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| From | Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.math |
| Subject | Re: how |
| Date | 2024-05-06 19:18 -0400 |
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On 5/6/24 4:20 PM, WM wrote:
> Le 04/05/2024 à 05:18, Richard Damon a écrit :
>> On 5/3/24 9:21 AM, WM wrote:
>
>>> Every findable number has ℵo successors. ==> Not all can be found.
>>> All natural numbers have no successors. ==> There are more.
>>
>> So, what is your actual definition of a "findable" number?
>
> A number that can be put in trichotomy with its neighbours.
So, ALL Natural numbers (except 0) since for a number x a member of the
Natural Numbers (except 0) there will be a number y such that y+1 = x,
and a number z such that x+1 = z
>>
>> How does that definition actually differ IN ITS DEFINITION from the
>> definition of the Natural Numbers?
>
> The set of all natural numbers consists mainly of dark numbers. All
> numbers which can be put in trichotomy belong to a finite set
> ∀n ∈ ℕ_def: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo
Why? They Natural Numbers meet your definition of Findable.
>
> which is followed by an infinite set the numbers of whch cannot be
> distinguished and which can only be manipulated collectively.
but there is no "highest" value to N_def, so you can get to all the
Natural numbers.
>
> |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ...}| = 0
>
> Regards, WM
>
>
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-03 11:58 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-06-03 14:34 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-03 19:50 +0000
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-04 14:10 +0000
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 13:04 -0700
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-01 02:05 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-06-01 15:19 +0000
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Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-29 12:05 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-30 07:58 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-30 12:17 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 19:46 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 19:48 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 19:52 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-01 01:35 +0200
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Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-02 02:52 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-29 17:35 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-30 07:33 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-25 13:23 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-26 19:15 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-26 13:43 -0700
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-26 17:21 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-27 14:03 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-27 13:16 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-27 20:05 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-31 14:00 +0200
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-31 12:28 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-31 12:25 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-01 01:36 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-06-01 01:31 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-22 17:57 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 14:58 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-22 23:16 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-22 23:47 +0200
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-23 13:46 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-23 17:29 -0700
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-23 12:17 +0000
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-22 17:16 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-22 13:11 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-22 13:53 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-22 17:20 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-22 11:48 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-22 10:43 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-14 07:58 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-14 12:47 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-14 21:35 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-14 21:36 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-15 13:25 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-15 16:52 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-16 18:15 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-16 22:53 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-17 14:02 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-14 16:07 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-15 13:30 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-15 16:56 +0200
Re: how Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-05-16 00:44 +0100
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-15 13:30 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-16 18:21 +0000
Re: how Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2024-05-16 14:52 -0400
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-02 19:06 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-03 11:18 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-05-03 07:32 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 15:09 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-04 00:36 +0200
Re: how joes <noreply@example.com> - 2024-05-03 11:48 +0000
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-03 14:01 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-05-03 16:11 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 15:14 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-04 00:33 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 20:13 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 20:15 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-05-03 09:23 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-03 14:10 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-05-03 16:13 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-03 14:16 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-05-03 17:56 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 16:33 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 16:53 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 15:16 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-04 00:32 +0200
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-05-03 18:12 +0200
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-05-03 18:37 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 22:46 +0200
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-05-03 23:36 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 22:52 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-03 16:59 +0000
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 22:28 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 22:31 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 22:38 +0200
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-03 16:17 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 15:18 -0700
Re: how Moebius <invalid@example.invalid> - 2024-05-04 00:29 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-26 14:41 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-26 10:49 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-26 17:02 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-26 09:26 -0400
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-26 17:33 +0200
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-26 13:14 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-23 21:50 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-24 17:06 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-24 19:34 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-24 19:13 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-25 20:17 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-25 22:04 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 20:22 -0700
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-22 18:55 -0400
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-21 18:07 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-22 15:10 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-22 18:04 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-22 18:58 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-23 18:35 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-23 20:47 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-23 19:06 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-23 21:30 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-23 14:24 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-23 14:27 -0700
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-23 23:27 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-05-03 20:30 -0700
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-23 21:52 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-24 17:09 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-24 20:22 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-24 19:13 -0400
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-19 17:44 -0400
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-19 19:32 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-20 16:39 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-20 13:05 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-20 18:31 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-20 14:47 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-22 14:15 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-22 16:31 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-22 19:01 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-23 18:42 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-23 20:54 +0200
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Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-23 19:34 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-23 21:45 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-23 19:51 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-23 22:03 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-24 17:01 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-24 19:40 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-25 19:40 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-25 21:47 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-25 20:27 +0000
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-25 22:40 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-25 22:07 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 19:37 -0700
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-23 22:03 -0400
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-24 06:49 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-24 17:10 +0000
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-24 14:08 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-25 19:51 +0000
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-25 19:03 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-26 14:32 +0000
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-26 13:53 -0400
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-25 22:08 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-26 17:06 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-26 15:10 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-27 14:54 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-27 13:38 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-30 13:00 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-30 18:50 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-05-03 13:23 +0000
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-24 17:12 +0000
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-23 22:01 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-24 17:16 +0000
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-24 19:49 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 13:07 -0700
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-24 22:34 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 13:36 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 13:38 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 13:44 -0700
Re: how FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-24 19:49 -0400
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 17:08 -0700
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-25 02:30 +0200
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-25 02:17 +0200
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-25 02:40 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 17:48 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 17:49 -0700
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-25 03:16 +0200
Re: how Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 19:55 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 12:10 -0700
Re: how Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 13:35 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-26 12:53 -0700
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-25 03:10 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 12:23 -0700
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-26 00:12 +0200
Re: how Moebius <moebius@example.invalid> - 2024-04-26 00:14 +0200
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 19:44 -0700
Re: how Moebius <franz.fritsche@yahoo.de> - 2024-04-30 01:12 +0200
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-25 20:06 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-26 13:01 -0700
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-26 23:48 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-26 18:01 -0400
Re: how Tom Bola <Tom@bolamail.etc> - 2024-04-27 00:10 +0200
Re: how Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-04-24 19:13 -0400
Re: how WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> - 2024-04-25 20:20 +0000
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 15:01 -0700
Re: how "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-04-25 15:07 -0700
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