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Re: back to WILD

From slider <slider@anashram.com>
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda
Subject Re: back to WILD
Date 2019-12-05 22:35 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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> So you could be laying in bed (like a big idiot)
> trying to bring about hypnogogia but there is no
> possibility at that moment.

### - just posted that other reply and this part came ringing back to me  
hehehe :)))

so ok, you're having difficulty (smile) with bringing yourself to the  
place where the hypnagogia appear, you know how to WILD ok but  
'deliberately' getting yourself to the right place where the hypnagogia  
are still eludes you, so you keep looking for some kinda 3rd-party means  
of achieving same?

maybe look at it this way ok?

the relaxing stage is where one 'deliberately' makes oneself feel very  
similar to feeling tired but without actually feeling tired, it's only an  
emulation of falling asleep, one that tricks the body into thinking it's  
bedtime and so awareness begins to shift, a tiny shift you recognise as  
the body beginning to feel a little strange in some manner... get to there  
and that's where the hypnagogia start to then appear...

so ok, now the body feels slightly different in some way (numb, expanded  
or whatever) then that's the right place and you need look no farther...

if the body doesn't feel slightly odd there wont be any hypnagogia!

to start seeing the hypnagogia stare fixedly into the distance + keep your  
eyes perfectly still, and wait... there will likely already be some blobs  
and streaks coming and going and that's the start of it, now you have to  
wait... at some point it changes to something more like images, then  
actual images, but if ya even twitch your eyes it all disappears...

steady practice brings it's own rewards...

there's no alternative that doesn't fuck things up...

forget any shortcuts, just make up your mind, once & for all, that you're  
gonna MAKE this work! be determined! plus tell yourself that you just  
ain't gonna stop now until you one day succeed! thus it's a foregone  
conclusion and as such only a matter of when!

that should do it hehehe ;)

(your mind is just being stubborn, so take no nonsense from it: insist...)

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                Re: set-back sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 14:50 -0800
                Re: set-back slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-19 00:19 +0000
                impeachment?   what is it good for ? sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 18:22 -0800
                Re: impeachment?   what is it good for ? slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-19 04:57 +0000
                Re: impeachment?   what is it good for ? sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-19 06:06 -0800
                Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 04:05 +0000
                Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 15:48 +0000
                Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 16:09 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-25 22:25 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-25 16:34 -0800
                Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-26 02:57 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-26 14:05 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 18:47 +0800
                Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely! :) twistedfate <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-11-19 08:57 -0800
                Re: Tada! :) thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2019-11-25 09:19 +0800
                Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-13 16:24 +0000
                Re: Tada! :) twistedfate <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-11-13 10:09 -0800
                Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-11-13 18:31 +0000
                Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-14 00:25 +0000
                Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-14 08:28 +0000

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