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| From | benj <nobody@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.science.fiction |
| Subject | Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. |
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| Message-ID | <ByfAx.57510$Hl3.7997@fx24.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | TeraNews.com |
| Date | 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400 |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
On 08/16/2015 04:37 AM, bilgat@m.nu wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 00:56:46 -0700, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>> bilgat@m.nu wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 12:05:31 -0500, gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8/15/2015 9:43 AM, talishi wrote:
>>>>> niunian wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-08-15 06:36 PM, talishi wrote:
>>>>>>> niunian wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Old Testament has at least two Gods. The first God is the God
>>>>>>>> of creation who is the God of Eden. The second God is the God of
>>>>>>>> Adam and Eve after they have sinned. The first God is the God of
>>>>>>>> living, the giver of life who is always good. The second God is the
>>>>>>>> God of sin who is always vengeful and evil. They are not the same
>>>>>>>> God. The sin has introduced or manufactured another God in the
>>>>>>>> place of the previous creation God.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Are we talking about philosophy or are we talking about science? Make up
>>>>>> your mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> We are talking about a unique form of literature that historically (and
>>>>> even in the present day) translated to terrible physical action such as
>>>>> war and beheadings. Certainly no one ever took "Dune" as scripture and
>>>>> went out trying to kill "Harkonnens".
>>>>
>>>> you don't "know" that.
>>>> Lots of people believe in "Dune" especially Atheists.
>>>
>>> well as an atheist I can tell you that it was a damn good book, but
>>> atheists dont believe in fairy tale books like theists do.
>>
>> That's not true...
>> 'the scientific community' who
>> the majority are atheist..
>> read fairy tales and science fiction.
>> (which are both fabricated fiction stories)
>>
>> How many times have the 'scientific community' used words
>>from "Goldilocks" fairy tales, or H.G. Wells tales?
>>
>> 'the scientific community' live and breathe fairy tales.
>>
>> They believe that life exist on other planets. Where did they get that idea from?
>>
>> "flying saucers"? just fairy tales.
>>
>> Life on Mars?? They won't quit until you shoot them!
>>
>>
>> The only reason the 'scientific community' believes in life in
>> other planets is because of those science fiction fairy tales they read...
>> there is no other logical reason to believe in life on other planets.
>>
>> "This porridge is too hot!" she exclaimed.
>>
>> So, she tasted the porridge from the second bowl.
>>
>> "This porridge is too cold," she said
>>
>> So, she tasted the last bowl of porridge.
>>
>> "Ahhh, this porridge is just right,"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Okay, I'm going to break the atheist bubble....there are no Martians....never was. It's just a fairy tale.
>
>
> no response even needed.
While usually when starfaker is pretending to talk science but is
babbling on in his lib ignorance, no response is even needed, but in
this case it is instructive to respond and explain.
While this is not really necessary, it's easy to prove Starfaker a
moron. Simply take his statement "there are no Martians.... never was".
(And Starfaker you ignorant Lib an elipsis consists of three not four
periods and has a space at the beginning. Sheesh. I hope you never try
to make me a "star".)
So just HOW does he know this? Clearly, the only way he can know this
(which amazingly includes all other dimensions and things we haven't
even thought or discovered yet AS WELL AS the entire history of the
planet Mars) is to use his superpowers to "remote view" it all to give
us this assurance. Nuff said. He'd save bandwidth by simply using the
"short form" = "I'm a moron!"
So does the scientific community believe life exists on other planets?
Well being scientists and not media whores, They say something like:
What do you mean by "life" and what do you mean by planet? By "life" do
you mean humanoids like us, or some kind of low bacteria. When NASA
talks about finding "life on other planets" (Like Mars) They are ALWAYS
talking about bacteria. And often (but not always) talking about some
planet orbiting some other star than our own. In other words some
speculation about what is going on on the other side of the universe
which like all cosmology, without "remote viewing", we can never
directly observe.
But this is because Humanoid life other than our own is a political
topic now just as it was in the days when the Catholic Church ran
everything. In science it is a "forbidden topic". A paper about it no
matter how well documented will NEVER be published in a major journal
and your career will speedily head for termination or stagnation at
best. Everybody knows this.
What isn't so widely considered is WHY. And the reason is a huge
government cover-up on the subject of UFOs that has been going one since
WWII at least. Don't believe it? It's all documented HERE:
http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-National-Security-State-Chronology/dp/1571743170/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1439792858&sr=8-3&keywords=Richard+M%2F+Dolan
in yawn inducing gruesome detail. As usual proof that there is a
cover-up is FAR easier than proving what the cover-up is about. So we'll
leave the question of the UFO occupants for lack of proof. But The fact
that the cover-up has gone on for so long explains why the topic is
"forbidden".
And this leaves us with one final question: Should scientist believe in
the existence of humanoid life somewhere in the universe (Note planet
here includes those around ANY stars not just our own) The answer based
upon probability alone has to be YES. Why? Because of the vast NUMBER of
even galaxies let alone stars. No thinking scientist or even
self-respecting atheist can DENY the enormously high probability that
there are doubtless MANY other situations out there similar enough to or
own as to make such an event as formation of similar life virtually
beyond doubt! Only the ego of the Lib factions of humanity have the ego
to think they they are so special, physics quit and broke the mold after
they were formed. The probably of humanoid life on other planets, even
humanoid life far more advanced than our own, is FAR more likely than
the statistics supporting the idea that we "evolved" from lower animals,
apes in particular.
The bottom line is that other humanoid life in the universe is virtually
beyond doubt to anyone with even a modest knowledge of science and math.
It is clear that government and it's handmaiden the media, has been
spoon feeding (and sometimes force feeding) the "bacteria story" to
everyone as a cover-up of credible UFO phenomena being observed
everywhere over a great many years. It's all as simple as this.
I now turn you back to all the strategic writers (part of the cover-up)
who will all scream "kook" and "insane" as if it were some kind of
scientific proof of something. Note that like Starfaker, they are all
"writers" and know nothing of science. Their main areas of expertise
being lies and fantasy.
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 16:11 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 03:36 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. niunian <niunian@ymail.com> - 2015-08-15 18:48 +0800
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. talishi <talishi@example.net> - 2015-08-15 07:43 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-15 12:05 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-15 18:36 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 00:56 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:08 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 01:09 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 14:06 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 06:04 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 12:12 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-16 03:37 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-16 21:25 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-17 02:54 -0400
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-17 22:21 -0700
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. bilgat@m.nu - 2015-08-18 14:23 -0500
Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-17 05:58 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-18 03:30 -0400
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-08-24 22:32 -0700
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Re: Atheism is based on beliefs, not science. Attila <<prochoice@here.now> - 2015-08-26 16:46 -0400
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