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Re: 🐧:\>

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: 🐧:\>
Date 2024-12-21 14:05 +0100
Message-ID <d2ri3lx8h5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2024-12-21 13:21, CrudeSausage wrote:
> Le 2024-12-20 à 20:57, Paul a écrit :
>> On Fri, 12/20/2024 4:45 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>> Le 2024-12-20 à 15:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 08:33:53 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 20:13, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:04:50 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> winget comes to mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Winget, Nuget, Chocolatey, Scoop, Ninite ... Windows Store?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I miss any?
>>>>>
>>>>> Saying that the Windows Store is trying to copy Linux is actually
>>>>> ridiculous since Apple was the first to produce one.
>>>>
>>>> Linux pioneered integrated systemwide package management starting in 
>>>> about
>>>> 1994.
>>>
>>> That's not a store.
>>>
>>
>> The "Store Concept" is the dumbed down version of package management.
> 
> Clearly. However, you don't buy applications in Synaptic.
> 
>> The user is not supposed to understand or learn anything about
>> packages and dependencies, when pecking at the button in the Store.
>>
>> Doing a dumb version, is fine, if you can pull it off.
>> If, every time you click the button, a biscuit comes out,
>> then the user would "trust" the dumb method. If, like in
>> my demo test, the biscuit is not delivered and there
>> is no error message or even a hint of failure, the
>> dumb concept is a fail, because the customer is not
>> getting a "reward" for clicking the button. The
>> operant conditioning is going to be a fail.
>>
>> All this arguing about who invented the Store, it is
>> the Psychology department at my university that invented it.
>> At the entrance to the department, was a receptionist.
>> Next to the receptionist was a stack of chicken cages
>> with one chicken per cage. There are buttons to click,
>> and some sort of stimulus. The chicken figures out,
>> that if you click the "GIMP" button, a grain of food
>> will come down the chute. If the chicken is not
>> rewarded when the "GIMP" button is pressed, the
>> chicken has no incentive to click it the next time.
>>
>> I often wondered who did "maintenance" on the chickens,
>> because they were in excellent condition, none of them
>> seemed to be diseased or anything. But everything the
>> psych department did was like that. They would do the
>> most complicated things, to suit their religion
>> (B.F. Skinner-ism). They had probably conditioned
>> a grad student, to take care of the chickens
>> (you know, give the grad student electric shocks,
>> if the work was not done).
> 
> In 2024, why would it be necessary for a user to know that GIMP didn't 
> install because 13 obscure libraries couldn't be pulled from their 
> respective repositories? Why do Linux losers insist that everyone live 
> in the Stone Age?


As compared to DLL hell?

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:08 -0500
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      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:10 -0500
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:26 -0800
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Undecided User <spam-here@linux.org> - 2024-12-18 00:47 +0000
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-18 08:44 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 00:02 -0800
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-18 01:02 -0500
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:54 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 13:52 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 16:19 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:28 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 11:21 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 12:19 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 13:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-19 22:12 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:05 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:14 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 09:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:30 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-20 12:22 -0500
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                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:41 +0100
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                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 04:44 -0500
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                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 08:39 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:57 -0500
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                🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 00:16 +0000
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