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Re: run out of air

From slider <slider@atashram.com>
Newsgroups alt.dreams.castaneda
Subject Re: run out of air
Date 2019-11-26 04:25 +0000
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
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> relaxing enough to hit some hypnogogia is certainly
> the trick.   Even if a dreamer does not see any
> he still has a good chance of falling asleep in
> total silence.   This is the way to a lucid dream.
> You are going to fall asleep at some point.

### - those hypnagogia are 'how' we all go to sleep every time whether we  
remember them or not, it's just that we've relegated having anything to do  
with them right into the background along with our memories of our  
ordinary dreams, a veil of forgetfulness that's lowered over those dream  
memories which we've extended to including that of the entry-process  
itself (it's pretty obvious why really; i.e. if we were aware of the  
process itself we'd also realise that we had some choice in the matter, so  
much easier then to just cloud that bit over too and then everyone can act  
like an asshole and never feel guilty lol)

iow: we've given up having any 'choice' in the matter? the choice to fall  
asleep having then effectively become our default mode; we don't even  
question it anymore! (no one frees-willy anymore?)

our problem facing such things being that we're not used to making  
choices? we instead rely/depend on a bunch of choice-choices (heh) to do  
everything for us, thus we can then effectively 'sleep' our way through  
life, living in our thoughts while everything's being routinely taken care  
of for us...

no wonder then we gets into sooo much trouble in planet wallyworld eh? ;)




> i woke up last night and started to go back to sleep
> and was hit with dreaming images of very ordinary scenery
> along a road with houses.   I was wide awake folks.   I
> tried to focus and concentrate but the images passed.
> Oh well,  at least they do and can show up.  more seratonin
> boss,  pump that stuff up and memory will be high.
> so your video is good,  it's just what people need to encourage
> them to give it a try and to keep trying.   Sooner or later
> they will break through.   If Dumbo can fly we can dream too.

### - when "hit with those dreaming images" that was your perfect  
opportunity to WILD, you certainly were wide awake but remained passive  
(which is one of the available options)

remain passive (iow: do nada but watch) and eventually falling asleep is a  
given: 'coz that's what happens! something the whole human race has  
apparently somehow learned to capitalise on to the point that all their  
eggs are now firmly only in that basket alone! so much so they now  
think/believe that that's all there is and exists!

you have 2 choices when faced with the hypnagogia: either remain passive &  
just enjoy the show; the longer you can maintain it the more glorious the  
show becomes until sleep eventually claims us...

or, 'actively' seek any details IN those images and thus trigger a WILD.

a slight variation of that, being to watch a similar scene such as you  
describe, and to then somehow go half-way into it (like just sticking your  
head in heh) and pulling it back out again... something that happened when  
i described sitting back & resting my eyes onetime; there was a clear  
scene right in front of me, an incredible life-like one, which was  
watching for a bit before starting to experiment with it, put my head etc,  
looked up and down, pulled it back out, cool, did that a few times until  
realising what am doing, and then stepped boldly into it: full WILD! (even  
went to the end of this tree-lined road to find out the name of it, it was  
so real-seeming)

iow: 'seeing' those hypnagogia is no longer your problem pal (laffing) you  
know now how to see 'em alright 'and' what they look like when ya see's  
'em; your problem now is what to 'do' with them that triggers a WILD!

you already know the first option of remaining passive no problemo, that's  
a piece of piss to accomplish haha: ya don't have to do nada, and which is  
precisely what we usually do with them in order to fall asleep... so it's  
your task now to not only see those images (in any form btw, even a single  
image) but to also experiment with what it then takes to trigger a WILD  
via them :)

and that's really simple too: ya simply attempt to examine their finer  
details, and that's it, this ain't like rocket science maan... (grinz)

wont work the first time unless you gets lucky punk hehe, maybe not even  
the 2nd or 3rd time, but soon (and for the rest of your life heh) you'll  
hit the right note and then you'll know 'exactly' what (and how) triggers  
a WILD!

if you get another scene like that and can't seem to focus or whatever,  
then maybe also try the second method of moving towards it and sticking  
your head into it and looking around (worked totally accidentally for moi  
so that must be possible too...)

examining their finer details being the more direct route though + the  
accompanying sensation of being pulled/zoomed-in is actually very  
pleasant...

but, however ya gots there, there's no denying now that you're at the  
second stage old chap! (cool) so the next video in the series should  
complete your education in that respect:

Hypnagogia - The 'Key' To WILDS!

:)

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