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Re: X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming)

From Muttley@dastardlyhq.com
Newsgroups comp.windows.x
Subject Re: X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming)
Date 2024-05-17 08:49 +0000
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On Fri, 17 May 2024 07:56:36 -0000 (UTC)
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Wed, 15 May 2024 16:31:02 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>> Lawrence doesn't seem to understand ~/.Xauthority ...
>> 
>> ssh does though -- if you forward an X connection through ssh,
>> it will manage the necessary .Xauthority entries with xauth(1).
>
>And hopefully it manages to clean that up as well, when you drop the 
>connection.
>
>> This completely invalidates the "X over ssh is insecure" argument.
>
>It does take an awful lot of pieces, working together correctly, to ensure 
>this, doesn’t it?

Have you heard of the Unix way?

>Wayland is somewhat simpler than this.

I'm sure thats what Poettering thought about init scripts when he created 
systemd. Turns out - not so much.

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Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 04:55 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-05-08 12:03 +0000
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-08 14:01 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:44 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 07:35 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 07:49 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 05:20 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 07:39 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 07:50 +0000
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 08:19 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 21:45 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:34 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 02:23 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-12 08:48 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <please@ask.me.invalid> - 2024-05-12 14:08 -0500
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:42 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:42 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 08:05 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-14 00:49 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-14 07:39 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-17 07:55 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-17 08:48 +0000
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2024-05-12 22:09 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 08:09 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 09:45 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 11:03 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 22:59 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-14 07:37 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-15 05:55 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-15 07:18 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-24 03:40 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-24 08:51 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-08 20:12 +0200
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-08 20:41 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-09 06:54 +0200
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          Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 07:36 +0000
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 07:50 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 08:16 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 21:44 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:32 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:56 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-11 08:58 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 00:51 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-12 08:44 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-12 20:37 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 08:00 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 09:49 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Julian Bradfield <jcb@inf.ed.ac.uk> - 2024-05-13 10:31 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-14 21:52 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-15 07:14 +0000
                X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-05-15 16:31 +0000
                Re: X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-17 07:56 +0000
                Re: X over ssh is not insecure (was: Re: Wayland Is Coming) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-17 08:49 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-13 11:08 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-13 22:58 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-14 07:36 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-09 10:30 +0200
            Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-09 08:36 +0000
              Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-09 21:50 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:35 +0000
                Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:57 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-05-10 00:38 +0000
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 01:05 +0000
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-10 08:37 +0000
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:56 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-11 08:52 +0000
  Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <please@ask.me.invalid> - 2024-05-10 11:11 -0500
    Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-10 21:32 +0200
      Re: Wayland Is Coming Zach Metzinger <please@ask.me.invalid> - 2024-05-10 15:56 -0500
        Re: Wayland Is Coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-10 21:55 +0000
          Re: Wayland Is Coming Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> - 2024-05-11 10:13 +0200
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    Re: Wayland Is Coming Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net> - 2024-05-11 02:18 +0000
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        Re: Wayland Is Coming Alastair Hogge <agh@riseup.net> - 2024-05-12 02:32 +0000
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      Re: Wayland is coming Sebastian Wells <sebastian@here.com.invalid> - 2024-05-25 09:47 +0000
        Re: Wayland is coming Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-05-25 10:10 +0000
        Re: Wayland is coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-25 22:39 +0000
          Re: Wayland is coming Sebastian Wells <sebastian@here.com.invalid> - 2024-05-26 09:21 +0000
            Re: Wayland is coming Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-05-26 20:59 +0000
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