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Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life

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On 1/13/25 8:09 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.pcmag.com/explainers/0patch-explained-how-it-works-and-what-it-means-for-the-end-of-windows
> 
> https://0patch.com/
> 
> "$28 per year per device for its Pro service".  To clarify this isn't
> free.  Also, only covers the most critical security patches, not all
> vulnerabilities.  The cost is trivial for a business scenario, but users
> will probably decide to let the security patches slide until they get
> their next prebuilt with whatever OS is preinstalled.
> 
> https://0patch.com/pricing.html
> 
> There is a free version, but that only works on a version of Windows
> while it is still supported by Microsoft.  Once Microsoft drops support
> for a version, this free version ceases to function, and you have to
> purchase it.
> 
> Also, unlike patches from Microsoft that replace files (and why
> sometimes a reboot is required to replace inuse system files), 0patch
> does not alter any files.  Instead if modifies the memory image of the
> executable files.  Everytime you boot, its agent has to let Windows
> load, and then modify the memory image.
> 
> "0patch does not replace executable files or modify them in any way. It
> corrects them only in memory, which can be done without relaunching
> them."
> 
> Hmm, I thought Windows had protections against such in-memory
> manipulation.  If their "agent" doesn't load, you're back to a pre-patch
> scenario.  It needs to phone home to check if there are new
> [micro]patches.  Also, since their agent modifies the memory image of
> executables, any backups you save will be on the files themselves, not
> on the modified in-memory image of them.  So, you won't be backing up a
> micropatched version of the OS, just the OS pre-memory alteration.  If
> you restore the OS from backups, you'll need their agent to redeploy the
> in-memory modifications.  I don't know how they handle when you restore
> to a prior state of the OS for which their later micropatches may not be
> appropriate.
> 
> Arcos Security is headquartered in Maribor, Slovenia, an EU and Nato
> member.  The contact page just lists e-mail addresses, but their company
> profile page also lists a phone number, and address.  From Google Maps'
> street view on the address, I couldn't see where was Arcos Security
> (Arco Varnost in Solvenian), but I couldn't see all the way around the
> building, and they may be renting an office and don't post a sign on the
> building.
> 
> https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/acros-security
> 
> Not much info there.  They state 1 to 10 employees, but I've found that
> count to be inaccurate.


If there is some reason blocking yo from upgrading
to W11, just get yourself a decent anti virus.  Not
McAfee or Norton.

I also do not know if 0patch would qualify W10 as
a supported OS under Payment Card Industry (PCI)
guideline.

And if you can or are just curious, download a Fedora
Live USB and see if it is worth the transition.  I
recommend KDE, MATE, and Xfce, but NOT gnome as it
is too weird.

https://fedoraproject.org/spins

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0patch for W10 end-of-life T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 17:42 -0800
  Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-13 22:09 -0600
    Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-13 21:53 -0800
      Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-14 01:56 -0600
        Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-14 06:48 -0500
          Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-14 11:36 -0600
        Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-15 09:36 -0800
    Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 04:06 -0700
      Re: 0patch for W10 end-of-life VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-14 12:08 -0600

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