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Re: Wayland Is Coming

From Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups comp.windows.x
Subject Re: Wayland Is Coming
Date 2024-05-13 08:09 +0000
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On Sun, 12 May 2024 22:09:31 -0000 (UTC)
Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
>In comp.windows.x, Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 May 2024 07:39:00 -0000 (UTC), Muttley wrote:
>>> If a framebuffer is all thats required now then whats the
>>> point of Wayland?
>> In a word? Compositing. We run modern multitasking OSes nowadays, 
>> remember.
>
>I don't use a compositing window manager now, or ever that I can
>remember, but I have been using Linux full time since before Y2K.
>And "multitasking" on Unix much longer.
>
>That's no reason to switch to Wayland.
>
>Wayland being a rewrite that removes a lot of cruft in X11: that would
>be something to emphasize.

Yes, removing some of the no longer used stuff such as the font server
support and simplify the colour system to 24+ only so ditching all the 
colormap and visual support for B&W, 16 and 256 colour graphics cards that
have long since gone for scrap would be a good idea. Also create a new sub
API the equivalent of XRender but make it comprehensible for normal humans
and fold it into the core protocol.

And then they could call it .... X12.

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Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 04:55 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-08 12:03 +0000
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-08 14:01 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:44 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 07:35 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 07:49 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 05:20 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 07:39 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 07:50 +0000
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 08:19 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 21:45 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:34 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 02:23 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-12 08:48 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <please@ask.me.invalid> - 2024-05-12 14:08 -0500
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:42 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:42 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 08:05 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-14 00:49 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-14 07:39 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-17 07:55 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-17 08:48 +0000
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2024-05-12 22:09 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 08:09 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 09:45 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 11:03 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 22:59 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-14 07:37 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-15 05:55 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-15 07:18 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-24 03:40 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-24 08:51 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-08 20:12 +0200
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:41 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-09 06:54 +0200
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 05:18 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 07:36 +0000
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 07:50 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 08:16 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 21:44 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:32 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:56 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-11 08:58 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 00:51 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-12 08:44 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:37 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 08:00 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 09:49 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Julian Bradfield <jcb@inf.ed.ac.uk> - 2024-05-13 10:31 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-14 21:52 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-15 07:14 +0000
                X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-05-15 16:31 +0000
                Re: X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-17 07:56 +0000
                Re: X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-17 08:49 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 11:08 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 22:58 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-14 07:36 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-09 10:30 +0200
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 08:36 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 21:50 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:35 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:57 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-10 00:38 +0000
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 01:05 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:37 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:56 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-11 08:52 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <please@ask.me.invalid> - 2024-05-10 11:11 -0500
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-10 21:32 +0200
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <please@ask.me.invalid> - 2024-05-10 15:56 -0500
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:55 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-11 10:13 +0200
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:54 +0000
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net> - 2024-05-11 02:18 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-11 03:25 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Winston <wbe@UBEBLOCK.psr.com.invalid> - 2024-05-11 00:10 -0400
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-11 05:40 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net> - 2024-05-12 02:32 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <ask.me@nowhere.invalid> - 2024-05-11 09:43 -0500
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-11 14:51 +0000
  Re: Wayland is coming Ivan Shmakov <ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid> - 2024-05-11 10:25 +0000
    Re: Wayland is coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 00:57 +0000
      Re: Wayland is coming Sebastian Wells <sebastian@here.com.invalid> - 2024-05-25 09:47 +0000
        Re: Wayland is coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-25 10:10 +0000
        Re: Wayland is coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-25 22:39 +0000
          Re: Wayland is coming Sebastian Wells <sebastian@here.com.invalid> - 2024-05-26 09:21 +0000
            Re: Wayland is coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-26 20:59 +0000
              Re: Wayland is coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-27 10:16 +0000
            Re: Wayland is coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-27 10:17 +0000

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