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Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios
Date 2025-08-22 19:42 +0000
Message-ID <mgrvhuF5phpU8@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (22 earlier) <mgjtljFpqp1U4@mid.individual.net> <108428t$7mtq$4@dont-email.me> <dEidnf4fUL-ODzj1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <slrn10af8nj.2brgf.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <oirlnlxdlv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>

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On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 11:58:16 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I can not imagine how I could change the "radio" on my car if I wanted
> to do so, that I don't, but I'm curious. The "radio" has a display and
> it also does things like configure several options for the car system,
> or connect to my smartphone and display the navigation data. I don't
> think this kind of thing is standard anymore.

The 'radio' in my 2018 Toyota also show fuel economy and other stuff. The 
volume and mode can be controlled for rocker switches on the steering 
wheel. There are also switches for phone stuff on the other side of the 
wheel that I wandered into by mistake. Never used the phone as a phone in 
the car and have no idea how it works. I have used the phone with jango 
through Bluetooth for music. It's also a convenient way to determine phone 
coverage -- when the music stops playing there isn't any.

The 2007 Toyota did not have a radio. I was happy to find it had speakers 
and a harness anyway so adding the aftermarket radio was easy. I doubt you 
could buy a new car without a 'infotainment' device. Some of the car 
reviews spend more time on that than handling and performance.

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