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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 10:15 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:50 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 00:44 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-19 09:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 00:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:52 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-21 13:19 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:29 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 00:18 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:39 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-22 12:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:57 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-23 15:14 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Mitchell Holman <noemail@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:49 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 05:17 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 12:45 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 00:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-26 00:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:06 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:28 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-16 04:08 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 20:04 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:07 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-17 20:16 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 19:27 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-18 13:51 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:34 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 07:55 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-19 04:48 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-19 20:59 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-20 05:13 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-20 22:30 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. nature bats last <seqklogw@gmail.com> - 2015-08-20 09:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 04:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-21 19:58 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-21 17:31 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 07:47 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-22 03:40 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:19 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 03:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:20 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-23 17:00 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-24 23:49 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-24 20:26 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-26 08:02 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 03:43 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-27 00:44 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:23 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:37 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-18 00:51 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 16:58 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. "Alex W." <ingilt@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-15 15:17 +0100
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-16 10:31 +0800
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800 |
| Subject | Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. |
| Message-ID | <mqn36b$5ht$1@dont-email.me> |
On 2015-08-15 02:41 PM, Mike M wrote: > niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >> On 2015-08-15 03:16 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >>> On Fri, 14 Aug 2015 17:24:50 +0800, niunian <niunian@ymail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-08-13 10:53 PM, Alex W. wrote: >>>>> On 13/08/2015 13:30, niunian wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The fear of death can also be a purpose. It would be bowing down to the >>>>>> god of death which by definition, is the devil. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any more god head you can think of in your atheist life? >>>>> >>>>> WHy should death be evil? >>>> >>>> Because killing life is evil. >>> >>> yeah LOL you should have told that to your god, it has murdered more >>> people than small pox, oh wait it made small pox also, so it gets >>> credit for all of those, ok then it has killed more people than >>> hitler, oh wait according to you it made hitler so it gets credit for >>> all of those also, I guess you are just fucked >>> >>>> >>>>> It is a natural part of the cycle of life. Decay and death feeds new >>>>> growth. Death is *good*. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes. I guess the death in peace without suffering can be an exception. >>>> It can be considered the freedom of the soul from this physical existence. >>> >>> hell when your god kills it will torture the fuck out of people, >>> drowning, burning, disease... boy that sounds like a real stand up guy >>> that god of yours >>> >> >> Nope. None of anything you have said including what you mentioned from >> the Bible has anything to do with the God of living. The God of living >> only gives life. Only the force of evil and sometimes it is the force of >> nature would take life. God as the source and energy of all living things >> does not kill life. For God to kill life, it would mean God has killed >> himself. It's stupid to even imagine such thing. > > I'm trying to figure out whether your religion has anything to do with any > established ones, and failing. Certainly not Judaism, Christianity or Islam > - to name just three of the ones that embrace the notion that God erased > most of the life on Earth in a flood so he could start afresh ... > The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the place of the previous creation God.
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| From | talishi <talishi@example.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mqn4pp1c16@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #1960825 |
niunian wrote: > > The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God of > creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of Adam and > Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of living, the > giver of life who is always good. The second God is the God of sin who > is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same God. The sin has > introduced or manufactured another God in the place of the previous > creation God. It turns out the previous creation God was manufactured as well. Humans have manufactured at least 5,000 of them.
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| From | niunian <niunian@ymail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <mqn5c6$cgg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #1960831 |
On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > niunian wrote: >> >> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God >> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of >> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of >> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the >> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same >> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the >> place of the previous creation God. > > It turns out the previous creation God was manufactured as well. > Humans have manufactured at least 5,000 of them. Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up your mind.
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| From | talishi <talishi@example.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <mqnj5v02v2s@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #1960838 |
niunian wrote: > On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: >> niunian wrote: >>> >>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God >>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of >>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of >>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the >>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same >>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the >>> place of the previous creation God. >> >> It turns out the previous creation God was manufactured as well. >> Humans have manufactured at least 5,000 of them. > > Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > your mind. We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and went out trying to kill "Harkonnens".
