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From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: 🐧:\>
Date 2024-12-20 20:57 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On Fri, 12/20/2024 4:45 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
> Le 2024-12-20 à 15:42, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 08:33:53 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Le 2024-12-19 à 20:13, Lawrence D'Oliveiro a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 20:04:50 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> winget comes to mind.
>>>>
>>>> Winget, Nuget, Chocolatey, Scoop, Ninite ... Windows Store?
>>>>
>>>> Did I miss any?
>>>
>>> Saying that the Windows Store is trying to copy Linux is actually
>>> ridiculous since Apple was the first to produce one.
>>
>> Linux pioneered integrated systemwide package management starting in about
>> 1994.
> 
> That's not a store.
> 

The "Store Concept" is the dumbed down version of package management.

The user is not supposed to understand or learn anything about
packages and dependencies, when pecking at the button in the Store.

Doing a dumb version, is fine, if you can pull it off.
If, every time you click the button, a biscuit comes out,
then the user would "trust" the dumb method. If, like in
my demo test, the biscuit is not delivered and there
is no error message or even a hint of failure, the
dumb concept is a fail, because the customer is not
getting a "reward" for clicking the button. The
operant conditioning is going to be a fail.

All this arguing about who invented the Store, it is
the Psychology department at my university that invented it.
At the entrance to the department, was a receptionist.
Next to the receptionist was a stack of chicken cages
with one chicken per cage. There are buttons to click,
and some sort of stimulus. The chicken figures out,
that if you click the "GIMP" button, a grain of food
will come down the chute. If the chicken is not
rewarded when the "GIMP" button is pressed, the
chicken has no incentive to click it the next time.

I often wondered who did "maintenance" on the chickens,
because they were in excellent condition, none of them
seemed to be diseased or anything. But everything the
psych department did was like that. They would do the
most complicated things, to suit their religion
(B.F. Skinner-ism). They had probably conditioned
a grad student, to take care of the chickens
(you know, give the grad student electric shocks,
if the work was not done).

   Paul

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  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-17 07:13 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update D <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2024-12-17 13:28 +0000
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 09:08 -0500
  Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-17 11:28 -0700
    Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-17 18:40 +0000
      Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-17 17:10 -0500
        Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 14:26 -0800
          Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Undecided User <spam-here@linux.org> - 2024-12-18 00:47 +0000
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 18:21 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-18 08:44 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:56 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 00:02 -0800
            Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-18 01:02 -0500
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-17 23:54 -0800
              Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-18 08:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 13:52 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-18 16:19 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-18 15:28 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 08:52 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-19 11:21 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 12:19 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 13:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-19 22:12 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-19 20:05 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:14 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 09:42 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:30 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-20 12:22 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 15:55 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-20 22:41 +0100
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 16:26 -0700
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 04:44 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-12-22 08:16 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 08:39 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-22 09:57 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-22 17:49 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 14:06 -0500
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 16:16 -0800
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-23 19:10 -0600
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-23 17:23 -0800
                🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 00:16 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-19 20:04 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 01:13 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-19 20:24 -0600
                Re: 🐧:\> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-20 03:19 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 20:36 -0700
                Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 08:04 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-20 10:52 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-20 07:24 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-20 08:41 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-20 20:42 +0000
                Re: 🐧:\> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-20 16:25 -0500
                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 00:35 +0000
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                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 07:08 +0000
                Re: I'm confused by today's Forbes article on Windows update Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-21 04:00 -0500
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                Re: 🐧:\> Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-21 00:34 +0000
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