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Re: OT: Voting rights abroad

From Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english
Subject Re: OT: Voting rights abroad
Date 2026-03-23 11:48 +0000
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On 2026-03-23, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> On 2026-03-23 01:02, Nuno Silva wrote:
>> On 2026-03-22, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2026-03-21 18:04, Hibou wrote:
>>>> Le 21/03/2026 à 14:00, athel.cb@gmail.com a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us not forget that the British citizens most affected by
>>>>> Brexit, that is
>>>>> to say ones who didn't live in the UK, were denied the vote. That
>>>>> was probably
>>>>> illegal, but I don't know if it was ever taken to court.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It was taken to the High Court, the Court of Appeal, and the Supreme
>>>> Court, and it was the courts that ruled it… out of court:
>>>>
>>>> 'Expats lose Supreme Court bid for EU referendum vote' -
>>>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36370522> :
>>>> "The UK's highest court upheld the decisions of both the High Court
>>>> and Court of Appeal. / UK citizens are not eligible to vote on 23
>>>> June if they have lived outside the UK for more than 15 years."
>>>>
>>>> 'British expats lose legal battle for right to vote in EU referendum' -
>>>> <https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/british-expats-lose-
>>>> legal-battle-right-to-vote-eu-referendum> :
>>>> "'Electoral registration officers currently retain records of
>>>> previous electoral registers for a period of 15 years. They have no
>>>> straightforward means of checking the previous residence status of
>>>> British citizens who have been resident overseas for longer than 15
>>>> years.'"
>>>
>>> AFAIK, Spanish citizens living abroad can vote, as long as they hold a
>>> Spanish passport.
>>
>> Portugal is also not bad on that department, except that in some
>> elections you can't vote by post (voting in person is great if you're
>> close to a consulate, not so great if you're hundreds of kilometres
>> away), and that in legislative elections "Europe" and "Rest of World,
>> and Macau" elect just two seats each, which really isn't much
>> proportional to the number of registered voters... (as for
>> *representation*, these voters are represented by all 230 deputies, as
>> are all other voters, de jure)
>
> In Spain you can always vote by email. But after some modification of
> the regulation many expats were effectively excluded from voting. I
> think that has been corrected.
>
> I don't know about referendums, though, as we had so few that I do not
> remember them. The constitution (1978), the NATO (1986), the EU
> constitution (2005). I had to ask chatgpt about them. Ah, yes, it says
> that expats did vote (depends on the country where they live, too).

Portugal has had different legislation: legislative elections were by
mail, presidential in-person. And then other elections varied depending
on which of the two applied.

Changes have already been made to improve legislative elections (now you
can opt between in-person and by mail), I think presidential election
law still needs to be updated. IIRC Europarl votes, for those registered
for that specifically (as in the EU one has a choice of voting by the
country of citizenship or the country of residence), happen on top of
presidential election law.

There were also some advances allowing people to vote in different
locations at least in elections that have nation-wide ballots, but that
still has to be improved/extended.

Overall, a quite strong flaw of the current voting law is that there's
no attempt to promote easier voting by allowing advance vote on
weekdays, there has been an improvement allowing more voters to vote in
advance, and to choose a different location, but that's also on a
Sunday, and just that.

Sundays can be convenient to vote (and does sound a more sensible choice
than a banking day), what I object is the lack of an attempt to cover
other weekdays.

On one hand, IIRC those registered to vote abroad can't even enjoy this
advance vote, OTOH at least abroad, where timezones allow, in-person
voting can be done on the Saturday before.


Also:

Regarding mail vote, there's usually a recurring confusion, where
different parties have tried to promote different verification rules in
vote counting. This reached increased proportions in 2022 as the
right-wing big-tent party (PPD/PSD) apparently agreed, in preparatory
meetings, to regard the presence of a copy of the ID document as
optional, and later reversed their understanding, leading to votes being
admitted that they then objected to. Because this check has,
understandably, to happen separately from ballot counting, once this
happened there was no way to separate votes with such a copy from those
without. They tried to invalidate the results from the vote counting
assemblies that had followed the agreed-on optionality.

This led to the obvious result that, for a change, a complaint regarding
vote counting was about something which provably affected the result of
an electoral district, meaning the constitutional court had to order the
repetition of the election in that district.