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| From | gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mqnrhb$437$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #1960935 |
On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > niunian wrote: >> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: >>> niunian wrote: >>>> >>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God >>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of >>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of >>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the >>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same >>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the >>>> place of the previous creation God. >> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up >> your mind. > > We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". you don't "know" that. Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <t5jvsa5rj0llcorbgaf2gsv4uihl3m2hmk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1961019 |
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> wrote: >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: >> niunian wrote: >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: >>>> niunian wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the >>>>> place of the previous creation God. > > >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up >>> your mind. >> >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > >you don't "know" that. >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D0423E.777F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1961292 |
bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> > wrote: > > >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > >> niunian wrote: > >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > >>>> niunian wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > >>>>> place of the previous creation God. > > > > > >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > >>> your mind. > >> > >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > > > >you don't "know" that. > >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. > > well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but > atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. That's not true... 'the scientific community' who the majority are atheist.. read fairy tales and science fiction. (which are both fabricated fiction stories) How many times have the 'scientific community' used words from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. "This porridge is too cold," she said So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D044EE.32EA@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1961465 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> > > wrote: > > > > >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > > >> niunian wrote: > > >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > > >>>> niunian wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > > >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > > >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > > >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > > >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > > >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > > >>>>> place of the previous creation God. > > > > > > > > >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > > >>> your mind. > > >> > > >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > > >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > > >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > > >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > > > > > >you don't "know" that. > > >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. > > > > well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but > > atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. > > That's not true... > 'the scientific community' who > the majority are atheist.. > read fairy tales and science fiction. > (which are both fabricated fiction stories) > > How many times have the 'scientific community' used words > from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? > > 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. > > They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? > > "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. > > Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! > > The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in > other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... > there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. > > "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. > > So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. > > "This porridge is too cold," she said > > So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. > > "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," > > Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. .
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D0452E.1D7F@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1961477 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > > > >> niunian wrote: > > > >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > > > >>>> niunian wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > > > >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > > > >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > > > >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > > > >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > > > >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > > > >>>>> place of the previous creation God. > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > > > >>> your mind. > > > >> > > > >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > > > >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > > > >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > > > >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > > > > > > > >you don't "know" that. > > > >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. > > > > > > well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but > > > atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. > > > > That's not true... > > 'the scientific community' who > > the majority are atheist.. > > read fairy tales and science fiction. > > (which are both fabricated fiction stories) > > > > How many times have the 'scientific community' used words > > from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? > > > > 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. > > > > They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? > > > > "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. > > > > Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! > > > > The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in > > other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... > > there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. > > > > "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. > > > > So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. > > > > "This porridge is too cold," she said > > > > So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. > > > > "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," > > > > Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. > > . .
