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Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Date 2025-08-21 19:04 +0000
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 00:51:38 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>   Owned a later-model Falcon for awhile ... 200 engine.
>    Very good car, and there was enough space under the bonnet to
>    basically climb in to do maint.

I've always preferred straight sixes. I've covered the bases, the 216 in a 
'51 Chevy, and a 240 ci in '80 that was the end of the line. I had the 170 
in the Falcon, and my '86 F-150 has a 300 ci. Then there was the 225 slant 
6 in a '60 Plymouth and a 62 Dodge pickup. They were all workhorses and 
easy to work on.

>    Mustang people don't want to ADMIT they were just Falcons with a
>    sexier bod bolted on

I finally got around to a Mustang in '73, which was the last year before 
the Mustang II POS.  Poor weight distribution and a big engine made it 
great for burnouts, not so great for winter driving. No fun to work on 
either.

>    1960s to mid 70s ... standard "station wagons" were in almost every
>    driveway. Not as much room as today's SUVs, but Good Enough - and
>    lower-profile. Some had very big engines too. Neighbor had one with a
>    440 + 4-barrel. It'd MOVE (and the fuel gauge moved almost as
>    quickly).

A guy I knew that did a lot of hiking had a wagon, '62 Olds I think. It 
was his camper. My uncle had a radio/tv business when the repairmen still 
made house calls. He had a woody, then a newer wagon but I don't know the 
year. It was handy for carry tools, components, and for hauling a TV back 
to the shop if it couldn't be fixed in the field.

>    A place I worked had a heavy flatbed truck with a straight-8 ... dual
>    water pumps as I recall ... and ran on six volts. NON-sync
>    transmission -
>    you had to shift it JUST RIGHT or the lever would snap back hard
>    enough to crack a bone.

I had a '49 Chrysler New Yorker with a straight eight. That was a beast. 
Great road car but my wife's vocabulary got a little rough when she had to 
parallel park -- on power steering. 

Most of the big trucks are straight sizes. Do it right and a straight six 
has perfect balance, unlike a V-6. I only had one V-6. It was okay but due 
to a design weakness the rear main seal tended to rotate. When everything 
was lined up right, or wrong I guess, it would throw oil on the exhaust 
manifold. I got tired of people telling me my car was on fire. Then it 
would rotate a little more and all was good.  

 
>    Seems like every trick and variation has been tried over the past
>    century. Now if somebody has a Citroen 2cv with a big Jap V-twin
>    cycle engine spliced in I might be interested in buying

My V-strom is a V twin. No complaints. The engine is a slightly more 
civilized version of the SV650 crotch rocket.  The Sportster is a V-twin 
of course. No comparison between OHV FI and a push rod engine with a carb. 
Horses, courses.

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