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Re: Where is the center of the universe?

From The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Newsgroups alt.astronomy, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity, rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Where is the center of the universe?
Date 2015-11-26 14:22 -0800
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Message-ID <56578624.7777@ix.netcom.com> (permalink)
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The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
> > >> The Starmaker amok-crossposted:
> > >> > And Einstein already proved there is no PointedEars.
> > >> In your dreams.
> > >
> > > From what I know...
> > > It is written, that the people with PointedEars
> > > are from the planet Vulcan.
> >
> > That would be _pointed ears_, and they could as well be from Barradas â…¢,
> > Romulus, and a number of other Vulcan/Romulan/Debrune colonies ;-)
> >
> > > Einstein proved that the planet Vulcan doesn't exist.
> >
> > No, he did not.  He could not.  The fact aside that Einstein has concerned
> > himself with far more important things at the time, like world peace and a
> > unified theory without quantum mechanics, Star Trek and the idea of the
> > planet Vulcan (1964) was not even conceived when Einstein lived (1879–1955).
> >
> > > That means there is no PointedEars.
> >
> > Ex falso quodlibet.
> >
> > PointedEars
> > --
> > Q: What happens when electrons lose their energy?
> > A: They get Bohr'ed.
> >
> > (from: WolframAlpha)
> 
> For a guy with PointedEars, you don't know much about your
> planet...Vulcan:
> 
> "Einstein, Destroyer of Worlds"
> 
> Einstein went one better. With his pen he destroyed a planet, Vulcan,
> and simultaneously “reimagined the cosmos.”
> 
> Although general relativity encompasses the entire universe, Einstein in
> 1915 decided to highlight its effects on the planet Mercury for a few
> reasons, Mr. Levenson notes. General relativity predicts that massive
> objects warp the space around them. The larger the object, the more
> warping that occurs. And Mercury, the closest planet to the sun, would
> therefore feel the effects of general relativity far more than other
> planets.
> 
> Equally important, Mr. Levenson writes, “Einstein had a perfectly fine
> grasp of . . . intellectual combat,” and knew he needed to make a splash
> to win people’s attention. Solving the mystery of Mercury’s
> orbit—something Newton’s revered theory couldn’t do—would produce an
> intellectual tsunami.
> 
> So Einstein sat down to calculate, and watched as the correct orbit
> popped right out of his equations—like “magic,” he said. Far from
> playing it cool, Einstein felt his heart shudder at the sight, and said
> that something “snapped” inside him. A friend later speculated that
> resolving Mercury’s orbit was the most intense emotional experience of
> Einstein’s scientific life, maybe even his entire life. As Mr. Levenson
> writes, “It had been said of Le Verrier that he discovered a planet
> [Neptune] at the tip of his pen.” Einstein went one better. With his pen
> he destroyed a planet, Vulcan, and simultaneously “reimagined the
> cosmos.”
> 
> Throughout the book, Mr. Levenson seems intent on using Vulcan to make
> grand pronouncements about science and the human condition. The planet
> exposes “the human capacity to both discover and self-deceive.” It
> provides “an object lesson in how easy it is to see what ought to be
> rather than what is.” And so on. More aptly, he uses Vulcan to draw
> several thought-provoking parallels to modern science. Just like with
> Vulcan, physicists spent decades talking about the Higgs boson based on
> the seeming “necessity” of it—the fact that modern theories said these
> bosons must exist, even if no one had ever seen them. The Higgs
> eventually proved real, but what about superstrings or cosmic inflation
> or gravitational waves? We might not be as far removed from the foibles
> of Vulcan-hunters as we think.


And when he delivered a talk detailing his calculations at the Prussian Academy of Sciences on Nov. 18, 1915 in Berlin, his “pen destroyed Vulcan 


 THE HUNT FOR VULCAN:

. . . And How Albert Einstein Destroyed a Planet, Discovered Relativity, and Deciphered the Universe

By Thomas Levenson




How Albert Einstein Destroyed The Planet...Vulcan.



He also almost destroyed the earth:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/Albert_Einstein/Albert_Einstein_The-Man-Who-Built-The-Atomic-Bomb.html

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