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D0FB67.56A1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1961480 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > > > > >> niunian wrote: > > > > >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > > > > >>>> niunian wrote: > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > > > > >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > > > > >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > > > > >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > > > > >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > > > > >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > > > > >>>>> place of the previous creation God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > > > > >>> your mind. > > > > >> > > > > >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > > > > >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > > > > >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > > > > >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > > > > > > > > > >you don't "know" that. > > > > >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. > > > > > > > > well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but > > > > atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. > > > > > > That's not true... > > > 'the scientific community' who > > > the majority are atheist.. > > > read fairy tales and science fiction. > > > (which are both fabricated fiction stories) > > > > > > How many times have the 'scientific community' used words > > > from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? > > > > > > 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. > > > > > > They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? > > > > > > "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. > > > > > > Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! > > > > > > The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in > > > other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... > > > there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. > > > > > > "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. > > > > > > So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. > > > > > > "This porridge is too cold," she said > > > > > > So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. > > > > > > "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," > > > > > > Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. In other words... Martians are just a fabricated being created by science fiction fairy tales. It's fantasty. There are no Martians, ....only Atheist believe in Martians. God created only one Earth....with earthlings. People from other planets are just...fairy tales. Wasn't it H.G. Wells the one who invented the word ...Martians???? Adult fairy tales.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400 |
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| In reply to | #1961930 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 14:06:47 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55D0FB67.56A1@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >In other words... > >Martians are just a fabricated being created by science fiction fairy tales. It's fantasty. Probably. > >There are no Martians, ....only Atheist believe in Martians. Belief is irrelevant. We know enough about Mars to preclude any advanced life being there. > >God created only one Earth....with earthlings. What evidence supports that? > >People from other planets are just...fairy tales. It's a big universe, and there are a lot of planets out there. There is no way you can assert that with any kind of supporting evidence. It's even a poor opinion. > > >Wasn't it H.G. Wells the one who invented the word ...Martians???? It was used by several sources, including fiction, long before Wells. > > >Adult fairy tales. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2323A.68C1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1961930 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > > > > > >> niunian wrote: > > > > > >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > > > > > >>>> niunian wrote: > > > > > >>>>> > > > > > >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > > > > > >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > > > > > >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > > > > > >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > > > > > >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > > > > > >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > > > > > >>>>> place of the previous creation God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > > > > > >>> your mind. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > > > > > >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > > > > > >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > > > > > >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > > > > > > > > > > > >you don't "know" that. > > > > > >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. > > > > > > > > > > well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but > > > > > atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. > > > > > > > > That's not true... > > > > 'the scientific community' who > > > > the majority are atheist.. > > > > read fairy tales and science fiction. > > > > (which are both fabricated fiction stories) > > > > > > > > How many times have the 'scientific community' used words > > > > from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? > > > > > > > > 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. > > > > > > > > They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? > > > > > > > > "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. > > > > > > > > Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! > > > > > > > > The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in > > > > other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... > > > > there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. > > > > > > > > "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. > > > > > > > > So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. > > > > > > > > "This porridge is too cold," she said > > > > > > > > So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. > > > > > > > > "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," > > > > > > > > Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. > > In other words... > > Martians are just a fabricated being created by science fiction fairy tales. It's fantasty. > > There are no Martians, ....only Atheist believe in Martians. > > God created only one Earth....with earthlings. > > People from other planets are just...fairy tales. > > Wasn't it H.G. Wells the one who invented the word ...Martians???? > > Adult fairy tales. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/08/15/apollo-14-astronaut-claims-peace-loving-aliens-prevented-nuclear-war-on-earth/ astro-nuts.
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| From | bilgat@m.nu |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <tsi0tat3q0411qe3clk0lel5ol8i4g43v9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #1961465 |
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> >> wrote: >> >> >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: >> >> niunian wrote: >> >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: >> >>>> niunian wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God >> >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of >> >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of >> >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the >> >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same >> >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the >> >>>>> place of the previous creation God. >> > >> > >> >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up >> >>> your mind. >> >> >> >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and >> >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as >> >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and >> >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". >> > >> >you don't "know" that. >> >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. >> >> well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but >> atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. > >That's not true... >'the scientific community' who >the majority are atheist.. >read fairy tales and science fiction. >(which are both fabricated fiction stories) > >How many times have the 'scientific community' used words >from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? > >'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. > >They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? > >"flying saucers"? just fairy tales. > >Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! > > >The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in >other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... >there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. > > "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. > >So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. > >"This porridge is too cold," she said > >So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. > >"Ahhh, this porridge is just right," > > > > >Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. no response even needed
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D16228.19ED@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1961492 |
bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> >bilgat@m.nu wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote:
> >> >> niunian wrote:
> >> >>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote:
> >> >>>> niunian wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God
> >> >>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of
> >> >>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of
> >> >>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the
> >> >>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same
> >> >>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the
> >> >>>>> place of the previous creation God.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up
> >> >>> your mind.
> >> >>
> >> >> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and
> >> >> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as
> >> >> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and
> >> >> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens".
> >> >
> >> >you don't "know" that.
