Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: High Fidelity (or maybe not?) - Car Radios
Date	2025-08-22 19:46 +0000
Message-ID	<mgrvo9F5phpU9@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References	(22 earlier) <108428t$7mtq$4@dont-email.me> <dEidnf4fUL-ODzj1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <slrn10af8nj.2brgf.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> <oirlnlxdlv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <slrn10agt4d.2kprm.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

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On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 13:45:49 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

> On 2025-08-22 00:51, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>> The new stuff locks you in to the original manufacturer, but pre-2005
>>> or so, the radio is a separate unit that can be easily
>>> replaced/upgraded. I think the aftermarket radios are even still on
>>> the store shelves.
> 
> On 2025-08-22, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> I can not imagine how I could change the "radio" on my car if I wanted
>> to do so, that I don't, but I'm curious. The "radio" has a display and
>> it also does things like configure several options for the car system,
>> or connect to my smartphone and display the navigation data. I don't
>> think this kind of thing is standard anymore.
> 
> As I said ... what model year is your car? When the "radio" became a
> computer, aftermarket upgrades went out the window(s)!

My 2007 Toyota Yaris did not come with a radio. The 2011 had a radio but 
it was just a radio. The 2018 has the full monte. That's the end of the 
road; Toyota dropped the Yaris at least in the US. Even in 2018 the sedans 
were really Mazda 2s; only the hatchback was a Toyota.

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