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Re: it was just imagination

From slider <slider@anashram.com>
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda
Subject Re: it was just imagination
Date 2019-12-05 21:56 +0000
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> we'll call it AP Juice.   because it slightly moves
> the AP.   I bet this stuff does do that.  It's kind
> of a safe & sane way of doing  shrooms.   I guess
> down the road this company will try to do some things with
> peyote and other such items.
>
> Roll over Charlie Arana.  You just a little ahead of
> your time ole nagually.
>
> so 50 years ago it was "everybody must get stoned"
> now it's everyone has to move their assemblage point a little.
> Even if, even if, we don't know wtf the AP is ?
> Is it real?   or was it just someone's imagination. ?

### - no way to know that unless you could actually see it in action  
innit, so it's just a pretty model; the real mystery being where he got  
such a cool idea/model from?

have always personally known that awareness can change/shift though, it  
had happened through illness before a few times but had never put it  
together and just thought/accepted that i was ill, being sick makes ya  
feel weird and even makes things look weird, after taking acid, however,  
there was no denying that awareness could be different on occasion,  
whatever made awareness change via acid was similar (if not the same) as  
being ill only more so... after that acid (and tried it 7 times in all) my  
awareness used to sometimes change fairly drastically under weed, not all  
weed, just some of it consistently did it more than usual and those were  
pretty bracing + scary experiences... later learned that unplanned changes  
to routine could have a very similar effect; smoke a little normal weed so  
only slightly stoned, and then do something quite ordinary that ya  
wouldn't normally do quite that way, and wallop, you could find yourself  
in another world haha... i used to call them excursions because it would  
only last a while and then wear off :)

the problem is, we generally only even notice the really extreme stuff?  
acid, for example, hits you over the head like a hammer and drastically  
alters your awareness, one can't help but notice it it's so much, but far  
subtler changes also occur that are just as useful, one could even go as  
far as to say/suggest that even the slightest change in awareness is  
actually huge provided you notice the change and then act on it in some  
way...

e.g., in starting to fall asleep (or even just feeling 'tired') awareness  
has shifted ever so slightly, enough, for example, to start doin' some  
really crazy shit like wandering around in alternate realities via what  
people currently call WILDing heh... and that ever so slight natural shift  
in awareness makes it possible, so there's really no need for gross things  
like acid or even micro-doses of other things 'coz we can do everything  
acid does 'without' the acid just by noticing ever so slight changes in  
awareness and then acting on them to maximise the effect ;)

why bother doin' all that?

because the alternative is to do nada and just live like a slave all our  
life, end of story...

conclusion: there's obviously a lot more to us than we're generally aware  
of by default :)

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                Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2020-02-04 21:36 +0000
                this bitch takes the cake luckyrat <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2020-02-04 20:44 -0800
                Re: this bitch takes the cake slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2020-02-05 15:15 +0000
                Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2020-02-05 16:15 +0000
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                Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2020-02-16 14:02 +0000
                set-back slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-18 22:47 +0000
                Re: set-back sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 14:50 -0800
                Re: set-back slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-19 00:19 +0000
                impeachment?   what is it good for ? sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 18:22 -0800
                Re: impeachment?   what is it good for ? slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-19 04:57 +0000
                Re: impeachment?   what is it good for ? sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-19 06:06 -0800
                Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 04:05 +0000
                Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 15:48 +0000
                Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 16:09 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-25 22:25 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-25 16:34 -0800
                Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-26 02:57 +0000
                Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-26 14:05 +0000
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                Re: Tada! :) thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2019-11-25 09:19 +0800
                Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-13 16:24 +0000
                Re: Tada! :) twistedfate <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-11-13 10:09 -0800
                Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-11-13 18:31 +0000
                Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-14 00:25 +0000
                Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-14 08:28 +0000

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