> >> >Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists.
> >>
> >> well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but
> >> atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do.
> >
> >That's not true...
> >'the scientific community' who
> >the majority are atheist..
> >read fairy tales and science fiction.
> >(which are both fabricated fiction stories)
> >
> >How many times have the 'scientific community' used words
> >from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales?
> >
> >'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales.
> >
> >They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from?
> >
> >"flying saucers"? just fairy tales.
> >
> >Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them!
> >
> >
> >The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in
> >other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read...
> >there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets.
> >
> > "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed.
> >
> >So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl.
> >
> >"This porridge is too cold," she said
> >
> >So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge.
> >
> >"Ahhh, this porridge is just right,"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale.
>
> no response even needed
There are atheist members in the 'scienticic community' who don't believe in God but believe in...flying saucers.
Is there a name for that insanity?
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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ByfAx.57510$Hl3.7997@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #1961492 |
On 08/16/2015 04:37 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote:
>>>>> niunian wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote:
>>>>>>> niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God
>>>>>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of
>>>>>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of
>>>>>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the
>>>>>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same
>>>>>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the
>>>>>>>> place of the previous creation God.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up
>>>>>> your mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and
>>>>> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as
>>>>> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and
>>>>> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens".
>>>>
>>>> you don't "know" that.
>>>> Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists.
>>>
>>> well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but
>>> atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do.
>>
>> That's not true...
>> 'the scientific community' who
>> the majority are atheist..
>> read fairy tales and science fiction.
>> (which are both fabricated fiction stories)
>>
>> How many times have the 'scientific community' used words
>>from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales?
>>
>> 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales.
>>
>> They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from?
>>
>> "flying saucers"? just fairy tales.
>>
>> Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them!
>>
>>
>> The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in
>> other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read...
>> there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets.
>>
>> "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed.
>>
>> So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl.
>>
>> "This porridge is too cold," she said
>>
>> So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge.
>>
>> "Ahhh, this porridge is just right,"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale.
>
>
> no response even needed.
While usually when starfaker is pretending to talk science but is
babbling on in his lib ignorance, no response is even needed, but in
this case it is instructive to respond and explain.
While this is not really necessary, it's easy to prove Starfaker a
moron. Simply take his statement "there are no Martians.... never was".
(And Starfaker you ignorant Lib an elipsis consists of three not four
periods and has a space at the beginning. Sheesh. I hope you never try
to make me a "star".)
So just HOW does he know this? Clearly, the only way he can know this
(which amazingly includes all other dimensions and things we haven't
even thought or discovered yet AS WELL AS the entire history of the
planet Mars) is to use his superpowers to "remote view" it all to give
us this assurance. Nuff said. He'd save bandwidth by simply using the
"short form" = "I'm a moron!"
So does the scientific community believe life exists on other planets?
Well being scientists and not media whores, They say something like:
What do you mean by "life" and what do you mean by planet? By "life" do
you mean humanoids like us, or some kind of low bacteria. When NASA
talks about finding "life on other planets" (Like Mars) They are ALWAYS
talking about bacteria. And often (but not always) talking about some
planet orbiting some other star than our own. In other words some
speculation about what is going on on the other side of the universe
which like all cosmology, without "remote viewing", we can never
directly observe.
But this is because Humanoid life other than our own is a political
topic now just as it was in the days when the Catholic Church ran
everything. In science it is a "forbidden topic". A paper about it no
matter how well documented will NEVER be published in a major journal
and your career will speedily head for termination or stagnation at
best. Everybody knows this.
What isn't so widely considered is WHY. And the reason is a huge
government cover-up on the subject of UFOs that has been going one since
WWII at least. Don't believe it? It's all documented HERE:
http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Chronology/dp/1571743170/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1439792858&sr=8-3&keywords=Richard+M%2F+Dolan
in yawn inducing gruesome detail. As usual proof that there is a
cover-up is FAR easier than proving what the cover-up is about. So we'll
leave the question of the UFO occupants for lack of proof. But The fact
that the cover-up has gone on for so long explains why the topic is
"forbidden".
