefully inadequate.

But I don't think it will make much difference to the levels of spam. 
It's already a significant problem.



-- 
Graham J

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  Re: MS Shadow Copy service    thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Michael Logies <logies@t-online.de> - 2025-03-29 13:50 +0100
    Re: MS Shadow Copy service    thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 16:09 -0400
  Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 09:07 -0400
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      Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-29 19:38 -0400
        Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-29 21:42 -0400
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            Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 09:20 -0400
              Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 10:39 -0400
          Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-30 02:08 -0400
            Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 07:43 -0400
              Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 10:11 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-03-30 13:18 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-30 13:44 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-30 18:38 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 08:29 +0100
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-31 08:23 +0000
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-31 04:46 -0400
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-03-31 10:08 +0100
                Re: MS Shadow Copy service thread has replies from me. === Windhowk Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-31 21:15 +1100
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