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| Subject | Re: COBOL and tricks |
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| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers, comp.os.linux.misc |
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| From | "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> |
| Date | 2022-07-28 23:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <x_6dnV6KBqzUyn7_nZ2dnUU7-b2dnZ2d@earthlink.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 7/28/22 3:13 PM, Peter Flass wrote: > 25B.Z959 <25B.Z959@nada.net> wrote: >> On 7/25/22 7:37 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >>> On 2022-07-24 00:23, Peter Flass wrote: >>>> 25B.Z959 <25B.Z959@nada.net> wrote: >>>>> Sometimes that IS a factor ... you have to have people who >>>>> can write it. But 1990 ... IMHO it should have been 'C'. >>>>> >>>> >>>> IMNSHO, COBOL. C is a terrible language for those types of language. >>> Things >>>> that are so dimple in COBOL, like moving a character string with blank >>>> fill, or formatting numeric output, requires calling subroutines in >>> C, and >>>> lack of length checking on string moves is a recipe for disaster. >>> This is one of the weirder arguments I've ever seen: >>> "requires calling a subroutine in C". As if that somehow is a problem? >>> Not to mention it's a function, and not a subroutine. Any claim of "used >>> the language quite a bit" sounds hollow after that. >>> >>> A statement to move a character string in COBOL will in the end be a >>> subroutine call as well. >>> >>> And lack of length checking depends on the function. Nothing prevents >>> you from using strncpy in C. Or write your own, with whatever >>> characteristic you want. It will actually be pretty efficient. >>> Comparable to the provided functions. >>> >>>> I have used both languages quite a bit, perhaps COBOL more, years >>> ago, but >>>> neither is my preferred language, so I have no dog in this fight. >>>> … >>> Seems like your C is both rusty and bad. >>> >>>>> Mostly I like "terse" languages - less typing and lots >>>>> of room left over for comments at the ends of the lines. >>>> >>>> Sounds like assembler ;-) >>>> >>>> It’s too easy to write tricky code with side-effects in C. COBOL >>> might not >>>> be as self-documenting as advertised, but the operation of each >>> statement >>>> is pretty obvious and easily understood. >>> What kind of side effects are we talking about? The operation of each >>> statement in C is very obvious and easy to understand. >>> Most people get into trouble because of memory handling. Not the >>> language semantics. >>> But that is where you get to the point where things gets even harder to >>> even do in COBOL. And if you manage to do it, it won't be easily >>> understood. >> >> Consider "print x" ... those of us that go back some years >> will acutely recognize how "print x" stands atop a veritable >> Everest of subroutines, device abstractors, drivers for >> display controllers ......... >> >> CPUs don't *have* a "print x". > > I think the 1401 did. It had instructions for “read a card”, “print a > line”, etc. As I said to another ... just sending a binary stream out of a pin is NOT "printing". There's a LOT between that and actual human-readable data display.
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Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-01 18:53 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:41 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-01 15:08 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-01 17:31 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-01 17:05 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:05 -0500
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:05 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-02 11:12 -0500
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:29 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 00:42 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-02 23:47 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:23 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 00:51 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:48 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 19:11 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 01:54 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-26 13:49 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-27 22:48 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-27 21:37 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-28 13:02 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-28 23:40 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-29 15:54 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-31 23:47 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2022-07-29 17:02 -0500
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-28 12:13 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-28 19:49 +0000
Re: ancient I/O, was COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-07-29 18:37 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-28 16:35 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-28 17:52 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-29 00:23 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2022-07-29 09:15 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-29 08:13 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-29 23:57 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-30 08:13 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-30 15:04 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 21:07 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-07-31 12:55 -0500
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-31 19:32 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-07-31 19:13 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-07-31 19:17 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2022-07-31 16:45 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-01 00:38 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 08:09 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-01 11:02 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 12:02 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-01 17:35 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 18:06 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 19:05 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:35 +0100
Re: boot me, COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-01 21:10 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-01 18:53 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-01 12:22 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-01 20:37 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-02 09:39 +0100
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-02 17:05 +0000
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 01:05 -0400
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2022-08-03 11:51 -0500
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 22:11 -0400
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-05 06:52 +0100
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-06 00:30 -0400
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-07 22:36 +0000
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-07 20:27 -0400
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-08 06:09 +0000
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-08-13 14:53 -0400
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-13 19:44 +0000
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2022-08-13 16:51 -0400
Re: backups in real life, COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-14 14:34 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-01 08:19 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-01 14:00 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-01 14:46 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-29 08:09 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-29 00:00 -0400
Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-07-29 18:55 +0000
Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 00:53 -0400
Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks Timothy McCaffrey <timcaffrey420@gmail.com> - 2022-08-04 07:52 -0700
Re: different languages, was COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-04 17:00 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2022-07-29 16:41 -0500
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 01:03 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-07-30 08:16 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 19:50 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-30 14:56 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 20:35 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-31 21:51 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-07-31 21:26 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 02:07 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-02 14:30 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2022-08-02 15:09 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-03 01:07 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2022-08-03 13:41 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 01:31 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-04 06:27 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-04 08:23 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-04 18:05 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 23:35 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-05 16:45 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-05 21:50 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-06 02:21 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 23:29 -0400
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-08-05 03:33 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-08-05 14:05 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-05 16:01 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-05 16:45 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-05 13:13 -0400
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-05 19:14 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2022-08-05 23:20 -0400
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-08-05 21:40 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ibmekon <Ibmekon@google.com> - 2022-08-05 23:35 +0100
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-08-05 17:51 -0500
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ibmekon <Ibmekon@google.com> - 2022-08-06 00:30 +0100
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-08-06 13:32 -0500
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-06 07:06 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-06 06:56 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ibmekon <Ibmekon@google.com> - 2022-08-06 17:39 +0100
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks D.J. <chucktheouch@gmnol.com> - 2022-08-06 13:30 -0500
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2022-08-05 19:12 +0000
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-08-05 21:03 +0100
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-05 21:45 -0400
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-08-13 14:58 -0400
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-06 02:19 +0100
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-05 21:44 -0400
Re: cars and COBOL and tricks J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-08-13 15:03 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-08-06 02:15 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 01:03 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-28 23:43 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-29 15:23 -0700
Re: old firms, was COBOL and tricks John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-07-29 22:58 +0000
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-30 01:04 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-06 00:06 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-08-02 00:32 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-08-02 09:23 -0700
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 00:46 -0400
Re: COBOL and tricks "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2022-08-04 10:34 +0100
Re: COBOL and tricks "25B.Z969" <25B.Z969@noda.net> - 2022-08-04 11:07 -0400
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2022-07-20 11:42 +0100
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-07-20 10:04 -0700
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-20 17:16 +0000
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-25 00:23 -0400
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-25 05:45 +0000
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-26 02:46 -0400
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-26 20:43 +0000
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-07-20 18:43 -0400
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-21 06:01 +0100
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2022-07-21 17:42 +0000
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-07-21 19:52 +0100
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2022-07-20 18:41 -0400
Re: Fwd: Linux on a small memory PC "25B.Z959" <25B.Z959@nada.net> - 2022-07-26 23:19 -0400
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