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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: The Apollo moon landings |
| Date | 2025-07-22 08:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <me8pa3F7sp4U8@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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Am Montag000021, 21.07.2025 um 14:44 schrieb Jim Pennino:
> In sci.physics Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote:
>> Am Samstag000019, 19.07.2025 um 10:01 schrieb Hibou:
>>> Le 19/07/2025 à 01:00, Bertitaylor a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> As lies to make money as do physicists, professors, politicians,
>>>> plutocrats, pimps, presstitutes and prostitutes. [...]
>>>
>>> That's just content-free insults and abuse. It's what contributors to
>>> Usenet resort to when they have no evidence. It makes their case look
>>> limp and false.
>>>
>>> It's a dog barking at the caravan as it passes. Woof.
>>>
>>> If you want to convince, then I suggest you review your rhetoric - or,
>>> better still, align your position with the evidence.
>>>
>>> 'Third-party evidence for Apollo Moon landings' -
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-
>>> party_evidence_for_Apollo_Moon_landings>
>>>
>>> 'How do we know that we went to the Moon?' -
>>> <https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-
>>> moon>
>>>
>>
>> Actually I assume, that people went to the Moon.
>>
>>
>> The question was NOT 'if' but 'how'.
>>
>> I assume, that the Nazis had already so called 'Haunebus', which were
>> incorrectly named 'Ufos'.
>>
>> Those could actually fly to the Moon and most likely did.
>>
>> The problem:
>>
>> the Haunebus were powered by a 'Hans-Kohler-Generator', which belongs
>> into a class called 'free-energy-devices'.
>>
>> This knowledge had to suppressed at all costs.
>>
>> That's why the entire thing was filmed with cheap props in a studio and
>> somewhere in the desert.
>>
>> You can actually see this in certain pictures.
>>
>> E.g. there exists a photo of the crew of Apollo 17 (afaik), where the
>> astronauts pose without helmet (but with their lunar 'dune-buggy').
>>
>> Also suspicious is the sandy landscape on the Moon, because to create
>> sand you usually need water.
>>
>> I actually calculated the amount of fuel needed to land the 'Eagle' and
>> restart to orbit.
>>
>> The fuel would be imho enough to bring the lander to a halt upon the
>> Moon, but not enough for a restart.
>>
>> (and so forth)
>> ...
>>
>>
>> TH
>
> Thomas Heger's post is a textbook case of conspiracy theorist rhetoric
> wrapped in pseudoscientific claims and speculative historical revisionism.
> Here's a breakdown and analysis of its components:
> 1. Framing the Issue ("The question was NOT 'if' but 'how'")
>
> Technique: Shifts the debate away from evidence-based discussion
> ("did it happen?") to speculation about alternate explanations
> ("how did it happen?").
>
> Purpose: This rhetorical move is typical in conspiracy circles—it
> presumes the conclusion and then retrofits an explanation to fit it.
>
> 2. Nazi Haunebu and UFO Technology
>
> "I assume, that the Nazis had already so called 'Haunebus', which
> were incorrectly named 'Ufos'."
>
> Claim: Nazis developed advanced anti-gravity spacecraft called "Haunebus."
>
> Analysis: The Haunebu myth originates from post-war conspiracy
> literature and fictional Nazi UFO lore. No credible historical or
> technical evidence supports the existence of such crafts. These claims
> are heavily reliant on fabricated documents and hoaxes.
>
> Red Flag: Use of "assume" as a foundation for a sweeping historical
> technological claim.
>
> 3. Free Energy and Suppression
>
> "Hans-Kohler-Generator" ... "free-energy-devices" ... "had to be
> suppressed at all costs."
>
> Claim: A secret Nazi energy device capable of powering lunar travel
> exists and was hidden to maintain control over energy resources.
>
> Analysis: "Free energy" devices violate fundamental laws of
> thermodynamics (especially the First and Second Laws). No such device
> has ever been demonstrated to work under scientific scrutiny.
>
> Conspiracy Marker: Claims of suppression of "dangerous knowledge" are
> a hallmark of pseudoscience—usually used to preemptively dismiss the
> absence of supporting evidence.
>
> 4. Studio Filming Accusation
>
> "filmed with cheap props in a studio and somewhere in the desert."
>
> Claim: The Moon landings were faked using sets.
>
> Analysis: This repeats a well-debunked trope dating back to Bill
> Kaysing and popularized by works like Capricorn One or Room 237.
> There is overwhelming physical, photographic, telemetry, and eyewitness
> evidence of Apollo missions’ success.
>
> Error: Misrepresents the technical sophistication of Apollo footage
> and fails to account for the extensive third-party tracking of Apollo
> flights (e.g., by Jodrell Bank, the Soviets, etc.).
>
> 5. Misinterpretation of Photos
>
> "photo of the crew of Apollo 17... pose without helmet..."
>
> Likely Misunderstanding: This refers to photos taken on Earth during
> training or PR events. No authenticated lunar surface photos exist
> showing astronauts helmetless.
>
> Technique: Classic example of misattribution of context—taking
> terrestrial photos and presenting them as lunar evidence.
>
> 6. Pseudoscientific Critique of Lunar Soil
>
> "sandy landscape on the Moon, because to create sand you usually
> need water."
>
> Claim: The Moon can't have sand without water.
>
> Analysis: Lunar "regolith" is not terrestrial sand. It is formed by
> micrometeorite impacts over billions of years, not by weathering via
> water. This is basic planetary science.
>
> Error: Demonstrates a lack of understanding of geophysical processes.
>
> 7. Calculations of Fuel Capacity
>
> "I actually calculated the amount of fuel..."
