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Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE

Subject Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
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From c186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date 2025-08-21 00:51 -0400
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On 8/20/25 3:24 PM, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 05:15:04 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>    Kinda LOOKING for a mid 60s restored car.
>>     Doesn't have to be anything spectacular.
>>     A Falcon maybe.
>>
>>     An old (deceased) bud of mine had a '64 Mercury ... straight-6, NO
>>     BS. It was a Really Good Car.
> 
> I had a '62 Falcon Futura with a 170 ci straight six. White with a black
> vinyl roof it looked like a shrunken T-Bird so I referred to it as the
> Thunder Chicken. It was a great winter car; I think it had some Jeep DNA.
> 
> https://falconclub.com/falcons-pages/the-ford-falcon/1962-ford-falcon/
> 1962-falcon-futura/
> 
> A couple of years later the Falcons morphed into the Mustang and it was
> also the basis for the Ranchero for a while. A lot of people associate
> 'cowboy Cadillac' with the El Camino but Ford got there first with the
> full sized Ranchero in the late '50s. Then it shrunk in the Falcon based
> years and got bigger again.
> 
> I think today cowboy Cadillac is used for luxury mega-pickups than the
> sedan based versions of that era.

   Owned a later-model Falcon for awhile ... 200 engine.
   Very good car, and there was enough space under the
   bonnet to basically climb in to do maint.

   Mustang people don't want to ADMIT they were just
   Falcons with a sexier bod bolted on  :-)

   El Camino ... still coveted. Musk made a rather
   bad, weird, copy of the concept.

   1960s to mid 70s ... standard "station wagons" were
   in almost every driveway. Not as much room as today's
   SUVs, but Good Enough - and lower-profile. Some had
   very big engines too. Neighbor had one with a 440 +
   4-barrel. It'd MOVE (and the fuel gauge moved almost
   as quickly).

   The not-too-big iron straight sixes were very good
   for small/mid-sized passenger cars. Just strong
   enough, simple to work on. I suppose the V-6
   makes more sense though.

   A place I worked had a heavy flatbed truck with
   a straight-8 ... dual water pumps as I recall ...
   and ran on six volts. NON-sync transmission -
   you had to shift it JUST RIGHT or the lever
   would snap back hard enough to crack a bone.

   Clue, you don't HOLD the shift lever, you put
   your palm FLAT on it ... clutch, shift-out,
   release, clutch, shift in, release, and keep
   the rpms just right :-) Used to put 5 tons
   on that truck ..... drum brakes ... you got
   one good push .........

   A trick ... many would sub an 8-volt battery
   (you COULD buy them) ... which made starting
   easier. It was possible to trick the regulator
   into dealing with 8v. Still can buy 8v batteries,
   though they're mostly for golf carts now.

   I think the old Packard 12-cyls were actually
   a pair of 6's bolted together. Must have been
   fun to tune/adjust !

   Seems like every trick and variation has been
   tried over the past century. Now if somebody
   has a Citroen 2cv with a big Jap V-twin
   cycle engine spliced in I might be interested
   in buying  :-)

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