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Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]
Date 2025-09-29 02:08 +0000
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2025 13:45:29 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

> 	Many of our long haul vehicles have sleeper spaces behind the
> controlling part of the cab as we call call the enclosed spaces on the
> tractors that haul the immense trailers across the nation whether from
> East to West or South to North.
> A lot of this stuff formerly moved by rail but with the Interstate
> highways built at the instigation of Eisenhower to prospectively move
> troops and military equipments the companies profiting by such movement
> of goods moved to trucks.  When I was a kid the Railway Express was
> widely accessible but since then track that went all over the
> countryside to small towns with crops to be moved have been torn up.
> 
> 	The remaining railways are poorly maintained as far as I know 
except
> perhaps on passenger routes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermodal_freight_transport

Intermodal has become increasingly common. It probably started with 
maritime transport. My brother-in-law was a merchant marine officer and 
most of his career was on container ships. That drastically cuts down on 
the loading/unloading time. Once the goods are in a container, they might 
as well stay in it, assuming one consignee. Usually trucks are involved at 
the endpoints, sort of the final mile thing.

Piggybacks are also common, particularly for the large carriers. The 
company I worked for didn't do piggybacks but furniture was one of the 
profitable goods. Local drivers would pick up furniture at the factories 
in the southeast and bring it to the terminal in Oxford Mississippi where 
it was loaded into conventional boxcars. Those would eventually wind up in 
Helena MT, Kent WA, or one of the other terminals, be unloaded, and 
delivered locally.

A lot depends on the time sensitivity and the availability of a rail 
terminal in the area. 

Railroads aren't obsolete, trust me. We have a few surface level crossings 
and I've spent many minutes watching lumber, coal, cars, chemicals, and 
who knows what else going by  if I got caught.

Passenger service is iffy outside of the eastern corridor. This town has 
two former stations and no passenger service. Amtrak runs on the former 
Northern Pacific line so I'd have to drive over 100 miles to get a train 
to Seattle.  When I was working in Ft. Wayne I could take Amtrak to 
Chicago. It was seedier than the east coast service but it did work. 

I've seen whatever passenger train goes through Lompoc out by the beach 
but I don't know how feasible it is. 

I won't go into CAHSR. That's your problem.

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Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 16:01 -0700
  Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 05:27 +0000
    Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 23:35 -0700
      Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:22 +0000
        Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 13:16 -0700
          Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:31 +0000
            Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 21:38 -0700
            Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-28 14:38 +0200
              Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-28 18:44 +0000
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 15:00 +0200
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-29 07:37 -0700
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-29 18:03 +0000
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 22:12 +0200
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 02:00 +0000
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-29 21:04 -0700
                Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:28 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-30 11:16 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 20:53 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 20:45 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 20:40 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-30 20:32 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-01 04:12 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 10:08 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-01 12:46 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 14:41 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 19:35 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:47 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 20:08 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 11:19 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:26 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-02 22:15 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-02 16:45 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:22 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 10:52 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 20:12 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-01 18:32 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:31 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-03 17:03 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-04 07:58 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-04 17:27 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-04 18:51 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-03 17:02 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-03 10:29 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-03 16:59 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-03 16:56 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-01 18:16 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 11:39 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-01 22:05 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 04:29 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-02 13:51 +0200
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-02 12:52 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:42 +0100
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-03 17:13 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:53 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 09:14 -0700
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:24 +0000
                Re: Eatable plants [Was: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water]] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-01 11:43 -0700
              Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-28 13:45 -0700
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-29 02:08 +0000
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-28 21:47 -0700
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-29 07:06 +0000
                Re: Lorries [Was: Desalinated water] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-29 15:01 +0200

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