>
> Claim: The lander didn’t have enough fuel to return to orbit.
>
> Analysis: This is a common claim from those misunderstanding or
> oversimplifying rocket mechanics. The Apollo Lunar Module ascent
> stage was explicitly designed with sufficient Δv (change in velocity)
> to reach lunar orbit. NASA’s calculations have been confirmed repeatedly.
>
> Red Flag: No data or math shown. Appeals to authority via “I
> calculated...” without evidence.
>
> Overall Characteristics of the Post
> Feature Example
> Assumptive Language "I assume...", "most likely..."
> Pseudoscientific "free energy devices", "fuel not enough..."
> Myth Repackaging Haunebu UFOs, studio faking
> Selective Evidence Misused Apollo 17 photo, regolith skepticism
> Conspiracy Appeal Suppression of truth, hidden technologies
> Lack of Citations No sources, no data, vague references
> Conclusion
>
> Thomas Heger's post is a blend of science fiction, conspiracy narrative,
> and superficial skepticism, posing as a reasoned critique of the Apollo
> program. It reflects a pattern where personal belief and historical
> fantasy override physical evidence and scientific understanding.
>
> If evaluated in terms of epistemic reliability, the post scores extremely
> low—it relies on unverified assertions, misinterpretations of science,
> and discredited historical myths.
>
Actually I had tried to figure out the amount of fuel, which the 'Eagle'
would need to land on the surface of the Moon.
This fuel was necessary, because the Moon has (almost) no atmosphere and
therefore a craft landing there needed reverted thrust, to bring the
craft to a halt in respect to the Moon's surface.
This would require fuel and the amount could be calculated.
To do this I used the theory of Tsiolkowski.
It was a little tricky, because the usual case for a rocket launch
didn't fit here.
But finally I have found a result and found, that the 'Eagle' had enough
fuel on board to land. But it had only enough fuel to land and non for
restart and to accelerate the capsule back to the orbit.
The restart manouver itself was certainly difficult, because it could
not be assited by any kind of ground control or external navigation
system, because there were none.
Since the capsule had only one engine, it would also be extremely
difficult to keep that craft upright, since that would require to
maintain the center of mass exactly above the engine's nozzle.
That would be extremely difficult, bause the astronouts were living
beings and could eventually move.
They also brought stones with them, which also had mass and therefore
needed to be distributed with extreme care.
Any tiny error would make the capsule tip over to the side and that
would have been fatal.
The next collosal problem would have been to make the 'rendezvous' with
the command module in Moon's orbit.
That was so insanely difficult, that I cannot believe it would have been
possible at all (supposed they had enough fuel, what they hadn't).
So, in effect, I agreed with many sceptics and thought, the pictures
were fake and fabricated in a studio.
But I assumed, that only the pictures were a fake and that had to do
with secrecy of military developments (-> hidden military technology).
The Nasa guys had actually been to the Moon, but not with those cheep props.
TH
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 01:49 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-07-16 06:17 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 07:41 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-10 13:30 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 14:56 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-10 22:03 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-11 14:03 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-11 23:04 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-11 17:13 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-12 03:09 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-11 20:39 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-11 03:27 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-10 20:52 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:10 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 18:20 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 01:52 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-12 21:11 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-13 07:04 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 14:26 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-13 05:52 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jeremiah Jones <jj@j.j> - 2025-07-19 13:48 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-12 13:44 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-13 02:54 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-12 20:47 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-13 15:09 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-13 13:34 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-13 12:21 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-13 22:41 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-14 00:18 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-17 06:27 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-21 19:00 -0400
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 00:00 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-07-19 09:01 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 08:45 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-07-19 12:00 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-19 14:20 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 06:51 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 12:27 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-20 13:39 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 13:27 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 07:09 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-20 22:34 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 22:11 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:10 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 12:42 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-21 09:16 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-21 07:33 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-22 08:09 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-21 05:44 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-22 08:30 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-22 06:41 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 10:41 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-22 08:39 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-22 20:45 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-14 05:45 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings David Canzi <dmcanzi@uwaterloo.ca> - 2025-06-22 18:01 -0400
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-22 23:34 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-22 17:23 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2025-06-24 06:10 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-24 06:22 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-25 02:00 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-24 19:29 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-25 06:49 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-25 12:27 -0500
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-02 22:07 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-25 11:42 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-06-27 05:55 +0000
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 08:00 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-15 20:48 +0200
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Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-15 15:53 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 14:50 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-06-23 10:44 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-06-23 10:47 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 05:06 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 14:40 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-16 15:23 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-17 21:43 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 06:22 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:32 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 15:35 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:40 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 15:43 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 13:46 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 16:11 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-18 14:14 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-07-18 16:20 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-16 15:01 +0200
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Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-07-05 10:21 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings John Armstrong <jja@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2025-07-06 08:51 +0100
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-12 05:26 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings occam <occam@nowhere.nix> - 2025-07-14 13:08 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-14 11:20 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-15 12:06 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 12:57 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertitaylor) - 2025-07-16 13:21 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 06:52 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-17 00:18 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-16 18:19 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-17 14:00 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-19 23:01 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 00:06 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-19 18:08 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 12:36 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 07:17 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings Python <jp@python.invalid> - 2025-07-20 19:37 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) - 2025-07-20 22:49 +0000
Re: The Apollo moon landings Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-07-20 18:15 -0700
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 13:38 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2025-07-21 20:58 +0200
Re: The Apollo moon landings Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2026-01-18 09:06 +0100
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Re: The Apollo moon landings nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2026-02-16 09:28 +0100
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