Re: OT: US administration "yes people"

From	Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid>
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Subject	Re: OT: US administration "yes people"
Date	2026-03-23 07:03 +0000
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Le 23/03/2026 à 06:39, Lawrence D’Oliveiro a écrit :
> On Mon, 23 Mar 2026 06:25:22 +0000, Hibou wrote:
>> Le 22/03/2026 à 21:59, Lawrence D’Oliveiro a écrit :
>>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2026 07:45:06 +0000, Hibou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If this is right, then there's plenty of money. All we need to do is
>>>> spend it properly. We do not need migrant workers to fill the gap.
>>>
>>> What if it’s not?
>>
>> Now you're just being silly.
> 
> Says the one with the inability to learn from history.
> 
> Look at your own dates: that study you quoted from comes from before
> the time of Reaganomics and Thatchernomics and all their imitators
> elsewhere around the world.
> 
> What were they all about? Getting rid of Government waste was a key
> part of their agenda.
> 
> So now you’re trying to say that that Government waste is still around
> and just as bad as though Reagan and Thatcher and the others had never
> been? Or that they somehow missed such a big target?
> 
> No, it’s just not credible.

No?

Point one is that it wasn't a study; it was practice; Chapman actually 
made his region much more efficient.

The key lesson he learned was that efficiency cannot be imposed from 
above; one must do as he did, and work bottom up¹.

As for history, Thatcher et al.… - did privatisation, for example, 
really make things more efficient from the taxpayers' point of view? Is 
it cheaper to bail out failing train and water companies than to have 
British Rail and public water boards?

Is HS2 going well? Does the Government succeed with its IT projects?…

There is every reason to suppose that government remains inefficient, 
and that 30% waste is natural (like, say, Parkinson's Law). The only way 
to confirm this or refute it is to try Chapman's methods again. Further 
discussion in Usenet is just a waste of - well, not breath, but you know 
what I mean.

¹Which reminds me of the BBC programme 'Back to the Floor', in which 
senior executives worked incognito in bottom-level departments. They 
found out a lot about their operation that they could not learn otherwise.

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Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-17 22:45 +0100
  Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-17 21:36 -0400
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-18 03:20 +0100
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-18 14:16 +1100
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-18 03:23 +0000
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-18 09:37 +0000
      Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-18 05:49 -0400
        Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-18 12:24 +0100
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-18 13:05 +0100
  Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-18 12:37 +1100
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-18 02:27 +0000
  Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-18 03:22 +0000
    Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-17 20:43 -0700
      Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-18 18:23 +0000
        Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-18 18:27 +0000
          Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-18 23:16 +0000
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-18 16:26 -0700
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-18 23:43 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-19 05:40 +0000
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 11:48 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-19 08:26 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 17:51 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-19 19:25 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 20:33 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-19 14:16 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-20 19:27 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 22:32 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-19 19:20 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-19 14:19 -0700
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-18 23:34 -0400
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-19 05:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 12:14 +0000
        Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-18 16:15 -0700
          Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-19 01:17 -0400
      Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 11:48 +0100
        Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-19 11:34 +0000
          Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-19 12:24 +0000
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 14:24 +0100
          Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 13:39 +0100
          Third World etc Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-03-20 06:15 +0200
        Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 13:17 +0000
          Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-19 14:45 +0000
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-19 17:45 +0000
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-19 22:32 +0100
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 11:58 +0100
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 12:45 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-20 17:08 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:35 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:42 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-21 08:57 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 10:40 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-21 13:42 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 12:47 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-21 14:00 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 14:55 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-21 17:04 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-21 17:21 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-22 21:26 +0100
                OT: Voting rights abroad (was: Re: OT: US administration "yes people") Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 00:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:42 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-24 09:13 +1100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 01:51 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:31 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-25 13:13 +1100
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                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-25 08:50 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 10:20 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 11:33 +0000
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                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 15:06 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-26 10:04 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 10:19 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 11:26 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-25 22:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 00:00 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 20:08 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:15 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:14 +0100
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                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 13:48 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-25 13:45 -0700
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 22:08 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 10:14 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 21:44 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 23:12 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 23:41 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 00:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:18 +0000
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                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 13:00 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 13:29 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 13:37 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 14:36 +0100
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:15 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 20:52 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-25 18:01 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 23:58 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-26 16:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-25 13:43 -0700
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 17:57 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 23:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 23:25 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 04:14 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 10:16 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 14:01 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-26 08:45 -0700
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:20 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:21 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 20:53 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-26 13:43 +1300
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 22:03 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 00:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-26 20:30 +1100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 17:43 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-25 18:37 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 21:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 18:04 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-25 19:01 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-26 18:59 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:29 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 21:52 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:10 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:07 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 17:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 00:01 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-21 14:04 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-21 21:23 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-22 06:42 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 06:49 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-22 07:45 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 21:59 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 00:46 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-23 06:25 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-23 06:39 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-23 07:03 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:13 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-23 13:39 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 20:06 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-23 17:25 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 01:55 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 00:09 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-24 02:05 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 03:14 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 18:55 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-24 21:28 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 23:45 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:33 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-25 08:54 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 00:10 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 18:58 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 23:36 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:41 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 00:04 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:53 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-24 01:36 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 03:12 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 08:28 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 07:04 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:40 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 08:51 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-24 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 22:57 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:37 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-25 23:47 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:40 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 20:37 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 01:34 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:27 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:24 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-27 02:43 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-27 13:16 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 21:58 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 21:17 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 22:28 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-27 10:37 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-27 13:20 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:59 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-27 20:40 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 10:43 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-28 14:22 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 13:30 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 14:17 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-03-24 15:15 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 15:15 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-24 08:41 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 00:18 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-03-24 06:12 -0500
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 08:43 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 14:45 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 15:07 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 23:19 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-24 11:50 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 16:00 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-22 06:58 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 03:55 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 15:47 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 01:53 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 19:26 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 01:05 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-22 08:27 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 04:38 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 10:14 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 07:18 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 22:02 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-22 22:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 23:24 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-23 01:34 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 10:30 +1100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 02:31 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-23 14:04 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 02:16 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-23 08:29 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 01:02 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 11:25 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 08:30 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 23:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 19:38 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:03 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-22 17:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 18:08 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-03-22 15:26 -0500
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 00:29 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 00:20 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 09:55 +1100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 02:13 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 19:30 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 15:10 +1100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 20:02 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-23 12:12 +0100
                Re: OT: degrowth The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:24 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:56 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 12:44 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 16:16 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 16:28 +0000
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-20 15:51 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:45 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:46 +0000
        Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 11:53 +0100

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