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| From | slider <slider@atashram.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.dreams.castaneda |
| Subject | Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely! :) |
| Date | 2019-12-20 16:24 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <op.0c3ujph8g6gbmk@slider> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <op.0cx6dftf7eafsp@slider> <op.0czkf9c87eafsp@slider> <d5ee8e18-7add-4391-8340-203ce85a664b@googlegroups.com> <op.0c3fv5cb7eafsp@slider> <3fcffa6f-a741-4a83-834f-d04933ba481d@googlegroups.com> |
> that was a great review, that dude is talking from
> good, clean experience. The only thing that amazes
> me now is why we DON'T have a lucid or wake induced
> dream every night. How is it possible to not have awareness in
> every dream henceforth?
### - exactly! so maybe there was a time when WILDing was the norm? (a
species of shamans that maybe knew exactly what they were doing?)
and then we gots all 'civil-ised' or summat and can't do shit ever since?
haha ;)
and yet it's all still there just under the surface if one cares to
scratch it!
imagine kids learning it and comparing notes in the schoolyard instead of
bashing each other up? (smile, well one can always live in hope anyway
huh) plus what they'd then be like when they grew up being aware of being
part of a vastly bigger + far more interesting world?
smile, i got to this exact same point/spot re: how come we haven't 'all'
been doing this all our lives already??
plus why do we have ordinary random/useless dreams every night when we can
so easily WILD throughout instead?? we have choice! so where did our
'choice' go??
turns out, it's simply & solely because no one ever told us we can do it!?
we were told to get to sleep instead?
no fucker knew! (or if they did they kept it all to themselves and
considered themselves better-off/special or whatever, duh...)
plus, the more you WILD the easier it gets (i mean really easy!) + the
more it then makes you wonder how we didn't know about this before, and
then, with hindsight, you can start to see all the incidences where you
deliberately blanked/ignored-it, and/or dismissed it as being something
else that you weren't interested in because it had no place in our daily
routines! no place whatsoever! feelin' weird/different in any way disturbs
us!
hey are you ok? - oh sorry, i was nearly drifting-off there wasn't i,
silly me, i think i was just having a strange dream there? yes well stop
daydreaming you idiot 'coz we've got other far more important things to do
right now! save your dreaming for bedtime! (kinda thing...)
no one fuckin' told us?? DUH!
plus what ELSE aren't we being told??? (lol)
so what's next? goddamn flyin' saucers or summat?? (fuck off lol)
what comes 'next' is a very overdue: expansion of awareness!
and THEN we'll understand things in a completely different manner!
a bigger/wider way, one that includes more of the rest of nature & the
universe instead of only our own shitty little backyards all the time heh
;)
my record is still only 7-days WILDing on the trot but never 8 (at least
not so far) as something always happens that changes/stops it from
becoming routine, have even stopped trying anymore and am more content to
just go with da-flow, the result being a topsy-turvey sleep pattern with
hardly any routine to it whatsoever lol, ya WILD, ya remain awake for a
long while feelin' excellent, and then suddenly you tire and you know you
have to rest (it can be resisted if you need to stay awake for longer) but
a couple of hours WILDing tops me right up and then am glowin' again for
several more hours on full-charge haha (that's what it feels like
anyway... hence all my theories re that's what it's really all about
instead of the pigs-ear we've ultimately made of it all, i was tryin' to
figure it out?)
heh, i'll borrow/pinch that line from john fowles book 'The magus' and
from which they made the movie 'The Game', in which he says to the 'new'
guy: "i envy you your journey" (i.e., because you can only be sooo
surprised just the once at the things you subsequently discover haha)
meaning? if you're now asking questions like 'that' then i know exactly
where you're coming from 'and' how ya gots there! ('coz i came by exactly
the same route!)
lol, so if am anything to go by you's gonna be scratchin' your head for
ages? (i know i was haha)
and because all the answers you seek are right there and will indeed
flabbergast you :)
what is it they say? "that from you step upon a path you then begin to see
it everywhere"?
damn right! smile...
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Re: set-back sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 14:50 -0800
Re: set-back slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-19 00:19 +0000
impeachment? what is it good for ? sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-18 18:22 -0800
Re: impeachment? what is it good for ? slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-19 04:57 +0000
Re: impeachment? what is it good for ? sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-19 06:06 -0800
Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 04:05 +0000
Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 15:48 +0000
Re: set-back slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-19 16:09 +0000
Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-25 22:25 +0000
Re: set-back - sorted! sparkygriswold <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-12-25 16:34 -0800
Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-12-26 02:57 +0000
Re: set-back - sorted! slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-12-26 14:05 +0000
Re: set-back - sorted! thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2019-12-28 18:47 +0800
Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely! :) twistedfate <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-11-19 08:57 -0800
Re: Tada! :) thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> - 2019-11-25 09:19 +0800
Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-13 16:24 +0000
Re: Tada! :) twistedfate <allreadydun@gmail.com> - 2019-11-13 10:09 -0800
Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@atashram.com> - 2019-11-13 18:31 +0000
Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-14 00:25 +0000
Re: Tada! :) slider <slider@anashram.com> - 2019-11-14 08:28 +0000
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