And this leaves us with one final question: Should scientist believe in
the existence of humanoid life somewhere in the universe (Note planet
here includes those around ANY stars not just our own) The answer based
upon probability alone has to be YES. Why? Because of the vast NUMBER of
even galaxies let alone stars. No thinking scientist or even
self-respecting atheist can DENY the enormously high probability that
there are doubtless MANY other situations out there similar enough to or
own as to make such an event as formation of similar life virtually
beyond doubt! Only the ego of the Lib factions of humanity have the ego
to think they they are so special, physics quit and broke the mold after
they were formed. The probably of humanoid life on other planets, even
humanoid life far more advanced than our own, is FAR more likely than
the statistics supporting the idea that we "evolved" from lower animals,
apes in particular.
The bottom line is that other humanoid life in the universe is virtually
beyond doubt to anyone with even a modest knowledge of science and math.
It is clear that government and it's handmaiden the media, has been
spoon feeding (and sometimes force feeding) the "bacteria story" to
everyone as a cover-up of credible UFO phenomena being observed
everywhere over a great many years. It's all as simple as this.
I now turn you back to all the strategic writers (part of the cover-up)
who will all scream "kook" and "insane" as if it were some kind of
scientific proof of something. Note that like Starfaker, they are all
"writers" and know nothing of science. Their main areas of expertise
being lies and fantasy.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D2C0DE.4CE8@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1962353 |
benj wrote: > > On 08/16/2015 04:37 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > > >> bilgat@m.nu wrote: > >>> > >>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: > >>>>> niunian wrote: > >>>>>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: > >>>>>>> niunian wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God > >>>>>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of > >>>>>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of > >>>>>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the > >>>>>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same > >>>>>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the > >>>>>>>> place of the previous creation God. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up > >>>>>> your mind. > >>>>> > >>>>> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and > >>>>> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as > >>>>> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and > >>>>> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". > >>>> > >>>> you don't "know" that. > >>>> Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. > >>> > >>> well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but > >>> atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. > >> > >> That's not true... > >> 'the scientific community' who > >> the majority are atheist.. > >> read fairy tales and science fiction. > >> (which are both fabricated fiction stories) > >> > >> How many times have the 'scientific community' used words > >>from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? > >> > >> 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. > >> > >> They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? > >> > >> "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. > >> > >> Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! > >> > >> > >> The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in > >> other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... > >> there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. > >> > >> "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. > >> > >> So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. > >> > >> "This porridge is too cold," she said > >> > >> So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. > >> > >> "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. > > > > > > no response even needed. > > While usually when starfaker is pretending to talk science but is > babbling on in his lib ignorance, no response is even needed, but in > this case it is instructive to respond and explain. > > While this is not really necessary, it's easy to prove Starfaker a > moron. Simply take his statement "there are no Martians.... never was". > > (And Starfaker you ignorant Lib an elipsis consists of three not four > periods and has a space at the beginning. Sheesh. I hope you never try > to make me a "star".) > > So just HOW does he know this? Clearly, the only way he can know this > (which amazingly includes all other dimensions and things we haven't > even