(One could possibly construe that this might have been an attempt from
that party to avoid an opposition party getting one of the two seats in
that electoral district - if true, they got a good self-rull-pulling out
of it, as they dutifully gained *zero* seats in that district in the
rerun.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-03-20 12:45 +0100
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-20 17:08 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:35 +0100
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:42 +0100
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-21 08:57 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 10:40 +0000
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                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 12:47 +0000
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                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-21 14:55 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-21 17:04 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-21 17:21 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-22 21:26 +0100
                OT: Voting rights abroad (was: Re: OT: US administration "yes people") Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 00:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:42 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-24 09:13 +1100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 01:51 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:31 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-25 13:13 +1100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 00:04 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-25 17:04 +1100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 09:28 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:23 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-25 08:50 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad athel.cb@gmail.com <user12588@newsgrouper.org.invalid> - 2026-03-25 10:20 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 11:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-03-25 12:15 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 15:06 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-26 10:04 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 10:19 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 11:26 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-25 22:12 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 00:00 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 20:08 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:15 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:14 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-25 12:37 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 13:48 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-25 13:45 -0700
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 22:08 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 10:14 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 21:44 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 23:12 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 23:41 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 00:17 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:18 +0000
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                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 13:00 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 13:29 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 13:37 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 14:36 +0100
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:15 +0000
                Re: OT: Wind energy sucks big time rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 20:52 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-25 18:01 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 23:58 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-26 16:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-25 13:43 -0700
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 17:57 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 23:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 23:25 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 04:14 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 10:16 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 14:01 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-26 08:45 -0700
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:20 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:21 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 20:53 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2026-03-26 13:43 +1300
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 03:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 22:03 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 00:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-26 20:30 +1100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 17:43 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-25 18:37 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-25 21:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2026-03-25 18:04 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-25 19:01 -0400
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 07:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2026-03-26 18:59 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:29 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 21:52 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:10 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 13:07 +0100
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 17:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Voting rights abroad Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 00:01 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-21 14:04 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-21 21:23 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-22 06:42 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 06:49 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-22 07:45 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 21:59 +0000
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                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-23 06:25 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-23 06:39 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-23 07:03 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:13 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-23 13:39 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 20:06 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-23 17:25 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 01:55 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 00:09 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-24 02:05 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 03:14 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 18:55 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-24 21:28 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 23:45 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:33 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-03-25 08:54 +0000
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                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 23:36 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:41 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 00:04 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:53 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-24 01:36 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 03:12 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 08:28 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 07:04 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-24 13:40 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 08:51 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-24 14:34 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 22:57 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-25 06:37 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-25 23:47 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:40 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-25 20:37 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-26 01:34 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-26 06:27 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 18:16 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-26 19:24 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-03-27 02:43 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-27 13:16 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 21:58 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-26 21:17 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 22:28 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-27 10:37 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-27 13:20 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-27 12:59 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-27 20:40 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 10:43 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-28 14:22 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-28 13:30 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-26 14:17 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-03-24 15:15 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 15:15 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-24 08:41 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 00:18 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-03-24 06:12 -0500
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 08:43 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 14:45 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 15:07 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-24 23:19 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2026-03-24 11:50 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-24 16:00 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-24 18:50 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2026-03-22 06:58 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 03:55 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 15:47 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 01:53 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 19:26 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 01:05 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-22 08:27 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 04:38 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 10:14 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 07:18 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 22:02 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-22 22:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-22 23:24 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-23 01:34 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 10:30 +1100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 02:31 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-23 14:04 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 02:16 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2026-03-23 08:29 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 01:02 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 11:25 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-22 08:30 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 23:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 19:38 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:03 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-22 17:48 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-22 18:08 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <rinaldij@alien.free> - 2026-03-22 15:26 -0500
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 00:29 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-03-23 00:20 -0400
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 09:55 +1100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 02:13 +0000
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-03-22 19:30 -0700
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2026-03-23 15:10 +1100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-03-23 20:02 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-23 12:12 +0100
                Re: OT: degrowth The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:24 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 11:56 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 12:44 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 16:16 +0000
                Re: OT: degrowth The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-23 16:28 +0000
            Re: OT: US administration "yes people" snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2026-03-20 15:51 +0000
              Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:45 +0100
                Re: OT: US administration "yes people" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-20 18:46 +0000
      Re: OT: US administration "yes people" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-20 11:53 +0100

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