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Re: Where is the center of the universe?

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From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.astronomy, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Where is the center of the universe?
Date Thu, 26 Nov 2015 14:27:53 -0800
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > > >> The Starmaker amok-crossposted:
> > > >> > And Einstein already proved there is no PointedEars.
> > > >> In your dreams.
> > > >
> > > > From what I know...
> > > > It is written, that the people with PointedEars
> > > > are from the planet Vulcan.
> > >
> > > That would be _pointed ears_, and they could as well be from Barradas â…¢,
> > > Romulus, and a number of other Vulcan/Romulan/Debrune colonies ;-)
> > >
> > > > Einstein proved that the planet Vulcan doesn't exist.
> > >
> > > No, he did not.  He could not.  The fact aside that Einstein has concerned
> > > himself with far more important things at the time, like world peace and a
> > > unified theory without quantum mechanics, Star Trek and the idea of the
> > > planet Vulcan (1964) was not even conceived when Einstein lived (1879–1955).
> > >
> > > > That means there is no PointedEars.
> > >
> > > Ex falso quodlibet.
> > >
> > > PointedEars
> > > --
> > > Q: What happens when electrons lose their energy?
> > > A: They get Bohr'ed.
> > >
> > > (from: WolframAlpha)
> >
> > For a guy with PointedEars, you don't know much about your
> > planet...Vulcan:
> >
> > "Einstein, Destroyer of Worlds"
> >
> > Einstein went one better. With his pen he destroyed a planet, Vulcan,
> > and simultaneously “reimagined the cosmos.”
> >
> > Although general relativity encompasses the entire universe, Einstein in
> > 1915 decided to highlight its effects on the planet Mercury for a few
> > reasons, Mr. Levenson notes. General relativity predicts that massive
> > objects warp the space around them. The larger the object, the more
> > warping that occurs. And Mercury, the closest planet to the sun, would
> > therefore feel the effects of general relativity far more than other
> > planets.
> >
> > Equally important, Mr. Levenson writes, “Einstein had a perfectly fine
> > grasp of . . . intellectual combat,” and knew he needed to make a splash
> > to win people’s attention. Solving the mystery of Mercury’s
> > orbit—something Newton’s revered theory couldn’t do—would produce an
> > intellectual tsunami.
> >
> > So Einstein sat down to calculate, and watched as the correct orbit
> > popped right out of his equations—like “magic,” he said. Far from
> > playing it cool, Einstein felt his heart shudder at the sight, and said
> > that something “snapped” inside him. A friend later speculated that
> > resolving Mercury’s orbit was the most intense emotional experience of
> > Einstein’s scientific life, maybe even his entire life. As Mr. Levenson
> > writes, “It had been said of Le Verrier that he discovered a planet
> > [Neptune] at the tip of his pen.” Einstein went one better. With his pen
> > he destroyed a planet, Vulcan, and simultaneously “reimagined the
> > cosmos.”
> >
> > Throughout the book, Mr. Levenson seems intent on using Vulcan to make
> > grand pronouncements about science and the human condition. The planet
> > exposes “the human capacity to both discover and self-deceive.” It
> > provides “an object lesson in how easy it is to see what ought to be
> > rather than what is.” And so on. More aptly, he uses Vulcan to draw
> > several thought-provoking parallels to modern science. Just like with
> > Vulcan, physicists spent decades talking about the Higgs boson based on
> > the seeming “necessity” of it—the fact that modern theories said these
> > bosons must exist, even if no one had ever seen them. The Higgs
> > eventually proved real, but what about superstrings or cosmic inflation
> > or gravitational waves? We might not be as far removed from the foibles
> > of Vulcan-hunters as we think.
> 
> And when he delivered a talk detailing his calculations at the Prussian Academy of Sciences on Nov. 18, 1915 in Berlin, his “pen destroyed Vulcan
> 
>  THE HUNT FOR VULCAN:
> 
> . . . And How Albert Einstein Destroyed a Planet, Discovered Relativity, and Deciphered the Universe
> 
> By Thomas Levenson
> 
> How Albert Einstein Destroyed The Planet...Vulcan.
> 
> He also almost destroyed the earth:
> http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html
> 


Scientific American eventually banned all new stories about Vulcan
“discoveries” in its pages.


i guess there is too muck kooks in the 'scientific community'...isn't
there? wat is a kook to do? discover global warming? banned those too!


ban all those kooks, and wat have you left? a bunch of turkeys...

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