thought or discovered yet AS WELL AS the entire history of the > planet Mars) is to use his superpowers to "remote view" it all to give > us this assurance. Nuff said. He'd save bandwidth by simply using the > "short form" = "I'm a moron!" > > So does the scientific community believe life exists on other planets? > Well being scientists and not media whores, They say something like: > What do you mean by "life" and what do you mean by planet? By "life" do > you mean humanoids like us, or some kind of low bacteria. When NASA > talks about finding "life on other planets" (Like Mars) They are ALWAYS > talking about bacteria. NASA would NEVER say, "We are not looking for life, we're looking for bacteria!" Because nobody would give them a penny. > And often (but not always) talking about some > planet orbiting some other star than our own. In other words some > speculation about what is going on on the other side of the universe > which like all cosmology, without "remote viewing", we can never > directly observe. What is all this talk about "remote viewing"? Is it Shirley Maclaine week???? > > But this is because Humanoid life other than our own is a political > topic now just as it was in the days when the Catholic Church ran > everything. In science it is a "forbidden topic". A paper about it no > matter how well documented will NEVER be published in a major journal > and your career will speedily head for termination or stagnation at > best. Everybody knows this. > > What isn't so widely considered is WHY. And the reason is a huge > government cover-up on the subject of UFOs that has been going one since > WWII at least. Don't believe it? It's all documented HERE: > > http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Chronology/dp/1571743170/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1439792858&sr=8-3&keywords=Richard+M%2F+Dolan Documented on Amazon??? a book store? 2 cents for the book, $5.00 for shipping? Why is there only one seeder? https://thepiratebay.la/torrent/7619400/UFOs_and_the_National_Security_State_-_Cover-Up_-_2_Volumes_MOBI Why would you point to a link to a book out of a billion seeders, there is only one seeder??? If it is not worth downloading for free, it's not worth buying. You need to remote view torrents before you remove view amazon. > > in yawn inducing gruesome detail. As usual proof that there is a > cover-up is FAR easier than proving what the cover-up is about. So we'll > leave the question of the UFO occupants for lack of proof. But The fact > that the cover-up has gone on for so long explains why the topic is > "forbidden". > > And this leaves us with one final question: Should scientist believe in > the existence of humanoid life somewhere in the universe (Note planet > here includes those around ANY stars not just our own) The answer based > upon probability alone has to be YES. Why? Because of the vast NUMBER of > even galaxies let alone stars. No thinking scientist or even > self-respecting atheist can DENY the enormously high probability that > there are doubtless MANY other situations out there similar enough to or > own as to make such an event as formation of similar life virtually > beyond doubt! Only the ego of the Lib factions of humanity have the ego > to think they they are so special, physics quit and broke the mold after > they were formed. The probably of humanoid life on other planets, even > humanoid life far more advanced than our own, is FAR more likely than > the statistics supporting the idea that we "evolved" from lower animals, > apes in particular. > > The bottom line is that other humanoid life in the universe is virtually > beyond doubt to anyone with even a modest knowledge of science and math. > It is clear that government and it's handmaiden the media, has been > spoon feeding (and sometimes force feeding) the "bacteria story" to > everyone as a cover-up of credible UFO phenomena being observed > everywhere over a great many years. It's all as simple as this. > > I now turn you back to all the strategic writers (part of the cover-up) > who will all scream "kook" and "insane" as if it were some kind of > scientific proof of something. Note that like Starfaker, they are all > "writers" and know nothing of science. Their main areas of expertise > being lies and fantasy. Point to one lie you believe I made? I mean just ...one. And just in case yous don't know the meaning of...one, it's half of two. > > -- > ___ ___ ___ ___ > /\ \ /\ \ /\__\ /\ \ > /::\ \ /::\ \ /::| | \:\ \ > /:/\:\ \ /:/\:\ \ /:|:| | ___ /::\__\ > /::\~\:\__\ /::\~\:\ \ /:/|:| |__ /\ /:/\/__/ > /:/\:\ \:|__| /:/\:\ \:\__\ /:/ |:| /\__\ \:\/:/ / > \:\~\:\/:/ / \:\~\:\ \/__/ \/__|:|/:/ / \::/ / > \:\ \::/ / \:\ \:\__\ |:/:/ / \/__/ > \:\/:/ / \:\ \/__/ |::/ / > \_:/__/ \:\__\ /:/ / > \/__/ \/__/ and there is nothing to...cover-up.
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| Date | 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500 |
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 22:21:34 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >benj wrote: >> >> On 08/16/2015 04:37 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker >> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> > >> >> bilgat@m.nu wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote: >> >>>>> niunian wrote: >> >>>>>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote: >> >>>>>>> niunian wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God >> >>>>>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of >> >>>>>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of >> >>>>>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the >> >>>>>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same >> >>>>>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the >> >>>>>>>> place of the previous creation God. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up >> >>>>>> your mind. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and >> >>>>> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as >> >>>>> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and >> >>>>> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens". >> >>>> >> >>>> you don't "know" that. >> >>>> Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists. >> >>> >> >>> well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but >> >>> atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do. >> >> >> >> That's not true... >> >> 'the scientific community' who >> >> the majority are atheist.. >> >> read fairy tales and science fiction. >> >> (which are both fabricated fiction stories) >> >> >> >> How many times have the 'scientific community' used words >> >>from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales? >> >> >> >> 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales. >> >> >> >> They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from? >> >> >> >> "flying saucers"? just fairy tales. >> >> >> >> Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them! >> >> >> >> >> >> The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in >> >> other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read... >> >> there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets. >> >> >> >> "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed. >> >> >> >> So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl. >> >> >> >> "This porridge is too cold," she said >> >> >> >> So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge. >> >> >> >> "Ahhh, this porridge is just right," >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. >> > >> > >> > no response even needed. >> >> While usually when starfaker is pretending to talk science but is >> babbling on in his lib ignorance, no response is even needed, but in >> this case it is instructive to respond and explain. >> >> While this is not really necessary, it's easy to prove Starfaker a >> moron. Simply take his statement "there are no Martians.... never was". >> >> (And Starfaker you ignorant Lib an elipsis consists of three not four >> periods and has a space at the beginning. Sheesh. I hope you never try >> to make me a "star".) >> >> So just HOW does he know this? Clearly, the only way he can know this >> (which amazingly includes all other dimensions and things we haven't >> even thought or discovered yet AS WELL AS the entire history of the >> planet Mars) is to use his superpowers to "remote view" it all to give >> us this assurance. Nuff said. He'd save bandwidth by simply using the >> "short form" = "I'm a moron!" >> >> So does the scientific community believe life exists on other planets? >> Well being scientists and not media whores, They say something like: >> What do you mean by "life" and what do you mean by planet? By "life" do >> you mean humanoids like us, or some kind of low bacteria. When NASA >> talks about finding "life on other planets" (Like Mars) They are ALWAYS >> talking about bacteria. > >NASA would NEVER say, "We are not looking for life, we're looking for bacteria!" > > >Because nobody would give them a penny. Actually nasa says it everyday. Every freakin day they run a test on curiousioty to test for life on mars, You fucking moron
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| Date | 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400 |
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On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55D0423E.777F@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. You are probably correct, but it's a big universe and there are a lot of planets out there. -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-17 18:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <55D28EAE.2A30@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #1962395 |
Attila < wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id > <55D0423E.777F@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. > > You are probably correct, but it's a big universe and there are a lot > of planets out there. There are not a lot of planets out there...there is only Earth. All the rest of the stuff out there is just...props.
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| From | Attila <<prochoice@here.now> |
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| Date | 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <5mn5tap5rscac95v6bkpfhoebdihfeh7bt@4ax.com> |
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:47:26 -0700, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id <55D28EAE.2A30@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Attila < wrote: >> >> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker >> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> in alt.atheism with message-id >> <55D0423E.777F@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >> >> >Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale. >> >> You are probably correct, but it's a big universe and there are a lot >> of planets out there. > > >There are not a lot of planets out there...there is only Earth. All the rest of the stuff out there is just...props. Highly unlikely, and you nave no evidence at all that is true. Why would you think life only exists on this one planet? -- Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting and abhorrent. Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying, especially those proposed by His Imperial Majesty Emperor Ass. Any day now I expect some liberal to demand a government guaranteed above average income for every person. Every illegal alien is a criminal. No amnesty or work permit under any name or for any reason. Deportation upon identification as the only option. If you must text and drive please kill yourself quickly before you run into me.
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